The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

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The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by robysue » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:38 pm

One year ago was my first night of using an APAP at home.

It's been a long, wild ride of a year that I really wouldn't wish on my own worst enemy: When things are going badly, I feel as though I've largely lost one year of my life working hard on making this crazy therapy work. When things are going well, I feel as though I'm finally waking up from a Rip Van Winkle nap. And so, it's time to reflect on where I'm at now. A year ago, I was using the title, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly for my updates. And I hought it would be appropriate to bring that title back for musings on my first anniversary on the machine.


The Good
When this crazy therapy actually works for me (now), it can be very, very good. On my best days, I physically feel much younger---as in the way I felt in my late 30's and early 40's some 10-15 years ago. I wake up with no hand and foot pain because I don't sleep with my hands and feet in fists anymore. The migraines are largely under control now too, due to the Deplin (the prescription vitamin I take that contains whopping large amounts of metaboliized folate) and the 400mg of B2 and 400mg of magnesium I take daily as recommended by the PA in the neurologist's office. And between the Deplin and the BiPAP, I even have days completely free of headaches---which is better than it was 10-15 years ago. (I've had chronic headaches of one sort or another almoste ever since I can remember, even as a child. They've never been severe, but they've always been there--as in 5 days out of every 7 on average.)

Also good is that the war with the insomnia monster is largely won---in spite of last week's set back. I'm still not sleepy long enough: It's a rare night that I actually get as much as 6 hours of sleep in about 6 1/2 hours in bed. But even so, I wake up feeling like I have slept and slept reasonably well most of the time. The number of wakes is still 2--4 on average, but the length of the wakes is seldom more than 5 minutes and until that last setback, the long restless periods of dozing and drifting in and out of sleep had largely disappeared. And the horrible case of the bedtime dreads that came with the insomnia has disappeared.

Also good is that I'm simply calmer and less hyper than I used to be---at least on my good days. On my best days, the little things don't annoy me as much as they used to. Perhaps it's the higher quality of sleep. Perhaps it's the Deplin. I don't really care why it's happened, I'm just grateful that it has. Along with this calmning down, I've noticed that I am far less sensitive to all the sensory overload that used to literally drive me up the wall: I'm finally becoming less aware of the irritating things about the machine. The air blowing into my nose no longer tickles the back of my throat. The hose no longer feels quite so much like a leash. I sleep more restfully which means that I don't tear up the covers as much and I don't disturb hubby as much.

I can now put off reassembling Kaa until bedtime without this being an issue. (When I first started out, the very act of getting everything ready and putting the mask on my nose woke me up as though it were a double shot of expresso.) And that in turn means I no longer feel as though I have to spend most of my evening simply preparing to go to bed each night. It's nice to have the evenings to do things with the family again.

Being on xPAP has forced me to get more serious about nasal hygiene. While the time involved is a bummer, I have to say that properly dealing with the congestion from my allergies so that I could tolerate Kaa has had the added benefit of introducting me to how it feels to breathe pretty much normaly during the growing season instead of sniffling my way through summer.

In summary, when things are going good in terms of my AHI (and the snoring), the insomnia, and the migraine/vertigo, I feel much better than I felt a year ago in terms of pain, tension, hyperness, and even mood. I feel good enough on these good days that I'm getting greedy: I want all of my days to be like the good ones.


The Bad
The severe and profound daytime sleepiness that I experienced during the Great Crash & Burn in Fall 2010 has lifted, but I still find myself yawning uncontrollably at my desk in the late afternoon and micronaps remain a disturbing problem for me. (And recall: I did NOT have any problems with daytime sleepiness before starting CPAP.)

My daytime energy levels are much better than they were during the Great Crash & Burn, but they are still not what they should be. I am still often more tired by the end of the day than I was pre-CPAP. And this is an odd thing: Pre-CPAP, I'd often start the day out in pain and feeling tired, but I didn't get much more tired as the day went on unless it was a really bad day. Now, I can start the day out feeling superb and even feeling like I've got a fair amount of energy, but by the middle of the afternoon, I get more tired that I used to feel pre-CPAP and I get extremely sleepy. While the sleepies will go away during the evening, the tiredness/fatigue does not. By the time we finish eating supper, I'm physically exhausted on many nights, but by that time I'm no longer sleepy.

