s9 problem with humidity help

[jojojta]

For the past week this unit is not using any of the water. I have tried putting the climate control on auto - that didn't work- tried dif settings. Last night put climate ctr on patient and then set humidity to 5 and temp to 70. Water tub still full. I must be doing something wrong.Maybe pushed a wrong button and humidity is being bypassed?? Would appreciate any help. Thanks

[jabman]

Is it humid where you live? Mine has not been using much water ether but I think because it has been humid lately.The machine will adjust according to the humidity in the air.

[jojojta]

Yes, it has been humid here. Maybe that's the problem. So apparently the humidity function doesn't work then and this in turn causes dry mouth which makes me tear the mask off. I wonder if getting a regular hose instead of climate control will remedy that situation during humid times.

[KatieW]

I have found that the room temperature and humidity affects how the H5i works, and have a hygrometer on my night stand table. It cost about $20.

In Arizona, with humidity of 20-25% + 80 degrees, the H5i worked fine on Auto + 77 degrees.

But in April in Washington, with humidity of 40% + 70 degrees, it worked on Auto, but used 25% less water. I experimented and found the best setting--Manual 4.5 + 75 degrees.

This week, it's been warmer, with humidity of 40% + 80 degrees, and at the same setting, I've noticed it uses 25% more water.

I always turn the humidifier to pre-heat before getting to bed. It takes about 20 minutes, and feels warm to the touch. If it doesn't get warm at all, it may be defective. Check with your DME or vendor about returning it under warranty.

Though I do have the slim line hose, I haven't used it. A regular hose will also work, but don't forget to change the Hose Setting in the Clinical Menu.

[jdm2857]

Katie --

Have you ever tried holding the hygrometer so that it's sensor is in the vent flow from your mask? If you do that for a bit and then quickly view the display you should be able to get a reading on the air that the CPAP is blowing.

[jabman]

Yes, it has been humid here. Maybe that's the problem. So apparently the humidity function doesn't work then and this in turn causes dry mouth which makes me tear the mask off. I wonder if getting a regular hose instead of climate control will remedy that situation during humid times.

I have read on other posts that a dry mouth is an indcation of breathing through your mouth. I to have recently experenced waking with a dry mouth but I think it has to do with the new mask I am trying out, the Swift FX™ Nasal Pillow. I did not experence the dry mouth with my previous mask (which I was alowed to keep). I am calling my DME today to try a nother mask, I am going to go back to a nasel mask probly the soft jell or comfort jell.

[torontoCPAPguy]

I have found that the room temperature and humidity affects how the H5i works, and have a hygrometer on my night stand table. It cost about $20.

In Arizona, with humidity of 20-25% + 80 degrees, the H5i worked fine on Auto + 77 degrees.

But in April in Washington, with humidity of 40% + 70 degrees, it worked on Auto, but used 25% less water. I experimented and found the best setting--Manual 4.5 + 75 degrees.

This week, it's been warmer, with humidity of 40% + 80 degrees, and at the same setting, I've noticed it uses 25% more water.

I always turn the humidifier to pre-heat before getting to bed. It takes about 20 minutes, and feels warm to the touch. If it doesn't get warm at all, it may be defective. Check with your DME or vendor about returning it under warranty.

Though I do have the slim line hose, I haven't used it. A regular hose will also work, but don't forget to change the Hose Setting in the Clinical Menu.

Ahhh. "Hygrometer"... I knew there was a name for it. We have a lab hygrometer and my wife insisted it was a vetrinarian's thermometer but I knew better cuz the horses won't stand still long enough for a temperature reading. The thing has to be an inch in diameter besides. Wet bulb, dry bulb thingy? We actually have an electronic one that has a thermometer, calendar and WWV atomic clock built in (I kid you not on this one) and sits in our room to tell us the temp and humidity all the time. And what day of the week it is (this apnea thing messes with your mind).

I went to fill my tank this morning, however, after two nights of usage, and found it still half full. So there is some truth to the story here. I think that the S9 is just more efficient at measuring and controlling the 'wet' it puts in the airstream. It's on my list of things to investigate.

One wants to read the clinician manual for the humidity/temperature thingy on the S9 - it is vastly different from the S8 and the settings make a difference.

