Sound familiar? #2

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
User avatar
ched03
Posts: 108
Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:12 pm
Location: Texas

Re: Sound familiar? #2

Post by ched03 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:10 pm

Here is his latest. This is getting so old!
xerort wrote:Oh yeah, well I completly disagree with you!

So

Your situation shouldn't have happend. Your doc should not have given you a pressure without a titration, and when your RT heard that you were still tired and such, you should have been given an auto-titration.

This is more of an issue with having a bad doc/rt team then needing your download information.

I have no doubt that some of my patients are more intellegent then me. In fact, I once had a math professor figure out, during the course of his stay, how many cmh2o were in a psi. Took him like 3 hours or something. (It's 72, btw). He was definitly smarter then me.

Except when it comes to things respiratory. He could beat me in math, no doubt. Drop him in the average situation that an RT faces everyday, and he'd be lost.

There is a reason that being an RT requires a degree, as well as some pretty grueling testing, in order to be officially liscensed.

And to be honest with you? I get a patient into my office, and I ask them what is going on. From there, I make a decision about which mask I think is best, which machine I think is best. That is part of my job. I pick what I think is best for my patients, because that is what I am trained and experienced to do.

95% of my patients walk away with the same mask. Same with machines and nasal systems. Why?

Because there are many, many different types of masks. If I showed each patient each different type of mask, it would take a long, long time. Why waste time? Why not just show them what is the best of the best, in my honest professional opinon?

Each patient has a different situation, however most situations are solved by the same mask. "It's too uncomfortable. It leaks too much. It's too tight. The gel broke and it's sticky. It's too hard to clean. I dont like the way the foam feels on my face. it leaves marks on my face. It casuses abrasions where my face meets the mask. It falls apart too quick. There are cockroaches in my machine."

Wait: that last one wasn't about a mask. It was about a machine. and yes, it did happen.

The thing is, I could say "Ok, well, lets see what we have that could fix your problem!" and show them 8 different masks.

Or I could say "Ok, well, let me show you my favorite mask, the mask I have the most luck with, the mask that 95% of my patients end up with, the mask I get the least complaints about, the mask that has the highest customer satisfaction, etc. etc. etc."

Which would you prefer? Having a professional, who wants you to use your cpap, who wants you to be happy, who wants to do the best that he can by you, who cares that you have the best experience you can, or the RT that wants you to make your own decision, which might be a bad one?

I don't make money for my company, I am not a salesman. The rentals we receive off the equipment I set up and the masks I put out makes my company money. However, each mask and machine is charged at the exact same rate! If I didn't care, I could just throw any mask at a person, any machine, and make the same amount of money for my company that I would if I spent the time explaining exactly WHY I like a certain mask for there situation.

I am a respiratory therapist, and I am DAMN proud of it. I love being an RT, I love my job, I love my patients. And honestly? My patients love me, because I honestly and truly care about them. I want them to wear their cpaps, and I want them to have the best experience that they can.

I'm sorry your DME doesn't employ me. There should be more "me" out there, I guess. I'm pretty handsome to boot.

But I still say that for the average individual, getting the information from their download does little to help them. However, I will add the following statements:
You do not need to see your download information:
1) If you have a good doc/rt/dme.
2) If things are going well with the cpap, or if things are going poorly then refer to 1)
and lastly, and probably most importantly
3) If you don't argue with me for more then five minutes.

_________________
Mask: Swift™ FX Bella Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgears
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Pressure- 5-10; Ramp- 5 min.
"Whatever, I don't have sleep apnea." ---This is what I was thinking when my doctor told me that he wanted me to go in for a sleep study.--- Sleep happy and Gig 'em Aggies!!!

jonquiljo
Posts: 484
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:22 pm
Location: SF Bay area (Marin)

Re: Sound familiar? #2

Post by jonquiljo » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:27 pm

robysue wrote: Most posters are using computers with so-called dynamic IPs that are assigned to individual's computer from a pool of IPs registered to an institution (such as a college or business) or to the individual's internet service provider, if the user is posting from home instead of work or school. The IP assigned to the posters computer will change from day to day.
Yes, but I suspect the owner, Johnny Goodman, probably can block more than a singly distributed IP address. There is a way to do it - I think it depends on the board software.

