connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

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connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

Post by Astrophytum » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:26 am

Hello forum,


can I connect an pulse oximeter on an ResMed S9?

I will so see my oxygen saturation in the stored data in SD-Card.

So my next question, the oxigen saturation are also stored in data on SD ?


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Re: connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

Post by Astrophytum » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:39 am

Ok,

I have found alle needed infos on an German website!

But, whre can I buy an Reslink modul an an NONIN 8000AA finger oximeter sensor?


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Re: connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

Post by ZQuest » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:52 pm

Hello

There has been a few forum member's including myself that have inquired about getting one of these setups,I even ask my Dme and his reply was that i needed a prescription for the Oximeter and then he has to go thru Resmed and for what i was led to understand is that this setup cost almost as much as the machine itself.So as great as it would be to be able to have all the data in one place i've decided to go with a CMS 50F,and so far it has worked well for me,at a fraction of the cost

Ps. I Did not need a scrip to get one over the internet..


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Re: connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

Post by rdfry » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:39 pm

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Re: connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

Post by torontoCPAPguy » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:01 pm

The NONIN setup you are looking at is several hundred dollars (and I mean SEVERAL!) and all you get for your big bucks is a graph that has the pulse oximetry data on it.

You can pretty much do the same thing with a Contec CMS-50E recording pulse oximeter (USB interface) and it comes WITH the software. It is easy enough to mate the graph from the CMS50E with the ResScan graphs if that is what you need to do, but I have really not found the need. I ensure that the time settings on both are accurate and can relate one event to another. As you approach your golden bullet you will find that you are spending more time looking at the oximetry data than anything else and finally you will want a good pulmonologist to get you a sleep study (really, all I want is my own gear connected and an EEG with accurate time stamp) to ensure that you are getting sufficient REM sleep.

I am about at the point where my AHI and apnea and hypopnea events are all pretty close to 0 (zero) at MY pressure range setting after months of experimentation; my leak rates are nominal (except the gnawing need to leak at 4 a.m. every night); my SaO2 is approaching a consistent 95% through the night and will probably absolutely settle in there with a feedback O2/SpO2 loop controlling it if I get to it.

I guess what I am saying is that if someone else is paying for it... go for it and good luck to you as I hear they are pretty much bulletproof. And convenient. But if you are pulling money out of your own pocket, regardless of whether or not you have money to burn, it is a waste IMHO. A CMS50E will do the same job, just as well, for $130 or so. With either you are going to have to put a piece of blue masking tape on to ensure they don't shift or slip off at night while you are sleeping.

TO BE SURE, the oximeter information is VERY valuable clinical information as it is one more confirmation that you are approaching REM sleep as your SaO2 is likely to fall and you want to ensure that it does not fall below 90% as this puts you in the danger zone... and the farther it falls from there the greater the health risks and the lower the benefits of that coveted REM sleep you are seeking. Byproducts of low SpO2/SaO2 are myriad and I strongly recommend to everyone's reading any information that can be garnered on the forum as well as via GOOGLE. Even memory is affected by poor REM and low SpO2 levels.

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Re: connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

Post by LoQ » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:32 pm

torontoCPAPguy wrote:my SaO2 is approaching a consistent 95% through the night
How do you know what your SaO2 is?


torontoCPAPguy wrote:Even memory is affected by poor REM and low SpO2 levels.
So it would appear.

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Re: connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

Post by torontoCPAPguy » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:26 pm

LoQ wrote:
torontoCPAPguy wrote:my SaO2 is approaching a consistent 95% through the night
How do you know what your SaO2 is?


torontoCPAPguy wrote:Even memory is affected by poor REM and low SpO2 levels.
So it would appear.
Cut me some slack! Now that I realize that there is a difference (duh?) I am learning myself through reading but I can only read a few words at a time in my delicate condition (am NOT pregnant). I keep slipping back to SaO2 from SpO2. Sorry. Although the articles DO say that they are very similar numbers generally. Am trying to find a plain language explanation of the difference. Care to oblige? Will buy you a beer next time I see you.

And, if there is anyone out there that has a shop manual for the ResMed S8/S9 series; it would be great to find out what the pins on that interface are used for and what format they want to see on the pins. The Contec CMS50E has USB output and it shouldn't be too difficult to create some interfacing software. We can figure out what the output of the Contec USB port is, but what is the input of the S8/S9 and what is it looking for in terms of data? Their interface box looks pretty big if that's what is at the end of the 8000A.

