Tender points on body caused by apnea?

kurtr · Post by **kurtr** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:44 am

I have several points on my body that are tender and seem to be made worse on night that I have apneas ( I am a mouth breather and still working on the right solution for good sleep every nigh). The points are elbow. hip, below clavicle, and shoulder blade.
I have read that sleep apnea can cause these symptoms. Since they are less noticable when I have a good sleep I believe that apnea is causing them in me.
Has anyone else noticed this type of problem?
Thanks,
Kurt

lindas88 · Post by **lindas88** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:36 pm

kurtr, I have the same problem...along with other problems. My hips get so sore sometimes it feels like I am laying on marbles. I got myself a thick piece of foam for my bed...that helped a little bit. I have a good mattress but it didn't matter. On Nov7th I am going to a specialist about this, and will let you know what he says....

fnorette · Post by **fnorette** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:39 pm

Consider an autoimmune disease, such as lupus or rheumatoid arthritis, along with fibromyalgia. Just a thought ....

lindas88 · Post by **lindas88** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:52 am

fnorette wrote:Consider an autoimmune disease, such as lupus or rheumatoid arthritis, along with fibromyalgia. Just a thought ....

I've been checked for lupus and thank goodness I don't have that...I do suspect that they may say I have fibromyalgia because they have checked everything else.

kurtr...have you ever been to a doctor about this?

th · Post by th » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:05 am

Kurt, I have the same problem exactly as you describe it. At first the doctor thought I might have fibromyalgia but wanted me to be checked for sleep apnea.......and it turned out I had sleep apnea.

sir_cumference · Post by **sir_cumference** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:06 am

I was diagnosed with fibromalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (some call it ME) for many years before I was diagnosed with OSA. However, having been treated with APAP for some time now I still get the joint pains and have a tendency to get desperately tired! The APAP does help, but if my experience is anything to go by, it is a gradual process of slowly getting better, not a dramatic change when you start treatment.

Expect things to get better slowly and to still have problems with pain at night. I often have to turn over because of shoulder pain and even neck pain at times! Unfortunalty, these conditions aggravate the treatment for OSA by making it harder to cope with the mask and lying in one position for a long time.

All I can say is bear with it! It will get better, but only slowly.

sir_cumference

lindas88 · Post by **lindas88** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:15 am

[quote="sir_cumference"]I was diagnosed with fibromalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (some call it ME) for many years before I was diagnosed with OSA. However, having been treated with APAP for some time now I still get the joint pains and have a tendency to get desperately tired! The APAP does help, but if my experience is anything to go by, it is a gradual process of slowly getting better, not a dramatic change when you start treatment.

Expect things to get better slowly and to still have problems with pain at night. I often have to turn over because of shoulder pain and even neck pain at times! Unfortunalty, these conditions aggravate the treatment for OSA by making it harder to cope with the mask and lying in one position for a long time.

All I can say is bear with it! It will get better, but only slowly.

sir_cumference

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:27 am

The vertigo was a major problem for a long time - they even gave me a brain scan to see if I had a virus in the brain!!! Moving my head called me all kinds of problems for ages, and even today, I occasionally get some problems in this area.

I also struggled with getting the right word out, memory, head ackes etc etc... The list goes on... but, it is getting better quite quickly now I am being treated. Although, these problems also make compliance difficult. For example I was up from 1am to 3.30 am this morning with joint pain etc ... so getting to the point of 100% sleep is a distant dream.

sir_(sleepy)cumference

lindas88 · Post by **lindas88** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:38 am

Anonymous wrote:The vertigo was a major problem for a long time - they even gave me a brain scan to see if I had a virus in the brain!!! Moving my head called me all kinds of problems for ages, and even today, I occasionally get some problems in this area.

I also struggled with getting the right word out, memory, head ackes etc etc... The list goes on... but, it is getting better quite quickly now I am being treated. Although, these problems also make compliance difficult. For example I was up from 1am to 3.30 am this morning with joint pain etc ... so getting to the point of 100% sleep is a distant dream.

sir_(sleepy)cumference

OK....I have had terrible dizziness for over a year now. It is a little better then a year ago but I still have alot of days that I feel that way. It is so hard feeling dizzy. I think I have gotten used to just feeling like that now....I also had a brain scan done. I worried about starting this new job because of my memory, and I can't seem to learn as fast as I once did...I am getting it though. I just have to really think about what I do.

I have hope that this will keep improving. I have accepted the fact that I will never be the same as I used to be...but will learn to deal with the way I am now.

kurtr · Post by **kurtr** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:37 am

Linda,
I have not been seen for the "tender spots" problem. It affects me most on my right hip when I sleep at night. I also had bad dizziness for a few years before I was diagnosed, that is now slowly getting better. From spending the last few days researching, I think the following on each issue:
1. Dizziness- Is probably due to lack of oxygen at night and with me a migraine type thing triggered by the apnea. It is slowly getting better. An important thing to realize is once you are treated for apnea with CPAP it takes 6 mo or more for readings like sympathetic response to return to normal so it does not happen overnight.
2. Tender spots- A high percentage of people with fibromyalgia have apnea and all have weird sleep problems. I found a few articles on people with apnea that have some fibromyalgia symptoms that get better with treatment and that is what I am hoping I have....something that will get better.
What I am learning is that apnea has drastic and long lasting effects that will eventually kill you if you don't treat it!

lindas88 · Post by **lindas88** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:29 am

[quote="kurtr"]Linda,
I have not been seen for the "tender spots" problem. It affects me most on my right hip when I sleep at night. I also had bad dizziness for a few years before I was diagnosed, that is now slowly getting better. From spending the last few days researching, I think the following on each issue:
1. Dizziness- Is probably due to lack of oxygen at night and with me a migraine type thing triggered by the apnea. It is slowly getting better. An important thing to realize is once you are treated for apnea with CPAP it takes 6 mo or more for readings like sympathetic response to return to normal so it does not happen overnight.
2. Tender spots- A high percentage of people with fibromyalgia have apnea and all have weird sleep problems. I found a few articles on people with apnea that have some fibromyalgia symptoms that get better with treatment and that is what I am hoping I have....something that will get better.
What I am learning is that apnea has drastic and long lasting effects that will eventually kill you if you don't treat it!

peg · Post by **peg** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:31 am

Just a thought...
I have bursitis in both hips and it can get pretty painful somedays. This cooler weather and rain is sure making a difference for me. Anti-inflammatory medication helps and sometimes (like today) just resting and taking it easy helps. But things always get better in time.

Keep your spirits up and keep searching for an answer it's out there somewhere! Massage therapy is a good alternative to medication also.

Severeena · Post by **Severeena** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:51 pm

I have a bad right shoulder and my sleepless nights makes it worse.

I have never been diagnosed with anything except for my Sarcoidosis and Erythema Nodosum.

It seems that Sleep Apnea goes along with the Sarcoidosis.

snork1 · Post by **snork1** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:33 pm

and I thought constant pain was just part of getting older.

"bad" shoulder, painful knees, sore neck of course which I figured was from headgear, and yah the hip gets sore if I spend too much time on it. I end up being a pretty restless sleeper.

But so far I have been able to overlook the pain and keep on biking and hiking and doing Taiji.

A good massage therapist is a necessity, not a luxury for me.

I am hoping CPAP will at least slow down the process and I sure hope mine is not fibromylangia or something. I try to stay in denial of THAT one and haven't even checked that as a possibility.

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