Although the war on the insomnia has been largely won, the price of this victory has been great: In order to beat this insomnia monster I have had to:
  • Give up caffiene entirely, which has been hard. Not so much in terms of caffiene withdrawal, but mainly in terms fo the social aspect of coffee drinking in my family (and extended family) and in terms of my beloved unsweetened iced tea as my beverage of choice whenever I eat out---including geting lunch on campus.
  • Establish a more regular wake up time that I'd like. I've been backsliding a bit, but I know I can't afford too much backsliding. Sleeping in after 8:30am encourages me to not get sleepy until it's after 3:00am that night.
  • Continue to hard on establishing a more regular bedtime that is early enough to get the sleep I probably need. Alas, this part of the war on insomnia is where the resistance by the insomnia monster is at his strongest. I still do not get sleepy enough to go to bed at an appropriate time on most nights. If I try to go to bed as early as 11:00 or 11:30, I seem to have many more wakes and restlessness. But if I stay up, I'll naturally become more alert around 12:00 or 12:30 and then it will be aroune 1:30 or 2:00 before I get sleepy again. All in all, I seem to feel better the next morning if I just stay up and go to bed at 1:30 or 2:00: Long periods of restlessness while I'm in bed seem to do a real negative number on me.
  • Give more care and attention to how much I eat at supper and when I quit eating for the night. If I don't aerophagia will raise it's ugly head and interfer with my sleep
  • Largely give up social drinking. Not as hard as the caffeine, since I've never been much of a drinker. But it is irritating to have to calculuate risk to my sleep every single time I'd like to have a beer or a glass of white wine with dinner or at a party.
  • Pay even more attention to my overall sleep hygiene than I used to. And even before this adventure started, I had pretty much internalized all the major "good sleep hygiene" habits except for the rigid bedtime/wake up time routine.
Aerophagia continues to be an intermittent problem. Whenever Kaa decides that I need an EPAP = 6 for more than 30% of the night or an IPAP = 8 for more than 55% of the night, there's a high probability that I'll get enough air in my stomach for discomfort. But it's been a while since I've had one of those nights where I wake up in the morning (or the middle of the night) doubled over in pain with a belly looking like I've swallowed a basketball. I don't miss those at all.

And I still get the sensation of too much air getting into my mouth right after I turn Kaa on most nights. It's not as bad as the chipmunk cheeks from a year ago, but nonetheless, I have an extremely difficult time even saying good night to hubby once the mask is on.

So overall, my sleep remains somewhat fragile even after a year of CPAP.


The Ugly
I still feel isolated from my hubby when I'm in my own bed due to the mask. I've not yet mastered being able to say more than an emergency word or two with the mask on. I can yell "GET CAT OUT" without getting a stomach full of air, but not much else.

Our sex life has taken a major hit this year with all the stress and effort I've had to put into dealing with adjusting to xPAP, fighting the insomnia, dealing with the protracted struggle to get the migraines under control. My libido wasn't particularly strong before this adventure begain---certainly not like it was even 5 years or so ago. But these days, I just plain have no libido whatsoever. I know that xPAP is supposed to help, but it's killed what little sex drive I had. I think part of the problem is energy, but part of the problem is definitely that I simply do not feel sexy with the hose sitting there on the nighstand. And I always fall asleep hard right afterwards---so putting Kaa together after doing it just ain't going to work. And then there's also the problem that right now, hubby and I seldom go to bed together any more: He gets sleepy between 10:30 and 12:00, and I'm not ready to go to bed that early. We'll muddle through this somehow and hubby is very understanding. But I do feel very guilty about this issue.

I am still dealing with residual anger issues concerning the OSA, the original sleep doctor, the long and tangled patient/provider relationship with the PA in the first sleep doc's office, and my current worries bordering on mistrust of the new sleep doc. I became very much aware that I need to deal with this during the homily delivered by the priest at my church on Sept. 11. The readings for the Roman Catholic liturgy that day just happened to focus on forgiveness. And Father Jack decided to focus his homily on both what it really means to forgive those who injured us in some way as well as why it is necessary for our own well-being to learn to forgive them. It got me to thinking about how much anger I still have over the ways in which I've been treated by the docs and PAs this past year. And it's clear that I need to let go of that anger through forgiveness before it completely consumes me. And that forgiveness does not equal forgeting or excusing the way I was treated or acting as though it was all "ok". But that forgiveness will be a key to letting me move forward with my life.

