Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by sol » Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:01 pm

idamtnboy wrote:Several here have commented that yes, it does make some noise, and a bit more noise when you exhale, but none of us has found it to be intolerable.
As customers we should expect what ResMed promote the S9 as the quietest machine on the market. If several people commented about the noise than it is not so quiet as promised.

S9’s enhanced Easy-Breathe motor eliminates noise, creating a quiet and peaceful environment for you and your bed partner.
http://www.resmed.com/us/products/s9_se ... nc=dealers

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by sol » Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:21 pm

idamtnboy wrote:Happiness is determined by attitude, not situation.
Tell that to the homeless who lost their jobs and have no money to feed their families let alone buy Xmas presents.

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by idamtnboy » Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:39 pm

sol wrote:
idamtnboy wrote:Happiness is determined by attitude, not situation.
Tell that to the homeless who lost their jobs and have no money to feed their families let alone buy Xmas presents.
I'll concede that is a tough one. But there are poor people who are quite happy, and rich people who are unhappy. I'm thinking of happiness in terms of being at peace with oneself more so than being joyful.

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by idamtnboy » Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:46 pm

SMenasco, I'm not sure what the best search terms would be to use, but see if you can find some threads about hiding or enclosing the CPAP. In the past some users have mentioned putting it into a dresser or night stand drawer. One guy even built a nice looking purpose-specific night stand type enclosure for his CPAP. Some of these were as much or more to keep them away from cats during the daytime than to muffle the noise, but they would work for that. Others just wanted to hide them from view during the daytime. But some sort of enclosure may well be your best solution.

I really don't think you're going to find any kind of way to quiet the machine itself.

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by RocketGirl » Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:57 pm

SMenasco wrote:I think you're being overly obtuse, overly ignorant, overly obnoxious, overly arrogant, overly stupid, and a real smart ass. I am searching for suggestions and was hoping for intelligent feedback...
I won't quote the rest of that post, it was unnecessarily nasty.

Having read this thread a couple of times now, it genuinely isn't clear that you are hoping for intelligent feedback - really, it sounds like you are just venting about a situation that frustrates you, and that's perfectly ok (although striking out at the people trying to offer suggestions is not perfectly ok even if you're as frustrated as all get out). But if you really do want ideas or feedback, could you perhaps get a bit more specific about the kind of sound, and where it seems to be coming from? There is no way to tell from the info you've posted what ideas might be on target or off. Here's what would be helpful -

1) You've described the sound different times as a honking, a bleep, and a popping. Those are very different sounds. Can you perhaps get more specific about what it sounds like?

2) You've described the sound as possibly coming from the mask, the hose, or the machine, and it seems that you've settled on it being the machine itself. What have you tried that has led you to that conclusion?

3) You've described the sound as occurring on exhale, but you also said that it wakes you three times a night or so. Does that mean that the sound doesn't happen on each and every exhale, but instead happens just once in a while?

4) If you have genuine certainty (from testing your settings) that the sound is coming from the design of the machine, and you've already figured out a workaround with the pillow, then what sort of help are you looking for at this point? (That's not a snarky question, it's a real one - do you want suggestions on enclosures, or sound baffling, or white noise generators, or something else entirely?)

If you could give this kind of information, it might be possible to put together enough of a picture of what's going on for someone to actually be able to help you.
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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by idamtnboy » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:02 pm

sol wrote:
idamtnboy wrote:Several here have commented that yes, it does make some noise, and a bit more noise when you exhale, but none of us has found it to be intolerable.
As customers we should expect what ResMed promote the S9 as the quietest machine on the market. If several people commented about the noise than it is not so quiet as promised.
The problem is all us have different expectations, and tolerance levels. For example, I have a night light in the bathroom that shines enough light that I can see my way out of bed. A friend of mine said his wife will not even tolerate the little green indicator light on the smoke detector on the ceiling. It has to be taped over. The problem is not the lights. It's what we each are willing to live with.

Now, if 30%, or 20%, or maybe even 5% of users complained about the noise level of the S9 then Resmed would have a problem on their hands. It's probably not practical from a manufacturing cost standpoint to make the S9 perfectly silent, as desirable as that would be. A Cadillac is lot quieter than a Chevy Cobalt, but then there's the price difference.

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by Lizistired » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:17 pm

All this time I thought I had tinnitus... it must be my S9!