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Re: connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

Post by LoQ » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:47 pm

torontoCPAPguy wrote:Cut me some slack!
And yet, your signature still says SaO2.


torontoCPAPguy wrote:Am trying to find a plain language explanation of the difference. Care to oblige?
Here's a hint--the denominator for SaO2 contains more terms.


torontoCPAPguy wrote:Will buy you a beer next time I see you.
Oooh, I don't drink beer. I have OSA.

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Re: connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

Post by Astrophytum » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:48 pm

Morning,

thank you folks for helping!


That's an great idea to use an CMS 50F and read the data into Rescan3.11!!!

I have send an PM to gvz, asking him to send me the software for trasfer the data from CMS 50F into Rescan3.11

Or, anybody other can help me with this software? When yes, please PM me.


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Re: connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

Post by Astrophytum » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:41 am

Hello,

gvz has me send the software,

he is faster as an lightning!


Thank you for helping,
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Re: connect pulse oximeter on ResMed S9?

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re: nightly bathroom visits

Post by moodyblue » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:17 am

Dear TorontoCPAPguy,
To address your problem with the 4.00am visits to the bathroom, you might want to check with your G.P. about using an anti-diuretic nasal spray called DDAVP (one puff in one nostril before retiring). The effect is nothing short of miraculous!
I have panhypopituitarism (i.e. no pituitary function) and therefore I do not produce the anti-diuretic. DDAVP effectively shuts down your kidneys at night while you sleep. You will need to have your sodium levels checked after several weeks as potential fluid retention could result in a dilution of your store sodium levels. I was taking 3 puffs a day in order to control the need for excessive bathroom visits during the day as a result of fluid intake. I suspect however that this will not be a problem during the night but it is best to check with a specialist.

I was extremely interested to read of your success in using an oximeter to monitor your blood oxygen levels during the night and intend to follow your lead.
I am still having problems with awakening during periods of REM sleep but there does not seem to be an anomolous breathing pattern immediaitely prior to the event.
I have had numerous hospital based sleep studies over the last 12 years and still cannot get more than 3 to 4 hours of undisturbed sleep. I am concerned that the hospital bed environment may not be ideal for assessing more complex sleeping problems and am looking forward to establishing a diagnostic system for EEG, SaO2 and CPAP therapy efficay in my home. Would be interested to know what % drop in SaO2 you have observed prior to the onset of REM.
Thanks for your inspiration,
moodyblue.

torontoCPAPguy wrote:The NONIN setup you are looking at is several hundred dollars (and I mean SEVERAL!) and all you get for your big bucks is a graph that has the pulse oximetry data on it.

You can pretty much do the same thing with a Contec CMS-50E recording pulse oximeter (USB interface) and it comes WITH the software. It is easy enough to mate the graph from the CMS50E with the ResScan graphs if that is what you need to do, but I have really not found the need. I ensure that the time settings on both are accurate and can relate one event to another. As you approach your golden bullet you will find that you are spending more time looking at the oximetry data than anything else and finally you will want a good pulmonologist to get you a sleep study (really, all I want is my own gear connected and an EEG with accurate time stamp) to ensure that you are getting sufficient REM sleep.

I am about at the point where my AHI and apnea and hypopnea events are all pretty close to 0 (zero) at MY pressure range setting after months of experimentation; my leak rates are nominal (except the gnawing need to leak at 4 a.m. every night); my SaO2 is approaching a consistent 95% through the night and will probably absolutely settle in there with a feedback O2/SpO2 loop controlling it if I get to it.

I guess what I am saying is that if someone else is paying for it... go for it and good luck to you as I hear they are pretty much bulletproof. And convenient. But if you are pulling money out of your own pocket, regardless of whether or not you have money to burn, it is a waste IMHO. A CMS50E will do the same job, just as well, for $130 or so. With either you are going to have to put a piece of blue masking tape on to ensure they don't shift or slip off at night while you are sleeping.

TO BE SURE, the oximeter information is VERY valuable clinical information as it is one more confirmation that you are approaching REM sleep as your SaO2 is likely to fall and you want to ensure that it does not fall below 90% as this puts you in the danger zone... and the farther it falls from there the greater the health risks and the lower the benefits of that coveted REM sleep you are seeking. Byproducts of low SpO2/SaO2 are myriad and I strongly recommend to everyone's reading any information that can be garnered on the forum as well as via GOOGLE. Even memory is affected by poor REM and low SpO2 levels.