Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

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Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by DreamOn » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:01 am

ResMed was marketing their Tubing Wrap for use with both their S9 SlimLine and ClimateLine hoses. It appears that they no longer recommend the Tubing Wrap for use with the ClimateLine heated hose.

I had ordered a Tubing Wrap from https://www.cpap.com several weeks ago. It's been on backorder. A few days ago I received an email from cpap.com, which reads in part:

"If you intended to use the Tubing Wrap for S9 Series with the ClimateLine Tubing for S9 and H5i Climate Control System your order will be canceled.... According to the manufacturer, the Tubing Wrap is not recommended for use with the ClimateLine Tubing."

It should still be fine to use with the SlimLine hose. Just thought I'd let everyone know.

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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by nanwilson » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:40 pm

Does that also apply to Fisher Paykel heated hose?
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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by elena88 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:50 pm

thank you!
you mean the hose covers?
I couldnt get my hose cover on that slimline hose anyway...

but you can still use the rescue tape on it right?

silicone rescue tape?

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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by DreamOn » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:31 pm

nanwilson wrote:Does that also apply to Fisher Paykel heated hose?
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I don't know about that, Nan. You may want to ask Fisher & Paykel. The info I was given was only regarding the ResMed Tubing Wrap that was made specifically for the SlimLine and ClimateLine hoses. It appears that the ResMed Tubing Wrap is no longer available at cpap.com: https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... -wrap.html. The Tubing Wrap is no longer listed for the ClimateLine at all, and for the SlimLine the listing now reads: "This product is not for sale at this time."

I don't know if I'd cover any heated hose. I know that the SleepZone (Aussie) heated hose is not to be used with an extra cover, and instructions say it should not be used underneath blankets, etc. Some people on this forum have said they have covered theirs for years without any problem, but I would probably err on the side of caution.
elena88 wrote:you mean the hose covers?
I couldnt get my hose cover on that slimline hose anyway...

but you can still use the rescue tape on it right?

silicone rescue tape?
Yes, the hose cover made by ResMed for the SlimLine and ClimateLine. Rescue Tape resists temperature to 500°F, so my guess is that it should be fine. I don't think it's thick enough that it would cause the heated hose to overheat or anything. I have Rescue Tape on my ClimateLine too. I applied it where the rubber cuff and hose meet, to strengthen the connection in the hope that it'll prevent the hose from tearing there (as some seem to do).
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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by Uncle_Bob » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:34 pm

Thanks for the heads up. I wonder what the reason is for this

I use a snuggle hose cover on my ClimateLine hose, mostly to protect it and stop it making noises when it slides around on the top on my bed head.

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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by DreamOn » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:36 pm

Uncle_Bob wrote:Thanks for the heads up. I wonder what the reason is for this
The potential for overheating of the hose, I would guess. If anyone finds out why this decision was made, let us know! According to the email from cpap.com, it was ResMed's call to discontinue for use with the ClimateLine. I'm not sure why it's now "unavailable for sale" for the SlimLine too.



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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by Roman Hokie » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:38 pm

I'm still amazed that I saw some posts here where folks take heat-tape to their hoses...


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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by DreamOn » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:42 pm

Roman Hokie wrote:I'm still amazed that I saw some posts here where folks take heat-tape to their hoses...
Roman, are you talking about silicone tape, like Rescue Tape and "aircraft tape"? Some of us have used that to reinforce the hose/cuff junction, where these slimmer hoses seem to tear.

The Aussie heated hose comes with tape heat-shrink-wrapped in that area. I think something similar was discussed when it was discovered that these S9 hoses are a bit fragile, but the self-fusing silicone tape is a simpler solution.

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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by Roman Hokie » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:50 pm

No, not the silicone tape. The stuff you get at Lowe's or HD and plug into the wall... 110v electrically-powered heat-tape.

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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by nanwilson » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:52 pm

Thanks for the info
I too use the cover to stop the hose from banging on my headboard. I will go and take the cover off and just lay it on the top of the headboard and route my hose OVER it, that way it may still deaden the sound a bit.
I appreciate all the info posted on this forum, being new to this I never know if I'm doing something wrong.
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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by DreamOn » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:30 pm

Roman Hokie wrote:No, not the silicone tape. The stuff you get at Lowe's or HD and plug into the wall... 110v electrically-powered heat-tape.
Thanks for clarifying that, Roman. I've read about Repti Cable being used to warm CPAP hoses, but hadn't read about hardware store heat-tape being used for that.

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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by jdm2857 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:13 pm

The heat tape you can buy at Home Despot or Lowest (designed for protecting pipes from freezing or melting snow on roofs) gets way too hot to use on a CPAP hose.

There was some discussion months back on members who use a 15 watt heating element designed for reptile tanks on their hoses with success. These elements are silicone-covered heating wires that are 5' or so in length. Care must be exercises so as not to cause fires.
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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by Roman Hokie » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:15 pm

Yeah... that's the stuff.

Okay, so it WAS silicone-covered. Sorry, guys.

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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by SleepingUgly » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:25 pm

This is bad news. I was also using the Snuggle cover just to protect the hose and make it more comfortable. I wonder if it's not recommended because it interferes with how it works, or because there is some danger to using it.
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Re: Do Not Use Tubing Wrap With S9 ClimateLine Heated Hose

Post by elena88 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:22 pm

Yep, I would bet my breeches it WAS the overheating issue. I was wondering about that when I ordered a hose cover..

Okay, so can anyone think of another use for a hose cover?

If I had a snake, I guess it would make a nice jacket...

gerbil tunnel?

cat toy?

help???

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