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by sol » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:40 pm

idamtnboy wrote:
sol wrote:
idamtnboy wrote:Several here have commented that yes, it does make some noise, and a bit more noise when you exhale, but none of us has found it to be intolerable.
As customers we should expect what ResMed promote the S9 as the quietest machine on the market. If several people commented about the noise than it is not so quiet as promised.
The problem is all us have different expectations, and tolerance levels. For example, I have a night light in the bathroom that shines enough light that I can see my way out of bed. A friend of mine said his wife will not even tolerate the little green indicator light on the smoke detector on the ceiling. It has to be taped over. The problem is not the lights. It's what we each are willing to live with.

Now, if 30%, or 20%, or maybe even 5% of users complained about the noise level of the S9 then Resmed would have a problem on their hands. It's probably not practical from a manufacturing cost standpoint to make the S9 perfectly silent, as desirable as that would be. A Cadillac is lot quieter than a Chevy Cobalt, but then there's the price difference.
Some people complain while others don,t, like when people asked by the waiter how was the meal in the restaurant some would say very nice thank you even the food was bad and the service lousy but they don,t come back anymore to the same restaurant.

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by idamtnboy » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:53 pm

sol wrote:Some people complain while others don,t, like when people asked by the waiter how was the meal in the restaurant some would say very nice thank you even the food was bad and the service lousy but they don,t come back anymore to the same restaurant.
Very true. I've heard it's something on the order 10 to 1 of those who are unhappy compared to the ones who actually complain. And then there are people like my younger brother and wife who sent a steak back because it was cooked a little more than what they wanted. The rest of us in the group just kind of rolled our eyes and wondered if it really was worth the hassle to send it back. They are known for complaining anytime food is cooked outside their narrow tolerance limits. I have to wonder if their eating experiences wouldn't be more enjoyable if they weren't quite so demanding.

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by SMenasco » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:09 pm

RocketGirl, I probably shouldn'i even respond to your attempt to take up for idamtnboy by attacking me. i don't think you are interested in helping at all. However, I will state again that the machine does not make the noise continuously. It begins after about 30 minutes of operation. I turn it off and the noise stops for a while. I have never said it came from the mask or hose. You seem to be a person that enjoys lecturing others. At this stage of my life, i am not easily impressed and don't take lecturing or direction well at all. Please go back and read my answer to idamtnboy and place your name at the top.

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by RocketGirl » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:13 pm

You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch.

But I will take you at your word, and forgive you for being so nasty, and I promise never to try to help you again.

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by Randyp1234 » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:14 pm

Man......This thread has turned nasty.

Merry Christmas everyone.

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by SMenasco » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:41 pm

Rocketgirl, I'm sorry for the way I responded to you. After merely trying to explain what I consider to be an operational situation, hoping someone else might be experiencing a similar circumstance, I felt I was unfairly attacked by isamtnboy, then I felt you piled on for some reason. I have been posting to find out why the machine is doing what it's doing. I have tried to explain exactly what it sounds like, more of an elongated bleep at the end of the exhalation phase. It also wakes my wife up, even on her side of the bed, so it is not a figment of my imagination. She told me it sounded like a goose honking from afar. In any event, I try very hard not to lash out unless I am attacked or ridiculed, and in this case, I feel I have been the victim of both. However, my response to both of you was not proper. Again, I apologize for my Type A rudeness.

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by idamtnboy » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:36 pm

SMenasco wrote:However, my response to both of you was not proper. Again, I apologize for my Type A rudeness.
Apology accepted. I know you are frustrated and upset and that can lead one to say and do things he/she later wishes hadn't been. Because of that I did not, and do not, take offense at what you wrote.

Now, at the risk of upsetting you a bit more, would you please summarize all the salient points about the noise problem, and what changes resulted with each attempt to get rid of it. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but I don't recall you mentioning the 30 minute time span previously. That makes it intriguing. A chronological summary would be best. I used to tell a foster son when he was working on math and physics homework and getting frustrated that, "You have to do it one step at a time!" We need to go through your entire noise scenario one step at a time to see if we can get a handle on the cause and effect relationships involved.

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Re: Continuing Saga of Honking S9 Autoset

Post by SMenasco » Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:21 pm

I made a mistake. I offered a sincere apology. However, after your last post, the apology to you is rescinded. You're not deserving. You're the cause of this whole rift. After attacking me, you talk to me like a child and want me to "chronologically" lay out the situation? I'm not the least bit interested in explaining a damn thing to an intellectual wannabe like you. Take your condescending behavior and go foist it on someone stupid enough to buy the bunk you try to pedal. Your account with me has insufficient funds. Santa is mad at you!