So does the climate control system hose versus the regular hose or slimline hose. I have to get my head wrapped around the way this thing is working but I think that it can be set up in several different configurations; I want to know how to get it pumping more humidity into the hose when my sinuses are having issues with the allergies (and THIS is allergy season, especially since they prohibited weed spraying in our area).

[jojojta]

I have found that the room temperature and humidity affects how the H5i works, and have a hygrometer on my night stand table. It cost about $20.

In Arizona, with humidity of 20-25% + 80 degrees, the H5i worked fine on Auto + 77 degrees.

But in April in Washington, with humidity of 40% + 70 degrees, it worked on Auto, but used 25% less water. I experimented and found the best setting--Manual 4.5 + 75 degrees.

This week, it's been warmer, with humidity of 40% + 80 degrees, and at the same setting, I've noticed it uses 25% more water.

I always turn the humidifier to pre-heat before getting to bed. It takes about 20 minutes, and feels warm to the touch. If it doesn't get warm at all, it may be defective. Check with your DME or vendor about returning it under warranty.

Though I do have the slim line hose, I haven't used it. A regular hose will also work, but don't forget to change the Hose Setting in the Clinical Menu.

Katie W. It sounds like your temp and humidity was very similar to mine this past week but your machine used more water and mine isn't using any so am quite baffled about this machine. AARGGG I didn'
t preheat cause I didn't want warm air so not sure if that matters or not. If room temp is 75-80 and I set the machine thermostate to 70 doesn't seem like it would need to warm up as the water should be at room temp. I almost wish I didn't have this machine.

[roster]

Yes, it has been humid here. Maybe that's the problem. So apparently the humidity function doesn't work then and this in turn causes dry mouth which makes me tear the mask off.

Your equipment profile shows you are using a nasal mask. Dry mouth is a clear indication that your are mouthbreathing. If you mouthbreathe with a nasal mask, you could very well be still experiencing many apneas because the system is not able to maintain sufficient pressure - the pressure is lost through your mouth.

Check your AHI and your leak rate.

A full face mask is a good solution for mouthbreathing.

This is a very basic case: "New member uses nasal mask and reports about dry mouth." Note to members who are going to answer such posts, before you send them on a wild goose chase, tell them about losing the pressure through the mouth!

[jabman]

This is a very basic case: "New member uses nasal mask and reports about dry mouth." Note to members who are going to answer such posts, before you send them on a wild goose chase, tell them about losing the pressure through the mouth!

Rooster Thankyou for the advice next time i will add the loosing presure part I did mention in my post above about mouth breathing.

[jdm2857]

This is a very basic case: "New member uses nasal mask and reports about dry mouth." Note to members who are going to answer such posts, before you send them on a wild goose chase, tell them about losing the pressure through the mouth!

Point noted.

[GTOJim]

My S9 seems to use very little water. It has been over a week since I added water, temp set at 2. Normally during the warm summer months I don't use heat. Without using heat I was adding water daily to my old Respironics. When I turn the S9 off in the morning the plate is cold.

I have used a standard hose and the slim hose included with the S9. I changed the settings for the proper type of hose, I live in a dry climate.

Is it normal for the S9 plate to be cold when the heat set at 2?

Also 50% of the time I put the SD card in the machine it gives an error message stating the card has to be removed, I'm using the ResMed card included with the machine. Is this normal?

[greg-g]

When this happened to me I reformatted my card in the computer (Fast format Fat32) and that solved the problem.
I now reformat my card every week after downloading the data.

[torontoCPAPguy]

Good point; the S9 indicates leak rate but that could mean either leak from the mask, from the vent OR mouth opening and allowing the air to flow out through your mouth = leakage. And if you have a dry mouth in the morning you have either had too much salt the night before OR most likely have air flowing out through your mouth or are attempting to mouth breathe with a full face mask.

I love the moist air but hate the heated air. When I was on oxygen in the hospital they had a contraption that bubbled the oxygen up through water to humidify it before blowing it into me. It was great. Reasonably cool O2 and very moist. Don't mind the warm air in the winter or if I have a stuffy nose or a cold (code id by dose) but in the summer weather it bugs me.

[GTOJim]

When this happened to me I reformatted my card in the computer (Fast format Fat32) and that solved the problem.
I now reformat my card every week after downloading the data.

I will give it a try, thank you