SD card and RT

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
User avatar
msradar65
Posts: 841
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:36 am
Location: In the Carolina's

SD card and RT

Post by msradar65 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:56 pm

After playing phone tag with the RT for the past few days he finally called me back. I let him know I had the resmed software and did he want me to send him my numbers for the past two weeks.

He told me no...he wants me to send the card so he can download the stuff himself. As he told me...he knows exactly what the doctor wants and I many not know how to set the software. What a crock of BS.

So now I have to figure out how to copy the data on to the secondary card that I got.

He also told me that he reuses the cards with other patients too. UGH!
Diagnosed 08/31/10. Titration 9/02/10. Started CPAP 11/01/10. Auto mode 10-15cm. Alternate mask GoLife for her. Back up mask Full-life full face w/Pad-a-cheek mask liner. Comtec CMS F50 wrist pulse oximeter. Sobakawa Cloud Pillow, Sleepyhead software

User avatar
xenablue
Posts: 1358
Joined: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:52 pm
Location: Aussie living in balmy Wisconsin

Re: SD card and RT

Post by xenablue » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:12 pm

You can just put the new card into the machine and download all the data as you did with the other one. I bought a new one because my DME also wants their card back so I'm using my own well before they snatch it back LOL.

Any problems, and Uncle_Bob is a great fixer-upper.

Cheers,
xena

_________________
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Dx 10/14/10. Also a T2 diabetic. High night/fasting numbers prompted a sleep study and here I am :-)

User avatar
spinifex
Posts: 47
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:56 am
Location: Perth; Western Australia

Re: SD card and RT

Post by spinifex » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:43 pm

Me thinks a marking pen to put your name on the card might make him send it back to the rightful owner.
These people think they are so far above everybody else. Makes me irate.
SD cards are so cheap these days, i bought a spare one the day i picked up my S9.

Jon

_________________
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Now using my own equipment. :)

User avatar
msradar65
Posts: 841
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:36 am
Location: In the Carolina's

Re: SD card and RT

Post by msradar65 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:31 pm

I have plenty of cards..it was just annoying how they act like they are in control and the patient is stupid!
Diagnosed 08/31/10. Titration 9/02/10. Started CPAP 11/01/10. Auto mode 10-15cm. Alternate mask GoLife for her. Back up mask Full-life full face w/Pad-a-cheek mask liner. Comtec CMS F50 wrist pulse oximeter. Sobakawa Cloud Pillow, Sleepyhead software

User avatar
trike-mike
Posts: 186
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:25 pm
Location: Canadian in South Orange County, CA

Re: SD card and RT

Post by trike-mike » Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:18 pm

Well.... I know I ain't so awful bright at the best of times.

That being said, I do find it somewhat galling at the arrogance sometimes shown on the one hand while they speak to "care for the patient" on the other.

_________________
Mask: Swift™ FX Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: ZzzPap CPAP for travel; lots of other masks - Some good... some not so much.

User avatar
billbolton
Posts: 2264
Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:46 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia

Re: SD card and RT

Post by billbolton » Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:05 pm

msradar65 wrote:He also told me that he reuses the cards with other patients too. UGH!
Um, er.... why is that a particular problem for you?

Cheers,

Bill

_________________
MachineMask
Additional Comments: Airmini, Medistrom Pilot 24, CMS 60C Pulse Oximeter, ResScan 6

User avatar
idamtnboy
Posts: 2186
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:12 pm
Location: Idaho

Re: SD card and RT

Post by idamtnboy » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:02 pm

msradar65 wrote:So now I have to figure out how to copy the data on to the secondary card that I got.
I recommend you always copy all the data from the card to a folder on your PC, using a new folder every time. Then you have a backup when you send the card in for reading by the DME. You can copy the data from your backup folder to a new SD card. If you want to keep a copy of the original flow data forever you need to copy from the SD card to the PC no less than once every 7 days. There's only seven days of flow data on your card and it is not kept in the S9. Detail data is kept for 30 days on the card, summary for 365 days.

_________________
Mask: AirFit™ P10 Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Hose management - rubber band tied to casement window crank handle! Hey, it works! S/W is 3.13, not 3.7

User avatar
allen476
Posts: 262
Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:49 pm
Location: Upstate,NY

Re: SD card and RT

Post by allen476 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:40 am

billbolton wrote:
msradar65 wrote:He also told me that he reuses the cards with other patients too. UGH!
Um, er.... why is that a particular problem for you?

Cheers,

Bill
I could see a potential problem with it. If the RT forgets to erase the card not only would that violate HIPPA but in some cases it could change the machine settings.

Me, I would write my name on it with a Sharpie and then send it in. I don't think that he would be keeping it as a spare.

The RT at my DME is awesome and she knows that I have the software and that I know how to use it. But when it is time for a compliance report, I have to send in the card even though that it would be easier to mail in the reports off from the computer. With some I don't think it is a power thing rather that it is making sure that the data is from the machine. When I asked her if I could send in the printed reports, she said "unfortunately I have to read it from the card". However she makes sure that I get my card back and not some card that is a "spare".

Could possibly be a requirement by Medicare that they could get audited on.

Allen

kentoboo
Posts: 56
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:19 pm
Location: Kentucky

Re: SD card and RT

Post by kentoboo » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:18 am

The therapist at my DME told me my card only registers time of use for compliance. I told her I would like to see some of my numbers to see what is going on. I have been on this for only two weeks. I thought this card held alot more info than only time of use?????

cflame1
Posts: 3311
Joined: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:55 am
Location: expat Canadian in Kentucky

Re: SD card and RT

Post by cflame1 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:25 am

kentoboo wrote:The therapist at my DME told me my card only registers time of use for compliance. I told her I would like to see some of my numbers to see what is going on. I have been on this for only two weeks. I thought this card held alot more info than only time of use?????
In this case your RT at the DME is correct... that's all your card will have on it. That's because however the machine that you have only records that information. You'd have to get a PRO or an Auto to get more information.

User avatar
idamtnboy
Posts: 2186
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:12 pm
Location: Idaho

Re: SD card and RT

Post by idamtnboy » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:59 am

allen476 wrote: I could see a potential problem with it. If the RT forgets to erase the card not only would that violate HIPPA but in some cases it could change the machine settings.
The HIPPA violation would be more a letter of the law violation than a meaningful disclosure of your data to someone else. There's no personal identifying info on the card. The settings wouldn't be a problem either. That card carries an identification file on it and if the serial number in the file doesn't match the S9 you're using, it formats the card. This is for the Resmed S9. I have no idea about other machines.

_________________
Mask: AirFit™ P10 Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Hose management - rubber band tied to casement window crank handle! Hey, it works! S/W is 3.13, not 3.7

User avatar
billbolton
Posts: 2264
Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:46 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia

Re: SD card and RT

Post by billbolton » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:37 pm

allen476 wrote: I could see a potential problem with it. If the RT forgets to erase the card not only would that violate HIPPA
Even if data did "escape", which requires that some explicitly looks at the data on the card before attempting to use it (see below), it is not personally identified data, so its a somewhat moot point as to whether it would be a violation.
allen476 wrote:but in some cases it could change the machine settings.
If an S9 "sees" a SD card that doesn't have its own serial number embedded in the data on the card, it reformats it immediately, so there is no risk of S9 settings accidently changing.

Cheers,

Bill

_________________
MachineMask
Additional Comments: Airmini, Medistrom Pilot 24, CMS 60C Pulse Oximeter, ResScan 6