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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by deltadave » Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:18 am

robysue wrote:Our sex life has taken a major hit this year with all the stress and effort I've had to put into dealing with adjusting to xPAP, fighting the insomnia, dealing with the protracted struggle to get the migraines under control. My libido wasn't particularly strong before this adventure begain---certainly not like it was even 5 years or so ago. But these days, I just plain have no libido whatsoever. I know that xPAP is supposed to help, but it's killed what little sex drive I had. I think part of the problem is energy, but part of the problem is definitely that I simply do not feel sexy with the hose sitting there on the nighstand. And I always fall asleep hard right afterwards---so putting Kaa together after doing it just ain't going to work. And then there's also the problem that right now, hubby and I seldom go to bed together any more: He gets sleepy between 10:30 and 12:00, and I'm not ready to go to bed that early. We'll muddle through this somehow and hubby is very understanding. But I do feel very guilty about this issue.
Try boffing the guy at 9:30.

Unless there's some local statute prohibiting that.
robysue wrote:And that forgiveness does not equal forgeting or excusing the way I was treated...
Begging your pardon, but that's exactly what it equals.
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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by cflame1 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:24 am

try looking at forgiveness this way robysue...

It's for you. It's not for the other person. It's a matter of releasing the anger that you've got bottled up inside you over the whole mess so that it doesn't come back to bite you later.

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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by Mike6977 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:31 am

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robysue wrote:
  • Give up caffiene entirely,
  • Establish a more regular wake up time that I'd like.
  • Give more care and attention to how much I eat at supper and when I quit eating
    for the night.
  • Largely give up social drinking.
  • Pay even more attention to my overall sleep hygiene than I used to.

In short, robysue, you're signal compliant.

Learn the signal, and your whole life will change.


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a) .You're a medical oncologist. A long-term smoking patient presents to you with breathing pain, and tells you he occasionally coughs up blood in the morning.

b) .Diagnostics reveal that the patient has an undifferentiated mass, around 50 mm in diameter, situated in the upper-left quad of his left lung. .He also has what appears to be diffuse metastatic lesions in the contralateral lung.

Sooo, what's your primary management recommendation to this patient?. Do you recommend:

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deltadave wrote: Try boffing the guy at 9:30.

Unless there's some local statute prohibiting that.

IMHO, you can volumize the above to anytime, any place, by any means necessary.

Boffing is so signal complaint, so, yes, Life Affirming, that you should pounce on your significant other the second you finish perusing this board and make him GAFF*.

(*See my other posts about FFs, and their pluses and minuses.)


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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by jabman » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:20 am

I want to say congrats for making it a year with this therapy. I always find it encouraging when people that are struggling with this stick it out and do what is necessary for their health.
I hope this next year goes good for you.

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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by robysue » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:03 am

deltadave wrote: Try boffing the guy at 9:30.

Unless there's some local statute prohibiting that.
Two Muslim host daughters still awake and doing homework does make this a bit, shall we say, difficult. But it is part of how we are muddling through this.

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Post by robysue » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:05 am

cflame1 wrote:try looking at forgiveness this way robysue...

It's for you. It's not for the other person. It's a matter of releasing the anger that you've got bottled up inside you over the whole mess so that it doesn't come back to bite you later.
Exactly. And this was the whole broad point of Father Jack's homily. And why it hit home so much with me.

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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by robysue » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:09 am

jabman wrote:I want to say congrats for making it a year with this therapy. I always find it encouraging when people that are struggling with this stick it out and do what is necessary for their health.
I hope this next year goes good for you.
A big thank you jabman! I needed to hear this. I do think it remarkable that I've managed to stick with this therapy through thick and thin this year with 100% compliance. The support I've gotten here has been critical in keeping me going. As have decent AHI numbers all year long. And I'm pleased the things are going well at least part of the time now, and going "ok" most of the time. Sticking with therapy now is much easier physically and mentally than it was last fall when I was in the middle of that Great Crash & Burn

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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by Tip10 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:12 am

RobySue

Thanks for the update -- its always easier when one sees that one is not alone in this journey and in the struggles. Everybody has different issues yet some are always the same.