The problem is that you can go through sites that give you an "anonymous IP" and you can even hide after that.

So, what to look for ......

1.) a low (less than 10) post count with a totally arrogant attitude bordering on asshole.
2.) any "professional" not known to this forum (Calist showed up in the beginning of October - so you get when these people would have to register).
3.) Anyone who does hit and run sniping at people without due cause (not that there ever is one).
4.) Anyone who preaches how he/she is smart and the rest of us are stupid.

The problem is that people like Calist (and his new identities) really get off on getting us angry - or even getting our attention. That's a hard one to deal with. Perhaps if we keep a thread going titled "Who is Calist pretending to be now?", we can add to it each time we see him and avoid any confrontation back. But to yell back at him is really making his day. I highly suspect that Calist (etc.) is posting this from work and has a cadre of associates watching gleefully.

Frankly I don't see the use of any "professionals" on a board like this altogether unless they are participating as patients, not teachers or advisers. There are a couple of medical professionals that post here regularly and they seem very nice - as they are acting as patients. It's the others who act as they are "above it all" attitude that really takes us down.

flash2

Re: Sound familiar? #2

Post by flash2 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:45 pm

Okay, so as most trolls go:
1. is calist truly only one person or maybe more than one having fun at our expense?
2. maybe a psych researcher trying to masquerade to get our responses?

love the idea of a post listing his latest names. But I have to confess, its almost fun to look for his latest just for the entertainment value. Geesh, you think he'd have a life but what am i thinking, of course he doesn't, he's a lower than life troll

cwied
Posts: 52
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:04 pm

Re: Sound familiar? #2

Post by cwied » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:49 pm

This guy claims to be an RT not an RPSGT. Are you sure that it's not just someone else who happens to share some of the same opinions and attitudes? I think that calist is probably amused at the number of other posters who are accused of being him (myself included).

There is a difference between trolling and posting opinions that disagree with the majority view here. Rather than writing them off as "another calist", wouldn't it make more sense to give new posters the benefit of the doubt first? I've found that engaging people who disagree with me in a productive dialog often helps them understand that my position also has merit. Who knows, they might also know something that furthers my understanding.
jonquiljo wrote:Frankly I don't see the use of any "professionals" on a board like this altogether unless they are participating as patients, not teachers or advisers.
Really? I hope this isn't the case. I was hoping this is a place where I can find out more information about my condition from other people with more knowledge about it, whether from personal experience or from education. Why would you turn away someone who has knowledge to share?

_________________
Machine: AirSense 11 Autoset
Mask: AirFit™ P30i Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear Starter Pack
Additional Comments: Auto 6-9 (EPR 1)

User avatar
robysue
Posts: 7520
Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:30 pm
Location: Buffalo, NY
Contact:

Re: Sound familiar? #2

Post by robysue » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:55 pm

jonquiljo wrote:Yes, but I suspect the owner, Johnny Goodman, probably can block more than a singly distributed IP address. There is a way to do it - I think it depends on the board software.
The problem is that unless our "friend" is coming in on what is essentially his own fixed IP address, blocking the [range of] IPs he comes in on will block other potential legitimate users who also happen to use his internet provider or work where he does.
jonquiljo wrote:So, what to look for ......

1.) a low (less than 10) post count with a totally arrogant attitude bordering on asshole.
2.) any "professional" not known to this forum (Calist showed up in the beginning of October - so you get when these people would have to register).
3.) Anyone who does hit and run sniping at people without due cause (not that there ever is one).
4.) Anyone who preaches how he/she is smart and the rest of us are stupid.

The problem is that people like Calist (and his new identities) really get off on getting us angry - or even getting our attention. That's a hard one to deal with. Perhaps if we keep a thread going titled "Who is Calist pretending to be now?", we can add to it each time we see him and avoid any confrontation back. But to yell back at him is really making his day. I highly suspect that Calist (etc.) is posting this from work and has a cadre of associates watching gleefully.
Expecting Johnny to ban/block new obnoxious posters just because they sound like they might be Calist crosses the line into witch hunting in my humble opinion. And I do NOT believe in witch hunts. And I say that as someone who personally tangled with Calist.

