I switched from APAP to CPAP

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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP--Day 3 results

Post by DreamOn » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:08 am

KatieW wrote:Image
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Autopapdude and LinkC....guys, I think you're both right--in that whatever works for you, is the best way to go...for you. I appreciate you both! And you've made me laugh.

It seems that cpap is working best for me though. For now anyway.
That is one sweet chart, Katie -- great numbers! That chart looks very similar to my typical night. Some nights I have zero apneas, and some I have an AI of .1. Compared to the first chart you showed at the beginning of this thread, when you were using APAP mode, that's quite an improvement! Of course, we all know "one night doesn't make a trend", but I'm interested to see how this goes for you. Are you feeling better during the day?

I'm curious....what was your sleep-study titrated pressure? Did you come up with a set pressure of 10 from the sleep study, or did you determine that from your APAP results?

I'm also wondering, if you don't mind sharing, are the leaks bathroom trips or mask changes? I mentioned in another thread that my nightly bathroom trips completely ended at exactly one month after starting CPAP. If those are bathroom breaks on your chart, it'll be interesting to see if they are gone soon, as that could be an objective indication that CPAP is indeed giving you more optimal treatment on a consistent basis.

Please let us know how this goes for you. I'm very interested! And the other side-conversations on the thread have some entertainment value.

~ DreamOn
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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Post by Autopapdude » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:09 am

Autopapdude

OK mate, I am taking myself too seriously.

What are you doing when you tell people that their experience is wrong.

So.......serious when you have something to say, but when you are proven wrong...then its "relax".

What a hypocrite you are.
A hypocrite for being enthusiastic over a treatment that works extremely well? Oh please! You're the one who has his knickers in a twist, mate. I've been supportive of you and your comments when you've made them, so please don't throw around garbage.

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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Post by LinkC » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:47 am

Autopapdude wrote: the apology I made before was to a female member who was offended
Bad memory? I'll help you out...
Autopapdude wrote:I feel much better, and wish to offer an apology to anyone I offended or hassled with nasty or edgy posts.
Autopapdude wrote:(to LinkC) You're being gratuitously petty, despite an apology I made to you previously for my curtness. I think my apology was wasted on insensitive ears.
If calling you out on your bad advice, incorrect "expertise" and blatant lies is "stirring the pudding" or "flaming", you should get used to it. We agreed months ago that you would continue to post your bullfunky and I would continue to point it out. It appears several others see you for what you are, as well.

Have you considered working for a DME? You have all the qualifications and the personality, as well...

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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Post by GaryG » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:49 am

Katie, your numbers are great (I'm jealous). Don't change anything. Just see if you can reproduce them. And when you can, let us know if you feel any better since CPAP. This might take more than a few days. Looks like you're on the right track.

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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Post by Autopapdude » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:55 am


If calling you out for your bad advice, incorrect statements and blatant lies is "stirring the pudding", you should be used to it. We agreed months ago that you would continue to post your bullfunky and I would continue to point it out. It appears several others see you for what you are, as well.

Have you considered working for a DME? You have all the qualifications and the personality, as well...

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I will agree to disagree with you, and put up with your irascible, obnoxious personality. You're a self-proclaimed expert on everything, and it is scary that you work in a reasonably sensitive field. I can't believe that you pass the government psychological evals, given your "bully boy" mentality, but so be it. OKAY LNKY, you the man!

Earlier in the thread you had nothing substantive to add, you you trashed Katie's thread with self proclaimed wisdom and insults. Too bad, as it was a good discussion before then.
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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Post by nobody » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:56 am

LinkC wrote: It appears several others see you for what you are, as well.
I'm thinking someone (apapdude) is just trolling for arguments!

To Katie, numbers look good, I hope it continues like that!

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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Post by Autopapdude » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:59 am

Katie, your numbers look fantastic! Congrats, and keep up the good work. Sorry for the distractions, and hang in there with what is difficult therapy. You're doing extremely well, whether it be apap, or cpap.

