A word about ignoring

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A word about ignoring

Post by ozij » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:59 pm

In another thread - Rested Gal and others have said things I've been mulling about since yesterday....
"I hope that some of the dramatic personal reactions to posts that would have been better simply ignored (imho) won't make first-time message board users reluctant to post as an anonymous Guest if that makes them feel more comfortable."
The comfort any "Guest" can gain from this forum is its most important aspect. For some of those Guests, the ability to get an answer to their question can make or break their therapy. And we all know how difficult, and health saving - some even say life saving - this therapy can be. Registration entails giving your email address to the forum admin - and that maybe too much for some people.

Despite the good humor and friendliness, this forum is not supposed to be a social club. The humor, banter, mutual complimenting, etc. are a by product, but not the reason for it's existence. It is not a place where those who consider themselves "good guys and gals" should try to push out those they consider "bad". I was shocked to read a statement like the following "<snip> and NOBODY who is the type of member who truly belongs here should mind.<snip>" That statement makes it sound like someone has the right to judge who is the "type of member" who does and who does not "truly" belong here.

Factual information should be pointed out. Mistaken statements should be corrected, and this can, and should be done politely, and generally is. NOBODY should be told they don't belong here, or don't "truly" belong here. And NOBODY should be made to feel they represent a "type" of human being.

[quote'"LDuyer"]Unfortunately in the area of free speech often in order to allow the good, we have to accept the bad, ignor the bad and go on.[/quote]

Yes.
And ignore means ignore.

Ignore, according to my copy of the American college dictionary means: "to refrain from noticing or recognizing".

Being recognized is a very basic human need, and I have no doubt that all of us more constant posters express our need for recognition in that way. But let's try to limit it to being recognized for our tips, our sense of humor, our ability to give each other practical help, to find information that others can use. Posting here should not become a "personality beauty contest" nor are we in a "who is the best interpreter of motives" competition.

Dorothy Rowe, a very wise woman, once wrote: "Power is the right to have your interpretations prevail over other people's interpretations". We have recently been witnessing a power struggle between two people very intent on having their interpretations prevail.

Each of the two has a lot to contribute to this forum, and I am begging them: please ignore each other. Let go.

Some support is better given in private. As are some expressions of thanks. As are some expressions of criticism.

Insisting in public that someone else is this or that kind of person is giving that person the recognition they crave.

Ignore. Don't talk about. Don't describe. Don't make in issue of. Don't mention. Don't even say you are ignoring.

Just ignore and let us all go on to other things.


O.


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Post by ProfessorSleep » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:05 pm

Beautiful, O. And thanks for writing that. I must say how disillusioned I am to see yet another really good and helpful discussion board apparently teetering at the edge because of the ill behavior of a minority. It is sad how even one person can throw off the balance of a supportive group and send a board into meaningless disarray. This forum has been my salvation in my early CPAP months. It is up to all of us to see to it that it remains available to those who benefit so much from this venue. We certainly cannot contribute to it being sucked into a black hole of inanity and divisiveness. Hopefully, this message by O, asking us to ignore it all, will not result in yet another monopolizing discussion. I debated whether to respond or, as requested, ignore it. But I had not posted elsewhere, so thought I'd chime in with my agreement and support here for O's position. You speak for me as well. And that is all I shall say on the matter. I now return to ignoring it all.


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Post by wading thru the muck! » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:31 pm

DITTO!!!
Sincerely,
wading thru the muck of the sleep study/DME/Insurance money pit!

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Post by neversleeps » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:32 pm

ProfessorSleep wrote:Beautiful, O. And thanks for writing that. I must say how disillusioned I am to see yet another really good and helpful discussion board apparently teetering at the edge because of the ill behavior of a minority. It is sad how even one person can throw off the balance of a supportive group and send a board into meaningless disarray.
Ozij, you are wise beyond your years. (Actually, I don't remember how old you are, but unless you're 127, you are definitely wise beyond your years...)

The nonsense to which you are referring had no business appearing on the forum. Sadly, it did and it wreaked havoc. Now, with your absolutely brilliant post and the call to let cooler heads and hearts prevail, you have calmly and gently guided us to learn from it and move on. So I too will take the high road, and ignore it. I wish I had been smart enough to do it sooner.

What a gem you are!

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Post by peg » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:34 pm

Well thought out and said.
thank you.
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Post by wading thru the muck! » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:42 pm

neversleeps wrote:The nonsense to which you (ozij) are referring had no business appearing on the forum. Sadly, it did and it wreaked havoc.
I think you missed the point.

Whether or not the "nonsense" should have appeared on the forum is not for us to say... but it is for us to ignore, if we so choose.
Sincerely,
wading thru the muck of the sleep study/DME/Insurance money pit!

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Post by neversleeps » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:55 pm

wading thru the muck wrote:I think you missed the point.
I'm ignoring that too!

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Post by rested gal » Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:29 pm

never sleeps wrote:I'm ignoring that too!
And I'm laughing at that!

P.S. ozij, thank you.

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Post by GoodKnight » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:35 am

While doing a pretty good job of ignoring the "other" thing, I clicked on this thread thinking someone had misspelled "snoring".

Sometimes you just can't win!

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Post by LDuyer » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:19 am

GoodKnight wrote:While doing a pretty good job of ignoring the "other" thing, I clicked on this thread thinking someone had misspelled "snoring".

Sometimes you just can't win!

Ok, now you got me laughing!
So funny!

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I have decided to ignore this entire thread.

Post by Ric » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:19 pm

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Post by neversleeps » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:20 pm

ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!