Rainout?

[Meowser]

Ok.... I was on night 3 lastnight with my machine.

I turned my humidity setting up from 5.0 to 5.5 and today I feel much better. I also went back to my XS mask.

Think I experienced my first rain out in my Pillows.... Had condensation and water in the barrel.

Will the barrel cozy's help this and/or the ClimateLine hose? right now I have the SlimLine.

Can I go through my DME for the climateline or do I have to purchase that on my own?

and if I have to 'out of pocket' purchase it (the hose), whats a good cpap supply place?

This is kinda frustrating switching masks every night because the way they feel on my nose.... one morning I'll wake up and one nostril is fine and the other one hurts but then the next night its the opposite...

How long does it usually take to get everything set right and not have to adjust things? My nose is alittle mad at me right now lol.


Also, I looked at my data from lastnight... Leak was 0.0 but my AHI was 1.3.... what does that mean?

[Tip10]

Yes, the barrel cozy and/or the climateline hose will help with rainout. The climateline hose is designed to eliminate it completely where the barrel cozy is designed to lessen its effects by insulating the barrel a bit. My preference is the climateline -- I don't use pillows but it completely eliminated any rainout issues I had with any mask.

You should be able to go through DME (and hence insurance) on the climateline but it depends upon your individual insurance.

Our host is a great place to start in looking for supplies CPAP.com

Leak of 0.0 and AHI 0f 1.3 are excellent numbers. The leak of 0.0 says you are getting a great mask seal and the AHI less than 5 means you are controlling your apneas. Congrats.

[nanwilson]

Ok.... I was on night 3 lastnight with my machine.

I turned my humidity setting up from 5.0 to 5.5 and today I feel much better. I also went back to my XS mask.
Turn your humidity back down and ensure that your machine is lower than your head.
Think I experienced my first rain out in my Pillows.... Had condensation and water in the barrel.

Will the barrel cozy's help this and/or the ClimateLine hose? right now I have the SlimLine.
Yes, both will help.
Can I go through my DME for the climateline or do I have to purchase that on my own?
Call and find out which is cheaper.
and if I have to 'out of pocket' purchase it (the hose), whats a good cpap supply place?
Cpap.com ...they own this site.
This is kinda frustrating switching masks every night because the way they feel on my nose.... one morning I'll wake up and one nostril is fine and the other one hurts but then the next night its the opposite...

How long does it usually take to get everything set right and not have to adjust things? My nose is alittle mad at me right now lol.

Your nose will toughen up in a week or so. Perhaps that is not the mask for you, your DME should allow you to try mask for the first 30 days.Also, I looked at my data from lastnight... Leak was 0.0 but my AHI was 1.3.... what does that mean?

Leak and ahi are stupendous!!!!!!!!!!!! Anything lower than 5 is considered good, so you can see at 1.3 you are GREAT!

[msradar65]

I would say definitely get the barrel cozy from Pad a cheek. It will make a world of difference. I would also go with the climate line hose and put a hose cover on for comfort.

I would check on ebay to see if you can get a climate line hose cheap. Especially if you have to pay out of pocket for the hose.

[Pugsy]

I am one of those people who needs higher humidifier settings to have a comfortable nose. Because of this I have the rain out issues with cool weather. If you lower your humidifier setting in an effort to reduce rain out you may trade one problem for another...dry nasal passages. So be careful with lowering if you happen to be the same as I am.

Lowering the machine will help with condensation in the hose but not much help with condensation in the nasal pillows if the condensation is from the moisture in our own breath which it usually is. The barrel cozy will help if the moisture in the nasal pillows is from condensation in your own breath. You might even need 2 of them depending on your room temp and your humidifier settings.

I wish I had a heated hose but I don't. I may try to make something. If you don't have the heated hose offered to you..I would sure get one. But even then you may still need a barrel cozy and maybe even a little hose cozy for the short hose to the pillows.

Winter time and rain out....there is always something. I imagine we will be seeing a lot of complaints with rain out from the newbies since cooler weather is upon us. I felt a fine mist spray myself last night more than once. Condensation in nasal pillows blew out the vent holes back onto my face.

If nose is sore....mask too tight? It is very easy to get this mask too tight. Have you read Janknitz fitting guide?
http://maskarrayed.wordpress.com/swift- ... ing-guide/

and there is a video. I had one newbie they had been using the black strap over the top of the head instead of around the back as it should be.
http://www.cpaplibrary.com/nasal-pillows.html

[Meowser]

Thanks Pugsy! You have been a great help!

Yeah I'm a lot like you... I really hate dried nasal passages... i get headaches galore. I raised the humidity lastnight because 5.0 still dried me out. The 5.5 setting is just perfect.

The machine sits lower than my head. I will read those. Thank you! I don't have it on wrong, but probably too tight.

[Pugsy]

One other thought... many people like to route the hose overhead. If a person has some condensation in their nasal pillows guess where that water is going to go if hose is routed overhead? Yep, right back into the nose. Water cannot run uphill it takes the lower route.

Should people wish to route the hose overhead and they have condensation issues, then they have to really work on limiting the formation of the water. I don't particularly like routing things over my head so at least I don't have that factor to deal with.

BTW it only takes a small amount of water in the hose or nasal pillows to create the most awful sounds not to mention the annoying snorting of the water in the pillows. I have had 2 winters to fight rain out and I still don't have a perfect game plan. If I didn't need the added moisture so much...would be no issue but I do, so I deal with it.
While the rain out is annoying during the night at least no problem during the day... if I let my nasal passages and sinuses dry out I am totally miserable all day. I have experimented with lower settings and even forgot to add water...not the way to go..Total misery.