s9 Still Raining

[cortez356]

I had previously posted about the rainout I was experiencing with my S9. Originally I had a temp setting of 78. I changed to to 73 but still had problems. Last night I awoke with water dripping from my Swift. Reached over and set the unit to climate control off and set the humidity to .5 and temp to 73. Worked fine. Any suggestions as to why I am having this problem? With a nasal pillow mask the air temp of the unit is not that important. But if I get a nasal mask the temp and humidity are crucial. Thanks

Bob

[Slartybartfast]

Bob,

Are you running the climate control in automatic mode or are you setting humidity and temperature seaparately? I have the Opus 360 mask which is similar to yours, but have no problem with rainout, other than an occasional single drop of water buzzing between the pillow and a nostril, which I wipe away and it's gone.

If you're running in manual mode (separate temperature and humidity settings) that might be your problem.

[cortez356]

I had the unit set to Automatic Climate Control but had lots of rainout. Last night I switched to manual half way through the night with the settings I posted: Humidity .5 and temp 73. Room temp was 65 and room humidity was 48%. It worked fine on manual and I could turn up the humidity but I dont think it is necessary. Before I bought the climate line hose there were zero rainout problems. I originally had the humidity at 2.0 with the slim line hose. With the ClimateLine I used almost half of the humidity tray every night. When I started out with the slimline I added water maybe very 3days. Seems like something is faulty.

Bob

[Gerald]

Cortez.....

You may be experiencing rainout caused by exhaled breath. I'm using a cotton wick inside my nasal mask to take care of that problem. If reducing the setting of your humidifier fails to cure the problem, PM me and I'll send pictures of my wick system.

Gerald

[cortez356]

Thanks Gerald: I am using the Swift FX. A pillow mask.

Bob

[roster]

I had previously posted about the rainout I was experiencing with my S9. Originally I had a temp setting of 78. I changed to to 73 but still had problems. Last night I awoke with water dripping from my Swift. Reached over and set the unit to climate control off and set the humidity to .5 and temp to 73. Worked fine. Any suggestions as to why I am having this problem? With a nasal pillow mask the air temp of the unit is not that important. But if I get a nasal mask the temp and humidity are crucial. Thanks

Bob

What climate do you live in? What is the relative humidity of your bedroom? Do you really need any supplemental humidity?

My bedroom stays around 50% relative humidity and that is plenty - I do not use the humididier.

During the winter when it is very cold (highs in the twenties or thirties) and the central heat runs a lot and dries the room air down to 35% humidity or thereabouts, I will use the humidifier at a low setting.

If you really need supplemental humidity, the standard solutions are to use a fleece cover (https://www.cpap.com/productSearch.php?query=hose+cover) on the hose and place the CPAP below the level of the bed so that any rainout will flow back into the humidifier tank.

[cortez356]

Rooster: Thanks for the reply. Presently we are in Northern Mexico. The house is concrete block( no insulation! ) and we are close to the sea. Humidity can vary. In the past week it has been as low as 35% and as high as 78 %. The only heat we have is a mini split with a heat pump. I try to keep the room temp at least 70. Last night I did not turn on the heat and room temp was 65 and humidity around 45 or 48. I use a hose cozy but my machine is on the nightstand and probably slightly below head level. I do use a 3M cable hanger on the wall way above head level as hose management. Using .5 or even 2.0 as a humidity setting I am probably not getting very much if any extra humidity. When I had the climateline set to Automatic I just assumed it would automatically adjust the humidity. Apparently it does not!

Bob

[roster]

Last night I did not turn on the heat and room temp was 65 and humidity around 45 or 48. Bob

That is a healthy humidity level without any supplemental humidity. You can try it with no water in the tank for one night and see if it is comfortable. I do it year round and have no problems with dry nasal passages or excess mouthbreathing. At 35% R/H or lower, I will use a humidifier on a low setting.

Be aware there are different opinions and there is a strong humidifier cult here who believes in pumping the humidity into the nasal passages.

I do use a 3M cable hanger on the wall way above head level as hose management.

I don't like hanging that cable overhead. The hose stays in the bed with me. If you think a little about the different positions you sleep in and how you roll from one position to another, you can figure out how to manage the hose in the bed more easily than hung overhead. Also hung overhead any condensation in the last curve of the hose will run right into the mask. A hose hanger is another blame thing to have to carry around when you travel.

But again,there are different opinions and there is a strong hose hanger cult here who believes in Hang 'Em High.

See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylY9wlnTdlw

[cortez356]

Rooster: I like your sense of humour! Those spaghetti westerns are still great. Can you leave the humdity on with no water in the tank??

[roster]

Rooster: I like your sense of humour! Those spaghetti westerns are still great. Can you leave the humdity on with no water in the tank??

You can, but I don't like heating an empty tank.

[kempo]

I would return the hose and ask for a replacement.

[cortez356]

Kempo: I would return the hose if I knew it was at fault. It could be the machine itself??
I bought it from cpap.com and I think I will call them tomorrow.
Bob

[kempo]

Bob, the climateline is suppose to deliver 80% humidity no matter what temperature you set it at "if you have it set on automatic". That is the reason it will use more water. But, it is suppose to do it without rain out. I use 3 times the amount of water with the climateline as I did with the slimline and I have never experienced rain out with the climateline. I would call cpap.com about it.