Johnny made a difficult decision. In his post concerning why he felt compelled to ban Calist, he pointed out that the ban resulted from one thing and one thing only:
forumadmin wrote:I hate banning people. It is almost always the wrong decision. I've done it here. I want to be crystal clear about why:

1. Calist could have disagreed strongly with how CPAPtalk is run and the opinions its members hold as long as he wished, so long as it was done with a bare minimum level of civility. Rough as some of the exchanges were, in isolation I'd allow it. Mixing it up leads to better ideas.

2. Calist should not have PM spammed CPAPtalk members. This was a subversion of the spirit and intention of the board. Make and win your points on the board, don't abuse another aspect of CPAPtalk in an attempt to end around the discussion. This is poor form but even this likely merits a "hey, please don't do this anymore" warning.

3. You can not tell CPAPtalk that you are affiliated with organizations when in fact you are not. Perhaps calist worked there at one time, perhaps there are other nuances at play but these are between calist and NJH. I've got a letter from National Jewish health saying he's not employed by them. A corporation sends that letter in one and only one case - when they aren't employing the person in question. This false representation has resulted in the ban
Calist was not banned because he was an obnoxious annoying troll who treated us terribly, nor was he banned for spamming newbies. As Johnny clearly stated, those nasty behaviors warrant warnings, not bannings. No, Calist was was banned for falsely claiming/implying professional association that was not true.

We're all big boys and girls here and we shouldn't need to be preemptively protected from new trolls who may or may not be a new alias for "him who cannot be named"

_________________
Machine: DreamStation BiPAP® Auto Machine
Mask: Swift™ FX Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: PR System DreamStation and Humidifier. Max IPAP = 9, Min EPAP=4, Rise time setting = 3, minPS = 3, maxPS=5

User avatar
jlk
Posts: 323
Joined: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:37 am
Location: Oregon

Re: Sound familiar? #2

Post by jlk » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:58 pm

YEP....."he who must not be named" ....I have a name for him but cannot say it because I think DoriC has me on double secret probation. Here we go again! john

_________________
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: ResScan software

User avatar
chunkyfrog
Posts: 34545
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:10 pm
Location: Nowhere special--this year in particular.

Re: Sound familiar? #2

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:00 pm

If I were in the front office of a national DME chain, seeing my profits and dividends being impacted by patients who are demanding better and smarter machines; all while insurance is only allowing X dollars--well you get the picture. . .
One more dirty trick is no big deal.

_________________
Mask: AirFit™ P10 For Her Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: Airsense 10 Autoset for Her

User avatar
ched03
Posts: 108
Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:12 pm
Location: Texas

Re: Sound familiar? #2

Post by ched03 » Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:31 am

So, here are some answers from the chat drama when calist listed his alter egos. Here they are: sleepyhead22, sleeptechulous, kenton and amyharper. He did mention of course that he will now have to use new ones. Be on the lookout!

_________________
Mask: Swift™ FX Bella Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgears
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Pressure- 5-10; Ramp- 5 min.
"Whatever, I don't have sleep apnea." ---This is what I was thinking when my doctor told me that he wanted me to go in for a sleep study.--- Sleep happy and Gig 'em Aggies!!!

User avatar
DoriC
Posts: 5214
Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:28 pm
Location: NJ

Re: Sound familiar? #2

Post by DoriC » Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:36 am

ched03 wrote:So, here are some answers from the chat drama when calist listed his alter egos. Here they are: sleepyhead22, sleeptechulous, kenton and amyharper. He did mention of course that he will now have to use new ones. Be on the lookout!
OK, I have my answer, just got a strange PM from sleeptechulous. How do we block him from sending PMs?

_________________
Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: 14/8.4,PS=4, UMFF, 02@2L,
"Do or Do Not-There Is No Try"-"Yoda"
"We are what we repeatedly do,so excellence
is not an act but a habit"-"Aristotle"
DEAR HUBBY BEGAN CPAP 9/2/08

RipVW
Posts: 1684
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:29 pm
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: Sound familiar? #2

Post by RipVW » Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:57 am

Amazing. I guess he's just aware of any of the real-life stories (like mine!) about how patient access to this data enabled optimized therapy, perhaps saved/extended life. Just amazing.
Image
Check out my chinstrap--> http://cpapchinstraps.com
Image