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Does anyone know?

Post by megawill » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:02 pm

I was part of a discussion at lunchtime today where a co-worker was going on and on about her husbands snoring. He snores and snores loudly on a nightly basis, falls asleep at the drop of a hat, ect. I was just wondering on a stasitical basis, without regard to any 'symptoms' he might have how likely he is to have a form of sleep apnea.

I've seen these statistics quoted before but for the life of me cannot find them now.

What portion of the adult population snores on a nightly basis?
Of that population what percentage has a form of apnea?

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Post by Julie » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:45 pm

I have no idea if anyone's ever taken a poll on who snores when, but I can tell you that probably the majority if not the great majority of snorers probably do have some level of apnea, and I would ask your friend if her husband goes through the cycle of breathing quietly (if snoring at the same time), then seeming to stop for however long, then giving a big gasp and then going quiet again - over and over. If that's the case, he needs a sleep study!

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Post by GumbyCT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:21 pm

I never saw any surveys. I can say that at my sleep study when the tech ask me about how I sleep - I told him I have NO trouble sleeping (10-12hrs), anytime, anywhere as soon as I stopped moving, I can go to sleep. I thought it was a good thing.

Having to go to the bathroom (usu. many times) during the middle of your sleep is another symptom of OSA. High blood pressure, etc.
megawill wrote:I was just wondering on a stasitical basis, without regard to any 'symptoms' he might have how likely he is to have a form of sleep apnea.
Gumby thinks OSA is as common as cavities and arthritis. What are those odds?

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Post by jdm2857 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:27 pm

GumbyCT wrote:Gumby thinks OSA is as common as cavities and arthritis. What are those odds?
Having neither bones nor joints, what does Gumby know of arthritis??
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Post by KC5cychris » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:30 pm

I know that my son and wife kept telling me they could hear me snoring down the hall with the doors closed

I have moderate osa

Worth having it checked out

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Post by GumbyCT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:46 pm

jdm2857 wrote:
GumbyCT wrote:Gumby thinks OSA is as common as cavities and arthritis. What are those odds?
Having neither bones nor joints, what does Gumby know of arthritis??
Gumby is wise behind his ears.

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Re: Does anyone know?

Post by DreamOn » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:38 pm

jdm2857 wrote:Having neither bones nor joints, what does Gumby know of arthritis??


Gumby does have wires inside, to keep his/her shape when posed. Perhaps the wires are a little rusty?

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Post by sleepmba » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:46 am

megawill wrote:I was part of a discussion at lunchtime today where a co-worker was going on and on about her husbands snoring. He snores and snores loudly on a nightly basis, falls asleep at the drop of a hat, ect. I was just wondering on a stasitical basis, without regard to any 'symptoms' he might have how likely he is to have a form of sleep apnea.

I've seen these statistics quoted before but for the life of me cannot find them now.

What portion of the adult population snores on a nightly basis?
Of that population what percentage has a form of apnea?
24% of men suffer from sleep apnea of some form while only 9% of women do.

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Post by montana user » Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:21 am

Snoring by itself is not of concern, but when you add that to daytime fatigue, high blood pressure, morning headaches, then we start to think apnea. I have had numerous people in my lab that never snored, but had severe OSA.

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Post by woozie38 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:56 pm

Snoring by itself is not of concern


G'day Montana,
This quote is from an ABC Broadcast in Australia by a professor. "Snoring is the road to memory loss." Based on my personal experience, I can endorse this comment. He goes on to say that snoring is "over-breathing" which causes the co2 in the lungs to become depleated with subsequent lowering of the bi-carbonate content of the blood. The chemo-senors in the aorta and carotids send this information to the brain which interprets these signals as, "we have too much oxygen". The brain then signals the lungs to cease breathing and thus we have an apnea event. Apnea which means "no air" is a normal adjustment of the blood oxygen (pao2), by the blood monitoring system, but long events and apneas produced by spurious chem-sensor data are not normal. What we can draw from all this is that snoring is neither normal, or of no concern and should be adressed in the interest of good patient care. CPAP therapy eliminates snoring. Good luck with this...cheers, Geoff

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Re: Does anyone know?

Post by jdm2857 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:22 pm

That sounds like a description of Central Sleep Apnea.

Obstructive Sleep Apnea is caused by collapse of the airway in the throat.
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Post by Patrick A » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:26 pm

DreamOn wrote:
jdm2857 wrote:Having neither bones nor joints, what does Gumby know of arthritis??


Gumby does have wires inside, to keep his/her shape when posed. Perhaps the wires are a little rusty?
Them wires rust?

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Re: Does anyone know?

Post by timbalionguy » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:46 pm

woozie38 wrote:
Snoring by itself is not of concern


G'day Montana,
This quote is from an ABC Broadcast in Australia by a professor. "Snoring is the road to memory loss." Based on my personal experience, I can endorse this comment. He goes on to say that snoring is "over-breathing" which causes the co2 in the lungs to become depleated with subsequent lowering of the bi-carbonate content of the blood. The chemo-senors in the aorta and carotids send this information to the brain which interprets these signals as, "we have too much oxygen". The brain then signals the lungs to cease breathing and thus we have an apnea event. Apnea which means "no air" is a normal adjustment of the blood oxygen (pao2), by the blood monitoring system, but long events and apneas produced by spurious chem-sensor data are not normal. What we can draw from all this is that snoring is neither normal, or of no concern and should be adressed in the interest of good patient care. CPAP therapy eliminates snoring. Good luck with this...cheers, Geoff
Since most people (in my experience) do snore to some degree when they sleep, this would mean the vast majority of the people out there have CSA, and I think we all realize that this is not the case.

In my situation though, this makes some sense. I have noticed that as I get sleepier, my respiration slows and gets deeper. However, the PSG (and my subsequent experience with CPAP therapy0 shows my breathing rate actually increases when I sleep, suggesting that there may indeed be some form of dysregulation going on. Perhaps this is why my doctor was so quick to order an Auto SV machine (which I still don't have, due to gross imcompetence at the DME, and now my insurance objecting), and set the Ti to a seemingly too short time. It may also explain why I still have a great deal of problems with disturbed sleep, and have had these problems for as long as I can remember. -SWS is the expert on this subject, maybe he will chime in on this thread.
Lions can and do snore....

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Re: Does anyone know?

Post by DreamOn » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:01 pm

Patrick A wrote:
DreamOn wrote:
jdm2857 wrote:Having neither bones nor joints, what does Gumby know of arthritis??


Gumby does have wires inside, to keep his/her shape when posed. Perhaps the wires are a little rusty?
Them wires rust?
Yup, Patrick. I took my Gumby apart when I was a kid. Pokey too. I've seen it with my own eyes.

The changes are very gradual. At first, Gumby feels just a little stiff. As time goes on, the arms and legs don't move easily. Finally, the wires just break. Bad news. Very bad.