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Post by mxylplik2 » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:45 pm

Ok - tried reading/searching some old posts but not getting a clear answer.

1. Are there any straight CPAP machines that allow software monitoring (i.e., not APAPs, C-Flexs).

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Post by Wulfman » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:09 pm

Yes, Respironics REMstar Pro 2 CPAP w/C-Flex

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Post by mikemoran » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:18 pm

The ResMed Elite also provides software readouts. You can alos buy software at a later time to convert it to an autoset Spirit.


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Post by Jan in Colo. » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:58 pm

You had said no C-Flex's.....I don't have experience with this but my understanding is that C-Flex can be turned off?

Maybe someone with experience can answer that for both of us. I'm still actively reading all threads about machines because I haven't made my decision on the machine(s) I'm going to get. I'm thinking about one for home and one super-small model for travel. And the home model should provide some kind of read-out and software.

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Post by ozij » Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:59 pm

1. Cflex can be turned off.
2. Only the Respironics Pro 2 that Den mentioned will give monitoring of breathing events etc. The simple pro (without 2) will only monitor compliance.

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Post by rested gal » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:11 am

Jan, at this time Respironics doesn't make a "small" machine like Puritan Bennett's machines (under 2 lbs, including power cord) and the under 3 lb Resmed S8 machines.

That's not to say that Respironics machines are particularly heavy at almost 5 lbs, but the whole machine is bigger in length and width than the other manufacturers' small machines.

Those weights are without a humidifier attached...just the machines themselves. In the case of the PB, I included the weight of its power cord adapter, too.

If a person doesn't need pressure relief when exhaling, and is looking for a small machine, easy to take on trips, I personally would opt for the Puritan Bennett GoodKnight machines - they have a nice square shape for packing (like two videocassettes stacked) and are the lightest weight of the "small" machines.

I'd also use (in fact, do!) the 420E autopap as my fulltime machine at home. It's small, yet is a very sophisticated autopap. Uses Silverlining software and a download cable. Don't have to buy a separate card reader to download data from the machine.

Thanks to loonlvr's neat suggestion, I don't even have to bother bringing my 420E to the computer to do the cable download. The back of the machine has a regular phone jack thingy to plug in the download cable, so I just temporarily string out a long phone extension cord through the house from machine on my nightstand to the download cable that stays plugged into my computer. Voila'...easy download without moving the 420E.

Or, if a person wants a straight cpap machine, I'd get the PB 420S cpap. Would also provide plenty of data via Silverlining software.

Or....if a person wasn't a bit interested in data and wanted just to save as much money as possible, then the PB 420G cpap.

If the person does need exhalation relief and a machine in a small package, you'd have to go with the ResMed S8 machines:

S8 Elite (straight cpap with EPR) or S8 Vantage (autopap that has EPR. But important to note is that even though the Vantage is an autopap, it can't use EPR in "autopap" mode. EPR is available only when the Vantage autopap is being used in CPAP mode.

The cheapest of the small ResMed machines, the S8 Escape, doesn't have EPR, nor does it give any data other than compliance (hours of use).

The other two ResMed machines with EPR use Autoscan software (my least favorite software of any used by any of the different brands of machines) to provide more data.

If one can live without seeing full data in graphs and charts (not that Autoscan provides very useful ones, imho...lol) then an advantage of ResMed machines is that you can see some data via the display window and buttons on top of the machine itself.

Another one that at first glance seems like it might be nice for travel too since it comes with a battery, is the Aeiomed Aura straight cpap machine. However, by the time you add up weight of machine, power cord, and battery, it's almost as heavy (at better than 4 1/2 lbs) as the bigger Respironics machines. The "R2D2" shape of the Aura cpap machine doesn't look as handy for packing as the flat square shape of the PB machines, but perhaps it's ok...hard to tell from pictures sometimes. There's no exhalation relief, no autopap version, and no software or display of AHI data, that I'm aware of for this machine.

Personally, I'd go for the PB machines for home and travel. If I absolutely needed a battery and didn't want to figure out battery "stuff", there's an expensive optional battery pack made by Puritan Bennett for the PB machines. Would add 8 lbs though!

C-flex can be turned off on any Respironics machines.

EPR can be turned off on the ResMed machines.

"Auto" mode can be turned off on any autopap machine...just switch the machine's operating mode to "CPAP."

The Respironics REMstar Auto with C-flex can be operated in any of 4 modes:

CPAP - straight cpap.
CFLE - straight cpap with C-Flex enabled for exhalation relief
APAP - as an autopap without C-Flex.
AFLE - as an autopap with C-Flex enabled.

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Post by ZZZzzz » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:54 am

You are a wealth of info!

Thank you,
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