On forgiveness -- forgiveness is a personal thing -- its meant for no others. Whether or not you forgive them will have zero effect on them, whether or not you forgive them will have tremendous effect on you. The good Lord put you through that for a reason, He always has a reason -- what it is only He knows. Perhaps to bring you here to be the blessing you have been to those who need help. Thank you for that!

On the other -- well, lets just say mornings are wonderful, usually so full of energy, what a wonderful way to start the day!

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Post by Mary Z » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:41 am

robysue, thanks for your post. I'm impressed at the efforts you have gone to so therapy will be optimal for you. In particular the changes you are willing to make about coffee, drinking, and adherance to good sleep hygiene are admirable.

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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by Resister » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:26 am

Congratulations on making it a year!

Thanks so much for posting the raw truth of your story. I can identify with feeling isolated from hubby--that's EXACTLY where we are. The sexiness of the machine hasn't sunk in yet So glad that you have an understanding spouse (as do I, finally!) and it looks like the kinks will be worked out.
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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by LittleRedTruck » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:30 am

Robysue, as you know we humans are so adaptable. Ive woken during the nite, woke up my wife, done the deed, without taking my mask off. She loves me for it! I dont get near enough air thru the hose for that kind of exertion though! Gasp for 5 minutes after! Try it sometime, it still works! If you get my meaning! He will love you for it too!! Dan

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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by JohnBFisher » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:34 am

robysue, first my sincere congratulations on your efforts.

Though you might feel as if you are trying to empty a sea using a teaspoon, remember that NO effort is ever wasted. Though I've been fortunate to take well to xPAP therapy, I recently had additional affirmation that my effort to comply with the therapy was noted, even when I was not aware of that.

You see, my daughter was recently diagnosed with OSA. What she had learned was that you can work through the situation and make the therapy work. (You see, not every day of my past 20 year journey has been an easy path. We all struggle from time to time. And others notice your efforts. That is as important as the fact that you continue to struggle.

Second, know that by trying to help others here on the board, you also help yourself. Though that might not feel (at the moment) as an important thing, there is nothing more important in this life than our efforts to reach out and help others. Contrary to most every popular self-help book, we grow as individuals when we focus outward and earnestly desire to help others. You might not think it important, but I see the recognition from others that you do make a difference.

Third, learning to talk against the pressure takes a couple years. You will find you will be able to do more in time. But clear speech still requires me to stop my machine to talk with my wife.

Fourth, remember that (based on the age of the host daughters) you will normally find a decrease in your sex life. As I've explained to my children, my wife and I each married our best friend. The romance comes and goes over time. But our friendship remains an eternal constant. Fortunately, as the children move out of the home, you have more time for the romance. Always strive to maintain the friendship. That will get you through many tough patches.

Fifth, we all act stupidly at times. Sure it seems to feel good to feel injured. But especially with guys, remember that hurtful things are often just guys not realizing how their actions might impact others. It is often not intentional. (Speaking from personal, confused experience!) And more importantly, focus on that friendship and what drew you to your husband. By showing him what endears him to you, you will also help strengthen that friendship. And as cflame1 noted, the forgiveness we extend to others helps us first, our relationship next.

Finally, as you can see, others care. You are not alone - either in your struggles - or in celebrating the small steps you take toward better sleep and life. Hopefully the upcoming year will be just a touch easier and better for you and others around you. May grace and peace be yours!

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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by Sisyphus » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:39 am

Congratulations Robysue! It's nice to see someone whose struggle has paid off (even though there's more to go). I wish you could impart some magic wisdom as to how to do this (you've given a nice list). I've been struggling for 17 years, and have never seen any improvement whatsover. In fact, in the balance, I feel worse.

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Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---one year later

Post by robysue » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:08 pm

Tip10 wrote: On the other -- well, lets just say mornings are wonderful, usually so full of energy, what a wonderful way to start the day!
Been there, done that and agree. But right now, I'm sleeping too late in the morning given that I have to be at work by 10:00.
But this issue will sort itself out in a positive way. I know it will. Just a matter of time.

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