devilbiss DV54D-HHX (travel) vs DV54D-HH (with 12v)

[peterg]

just trying to sort out the different models.
at
http://www.devilbisshealthcare.com/prod ... autoadjust
Devilbiss don't list a HHX model, just a HHS which comes with smart card and link module

at
https://1800cpap.com/checkout.aspx
there is a HHX model - few details given - called a travel machine.

at
http://www.thecpapshop.com/devilbiss-in ... -smartflex
there is the HH model, which does allow for 12v DC input directly, so that travels well I would think and could be called a travel machine.

so for the price difference, assuming HHX means HHS, does it also come with the software. I can email the vendors, but I'd just like to clarify the model differences. (why do they make these things confusing).

as a sidenote, reading the manual, the Intellipap will, when connected to 12v and mains, use the mains. if the mains goes out, it switches to the battery (backup). thats nice. noting that the heater doesnt operate through the 12v in the unit. (doesn't concern me) - here's an idea, run a small 12v water pump into a jacket that passes water around your body, then to the humidifier, that will keep the water warm. - I'm thinking of you poor cold northern americans and canadians. I'm more worried about the upcoming hot Australian summer and how a face mask will feel, might need a fan on all night.

[physicsbob]

A much easier and cheaper method of tucking the hose next to your body under the covers. I have gone tent camping in the high desert where the temp dropped down to about 3C- 37 F and slept just fine all night long, by this method.

[jmcanzo]

as a sidenote, reading the manual, the Intellipap will, when connected to 12v and mains, use the mains. if the mains goes out, it switches to the battery (backup). thats nice. noting that the heater doesnt operate through the 12v in the unit. (doesn't concern me)

I have found that is not quite true. If I have the 12v and 110v hooked up, It seems to use the 12v. My jumpstart battery will go into charge mode. It seems that if both are hooked up it uses the 12v for the cpap and the 110v for the humidifier

[Emilia]

Clarification on models.... see this page from Janknitz's blog: http://maskarrayed.wordpress.com/

DeVilbiss has software (SmartLink) which will give you detailed, efficacy data from the AutoAdjust or the Standard PLUS Cpap. The regular standard machine doesn't get detailed info. All machines can use the web based Smart Codes which are generated by the machine, entered into a web based tool and then info is generated. The Smart Codes will give you a 'big picture' result without details.

[peterg]

as a sidenote, reading the manual, the Intellipap will, when connected to 12v and mains, use the mains. if the mains goes out, it switches to the battery (backup). thats nice. noting that the heater doesnt operate through the 12v in the unit. (doesn't concern me)

I have found that is not quite true. If I have the 12v and 110v hooked up, It seems to use the 12v. My jumpstart battery will go into charge mode. It seems that if both are hooked up it uses the 12v for the cpap and the 110v for the humidifier

so the jumpstart is always recharging, sounds like no good for battery life in the longer run.
it seems that their logic is backwards.
as a solution I would need to have my backup battery system disable itself until the mains power goes out. this will require further thought

[peterg]

Clarification on models.... see this page from Janknitz's blog: http://maskarrayed.wordpress.com/

DeVilbiss has software (SmartLink) which will give you detailed, efficacy data from the AutoAdjust or the Standard PLUS Cpap. The regular standard machine doesn't get detailed info. All machines can use the web based Smart Codes which are generated by the machine, entered into a web based tool and then info is generated. The Smart Codes will give you a 'big picture' result without details.

thanks but that doesnt clarify much for my particular enquiry , as all 54D's are auto and would give detailed results. I'm trying to see what the difference is between 54D-hh , hx and hs, which ar all auto machines.

I am emailing the vendor to see if the HHX includes software with the card reader, assuming HHX is HHS and as per the DB page and includes the card reader . why they would need a special card reader for a standard SD card is beyond me. maybe I have to travel to the USA and talk to a DME. hehe

this page spells out the data capacities of the DB models using smartlink.

http://www.devilbisshealthcare.com/prod ... /smartlink

if the vendor includes the software with the smart card reader then it is good value IMO.. that is, after I stop compaining about having to spend $150 for software on top of the price of the unit itself.

[Emilia]

I doubt you'll hear from the company, but we have a DeVilbiss company rep on this forum. Use the Member search (click Members, top right next to logout) and do a search for DeVilbiss Marketing (her username). I am sure she can give you a complete explanation on each model, and you'll likely hear back from her quickly.

Regarding the card reader: The software requires a module be placed at the back of the machine in which the SD card is inserted to collect data the module gathers from the machine. The card reader is part of the software package, but if you have a standard card reader in your laptop or printer, you can insert it there to upload date into the software.

[peterg]

I doubt you'll hear from the company, but we have a DeVilbiss company rep on this forum. Use the Member search (click Members, top right next to logout) and do a search for DeVilbiss Marketing (her username). I am sure she can give you a complete explanation on each model, and you'll likely hear back from her quickly.

Regarding the card reader: The software requires a module be placed at the back of the machine in which the SD card is inserted to collect data the module gathers from the machine. The card reader is part of the software package, but if you have a standard card reader in your laptop or printer, you can insert it there to upload date into the software.

thanks I got her using search forum topics, it didnt come up under "d"'s in member list.

I was getting to assuming that the softare and card reader came together, but it pays not to make assumptions, particularly when they are not telling customers what is included in a given model (which doesnt even exist on the manufacturers site). buyer beware in the extreme. Ill post here if I find out (or think about buying another brand)

[peterg]

nice little review of theDevilbiss Smartlink software very detailed.

http://www.cpap-supply.com/Articles.asp?ID=174

[Emilia]

nice little review of theDevilbiss Smartlink software very detailed.

http://www.cpap-supply.com/Articles.asp?ID=174

Yes, but that was the version 1 overview. In August of 2010, version 2.0 came out with a total overhaul of the reporting as well as the addition of SmartFlex to the system. We are now at version 2.3 of that iteration.

[flash2]

so what is the difference???????

[peterg]

nice little review of theDevilbiss Smartlink software very detailed.

http://www.cpap-supply.com/Articles.asp?ID=174

Yes, but that was the version 1 overview. In August of 2010, version 2.0 came out with a total overhaul of the reporting as well as the addition of SmartFlex to the system. We are now at version 2.3 of that iteration.

which raises another issue, I need to know when purchasing what version software there is, and does Devilbiss support software/firmware upgrades, and do they cost more money.

I just did a quick search and found an older firmware upgrade for an older model
http://marketing.sunrisemedical.com/DeVilbiss/DV5M/
so Id be optimistic that they will keep users up to date (and it looks like no charge).

[Emilia]

Within a version (2.0) you get free updates when you open the program... if there is a new version, it will generate a pop up for you to install it. However, if you had owned the previous version (1.0) you could not update to 2.0.... so yes and no depending on the version you are using. Version 2.0 is now up to 2.3. DeVilbiss does provide free firmware updates to users. I believe it is the only manufacturer of cpaps that does this. Last year when they added SmartFlex to the machines, those who had IP's already could just do a firmware update and upgrade to the newest system with SmartFlex. They would, however, need to update the software from 1.0 to 2.0 at that time... If they only needed the disk, I believe that was available to purchase separately from the whole 'package.'

[jmcanzo]

I was one with an older IP that did not have smartflex. Downloaded the firmware upgrade, hooked up the cable to my laptop and **POOF** my IP was up to date with all of the latest features! !

[Sleepy62]

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