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Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by jmartinson » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:00 pm

Has anyone experienced a problem with a surgery or medical procedure being cancelled because they would not allow a C-PAP to be used? They said it was because it was a sterile room, so it couldn't be brought in.

I'm sure that this must have happened to someone else, but what was the solution? My friend had to lie perfectly flat, his throat closed, his blood pressure shot up and he felt like was suffocating, so the procedure was cancelled. It was very upsetting.

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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by Perrybucsdad » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:04 pm

Find another hospital to deal with. I work for a hospital and this sounds like something they didn't think about very well.

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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by NightMonkey » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:20 pm

jmartinson wrote:Has anyone experienced a problem with a surgery or medical procedure being cancelled because they would not allow a C-PAP to be used? They said it was because it was a sterile room, so it couldn't be brought in.

I'm sure that this must have happened to someone else, but what was the solution? My friend had to lie perfectly flat, his throat closed, his blood pressure shot up and he felt like was suffocating, so the procedure was cancelled. It was very upsetting.
I only know one person who had an angiogram of his heart. He said he was awake through the entire procedure. Generally CPAP is not needed while awake. Is your friend morbidly obese?
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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by Perrybucsdad » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:31 pm

NightMonkey wrote: I only know one person who had an angiogram of his heart. He said he was awake through the entire procedure. Generally CPAP is not needed while awake. Is your friend morbidly obese?
Yes, you are awake normally, but you are lightly sedated. Some people's airway's can be compromised with sedation. I know when I had my catheterization (pre CPAP) I would zone in and out of that almost asleep phase. I could see where someone might have an apnea event during this time.

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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by BlackSpinner » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:47 pm

jmartinson wrote:Has anyone experienced a problem with a surgery or medical procedure being cancelled because they would not allow a C-PAP to be used? They said it was because it was a sterile room, so it couldn't be brought in.

I'm sure that this must have happened to someone else, but what was the solution? My friend had to lie perfectly flat, his throat closed, his blood pressure shot up and he felt like was suffocating, so the procedure was cancelled. It was very upsetting.
Hospitals have versions of cpap machine on site and they should have had one of theirs available for him.

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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by imsleepynomore » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:48 pm

I was awake during my angiogram also remember you are being monitored, I just had an endoscopic exam and was sedated for this during this procedure you are monitored by an anstheolgist I have severe sleep and had no problem without cpap

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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by apneawho » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:50 pm

If they use conscious sedation for your cath, they will have continuous pulse oximetry and O2 on you. I don't think there is much need for cpap during the procedure. If you have any respiratory difficulty they will know immediately and will make adjustments or abort the procedure. I have never heard of anyone having cpap during a procedure like that.

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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by LSAT » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:22 pm

Normally an anesthesiologist is monitoring during the procedure. You need the CPAP in recovery...not in the OR.

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Post by Slinky » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:32 am

jmartinson wrote:... My friend had to lie perfectly flat, his throat closed, his blood pressure shot up and he felt like was suffocating, so the procedure was cancelled. It was very upsetting.
The underlining is mine. Obviously they didn't feel that he was a good candidate for the procedure given his BP and quite possibly a "panic attack". I would imagine that they would reschedule the procedure w/appropriate "medication" and perhaps an airway device of one kind or another.

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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by DoriC » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:00 pm

Cpaps are not needed for surgeries or procedures as much more sophisicated equipment is used and monitored by Anesth. and other staff. When my husband had surgery recently I was allowed into the Recovery Room and there was his cpap that we brought with us set up beside him but he wasn't masked up because he was fully awake and alert with an RN sitting at bedside.

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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by Breathe Jimbo » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:52 am

I had an angiogram years ago. I was awake and never came close to falling asleep. CPAP is not necessary during this kind of procedure. The sedation is very mild. They don't want someone getting antsy, moving around excessively (or, God forbid, trying to climb off the table), and turning the catheter into a cheese cutter between the groin and the heart. Your friend's angiogram was certainly called off because of other "issues."

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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by VVV » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:46 am

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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by Slinky » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:10 am

What is "radial" access? I understand femoral access but not "radial". Would that be thru the wrist artery? The left wrist or the right wrist? I'm thinking that's something my pulmonary/critical care doctor once mentioned a long tme ago. But I think it came up in a discussion of pulmonary hypertension. So who remembers it was so long ago?

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Post by imsleepynomore » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:22 am

Radial is through either wrist depends on strength of pulse if done recovery time is much faster you will wear a wrist pressure cuff for the next day or I can't remember how long but that is the way my doc went great as I didn't have to lay flat so long as when femerol is done

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Re: Angiogram cancelled because C-Pap couldn't be used

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:27 am

I wonder what happened to jmartinson's friend.
It's been nearly a week.

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