My sentiments, exactly, ozij.ozij wrote:Taping is not necessarily "safe". Nothing in life is "safe". A life of untreated sleep apnea is very very unsafe. You maintain a taper kill him or herself. Asleep at the wheel, a person who would have done well with tape may kill himself or herself, and a few innocent by standers along the way. And when that happens, no coroner's report will show that the unfortunate driver may be one of those who avoided taping because he read Archangle's "warnings".
Ditto to what kempo wrote.kempo wrote:People who tape, like myself, has tried everything else. Do you think we haven't thought of the " what if this happens or that happens". We tape because we have to. It comes down to taping or not getting the therapy we need. Understand?
For everyone who would say, "Well, why don't you just use a chin strap, or use a Full Face mask, or use an Oracle oral interface..."
I have tried just about every full face mask there is, including the Total, the Hybrid, and the Liberty.
I have tried the Oracle -- the original one and the re-designed one.
It's great that all those masks do suit some people. They do not suit me at all.
All those masks give me an unacceptable level of sleep disturbance.
I have tried many different chin straps, including the "Ultimate" and the "PAPcap."
No chin strap keeps me from breathing (and/or leaking) through my mouth.
As kempo said, "It comes down to taping or not getting the therapy we need."
I consider that putting tape over my mouth is safe for me to do.
There have been power outtages. I woke up. Noticed the machine was not running. Calmly took the tape off. Calmly took the nasal pillows mask off.
On one occasion in my seven years of using tape, I woke up one night feeling unmistakably nauseated. Calmly took the tape off. It was many, many LONG minutes later (lying there wide awake with the tape already removed) before the nausea had increased to the point of my getting up and heading for the bathroom just in time to throw up.
As ozij said, nothing in life is 'safe.' As with so many things in life, each person has to weigh the risk/reward inherent in everything we choose to do.
Choices. Risks. Rewards.
Getting on an airplane... driving a car... stepping into a bathtub... walking into a hospital... taking a bite of food...
Right. Obstructive Sleep Apnea messes around with my airway and blocks things.Knabino wrote:Rule #1 of survival is you don't want to mess around with your airway or block things.
For some people, it would be. Sounded like a REALLY BAD idea the first time (years ago, on another apnea forum) I ever read about someone doing that. Turns out that it's not only been a good idea, but the best idea I ever tried -- for me to get effective CPAP therapy wearing a type of mask that's comfortable enough to let me actually sleep.Knabino wrote:Taping mouth shut sounds like a REALLY BAD idea.