12 years on cpap and it's time to move on.

[ems]

I am beginning to like the roles played by Corky and debtheveg.

Roles?

Perhaps they are one in the same...

Perhaps they are... perhaps not. Interesting to see how this plays out. It will all come out in the wash.

[deltadave]

I am beginning to like the roles played by Corky and debtheveg.

Roles?

Perhaps they are one in the same...

Perhaps they are... perhaps not. Interesting to see how this plays out. It will all come out in the wash.

Once again, we shall turn to "The Most Interesting Man in the World" to seek advice:

[debtheveg]

Determined to have the last word, aren't you! Well, I shan't be posting again until Corky gives an update or there is something intelligent written.

[Lizistired]

And that's what should happen.
This thread should fall off the page until something relevant is posted.
If you are not interested, don't post to it.
Where is my "Report Bickering" button?

[Goofproof]

Determined to have the last word, aren't you! Well, I shan't be posting again until Corky gives an update or there is something intelligent written.

Both, or will either do. Looks like the thread died, as long as there's no info on Corky's previous treatment and other info. Jim

[deltadave]

Determined to have the last word, aren't you!

Moi?

[deltadave]

Determined to have the last word, aren't you!

Moi?

[deltadave]

This thread should fall off the page until something relevant is posted.

OK, I got one for you...

A search of the other site presently under discussion (not that one-- the "Second" one) for "hypoglossal nerve stimuation" yields 3 results, while a search for "scoring" yields 3568 results.

[deltadave]

Can you spell this one out a little bit more for me? I think I get where you're going with this, but I'm not entirely sure I'm following along. Fascinating thread though.

Hey, this is that thread!!

In a very small, but interesting study in Laryngoscope 112 February 2002, response to HGNS was measured in 14 subjects. The first 3 are females:

While it may be tempting to conclude that females exhibit a more favorable response to HGNS than men, of additional interest are the non-responders.

However, it was noted:

Optimal placement of the stimulating electrode is essential to achieve anterior tongue displacement because stimulation of immediately adjacent muscles, including the hyoglossus and styloglossus muscles, can produce retrusion of the tongue into the hypopharyngeal airway. Three of our subjects demonstrated modest decreases in the hypopharyngeal airway during stimulation. These findings may represent displacement of the electrode during the study into the mylohyoid or geniohyoid muscle, which lie superficial to the genioglossus muscle, using our percutaneous approach (see Fig. 1). Electrical stimulation of the mylohyoid, which forms the floor of the oral cavity, could elevate and posteriorly displace the tongue. While the geniohyoid muscle exerts an anterior vector of force on the hyoid bone and caudal tongue base,in a few subjects we have noted posterior tilting of the epiglottis during stimulation. Thus, displacement of the electrode into either of these muscles could have resulted in reduction of the hypopharyngeal airway measurement.

[deltadave]

BTW, the recent Apnex study by Eastwood had exclusion criteria. Among other things:

• >5% central or mixed apneic events combined as a proportion of total apnea and hypopnea events
• Untreated or incompletely treated sleep disorders other than OSA

This certainly suggests that insomniacs will not qualify.

[chunkyfrog]

This just in:
Corky was a lab rat; and after the experiment, he met the fate many test animals do.
Brave little corky.
He will be remembered.

[Goofproof]

At least the Snakes were well fed. Jim

[deltadave]

This just in:
Corky was a lab rat; and after the experiment, he met the fate many test animals do.
Brave little corky.
He will be remembered.

Fortunately, there was a photograph taken when the the HGNS device was "powered up":

[NightMonkey]

This just in: Corky was a lab rat; and after the experiment, he met the fate many test animals do.
Brave little corky.
He will be remembered.

Careful. I understand Corky's agent also supplies high school biology labs.

[Starlette]

ChunkyFrog & DeltaDave,

*chuckling* You're bad. Very, very bad!
Karma may not be on your side.

*whispers in their ears* However, I do believe you're both right, hehe