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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP--Day 3 results

Post by KatieW » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:32 am

Are you feeling better during the day?
Yes, though I didn't feel bad before, I feel more alert when I wake up, and less aerophagia during the day.
I'm curious....what was your sleep-study titrated pressure? Did you come up with a set pressure of 10 from the sleep study, or did you determine that from your APAP results?
My titrated pressure was 7. I don't think they used EPR, because it's not mentioned in the sleep study report. On Oct 17, I started on APAP at minimum 5, maximum 8. I gradually increased the minimum to 8.4 and maximum to 10, with EPR 2. Things were going pretty well, but I was still tweaking. Most nights my 95 centile was 9.8 and maximum was 10. I didn't want to go above maximum of 10, because I experienced painful aerophagia at 11. So that's how I came up with cpap of 10.
I'm also wondering, if you don't mind sharing, are the leaks bathroom trips or mask changes?
They are not bathroom trips. I think it may be mask discomfort or body discomfort from sleeping in one position too long, or being too hot or cold in the room, or cat activity, or outside noise. Once I'm awake, I re-adjust whatever is needed, and go back to sleep pretty easily. I used to wake up more frequently with the nasal pillows leaking or uncomfortable. Am now sleeping much longer with the Mirage SoftGel nasal mask. I just bought a Activa Lt on cpap.auction, and am looking forward to trying that too.

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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP--Day 3 results

Post by carbonman » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:45 am

KatieW wrote:Yes, though I didn't feel bad before, I feel more alert when I wake up, and less aerophagia during the day.
Katie, you're a jewel.

.....keep'n your eye on the prize.
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to see or feel those changes, you'll never know what you're capable of."
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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Post by LinkC » Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:47 pm

Autocrapdude wrote:All I was doing was sharing my expertise as an autopap user.
And I"M a "self-proclaimed expert"??? I challenge you to show where *I* EVER claimed any expertise. Get over yourself, dude!

You claim my attempting to correct your BS isn't "substantive" but your insults and lies ARE? You lie so often you can't even keep them straight! You think it was a "good discussion" until someone poked holes in your misinformation. It was a "good discussion" when Katie wisely ignored your recommendations! And found her numbers improved...

It's real simple. As I told you once before...you stop posting unsubstantiated BS and I'll stop calling you out on it. If anyone else posts crap, I usually challenge it. And I welcome criticism if I ever do. You seem to be prolific in that regard. That's why you apparently think I'm picking on poor little you.

And, since you brought up occupations, I hope you'll excuse me if I don't take career advice from an unemployed musician with a chip on his shoulder.

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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Post by Autopapdude » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:29 pm

And, since you brought up occupations, I hope you'll excuse me if I don't take career advice from an unemployed musician with a chip on his shoulder.
That is funny. I am enjoying that one immensely. You are pathetic, and don't even know me. lolol
And I"M a "self-proclaimed expert"??? I challenge you to show where *I* EVER claimed any expertise. Get over yourself, dude!

You claim my attempting to correct your BS isn't "substantive" but your insults and lies ARE? You lie so often you can't even keep them straight! You think it was a "good discussion" until someone poked holes in your misinformation. It was a "good discussion" when Katie wisely ignored your recommendations! And found her numbers improved...

It's real simple. As I told you once before...you stop posting unsubstantiated BS and I'll stop calling you out on it. If anyone else posts crap, I usually challenge it. And I welcome criticism if I ever do. You seem to be prolific in that regard. That's why you apparently think I'm picking on poor little you.

And, since you brought up occupations, I hope you'll excuse me if I don't take career advice from an unemployed musician with a chip on his shoulder.

Nice human being here. As I said, a bully, with obvious emotional problems, and feelings of inadequacy. You'd not dare say crap like that to someone's face, but you're a badass on the internet.
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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP--Day 3 results

Post by rested gal » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:30 pm

carbonman wrote:
KatieW wrote:Yes, though I didn't feel bad before, I feel more alert when I wake up, and less aerophagia during the day.
Katie, you're a jewel.

.....keep'n your eye on the prize.
Good way to put it, carbonman.

btw, you're a jewel, too.

Happy to hear it's going so well for you, Katie.
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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Post by KatieW » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:02 pm

GaryG wrote:Katie, your numbers are great (I'm jealous). Don't change anything. Just see if you can reproduce them. And when you can, let us know if you feel any better since CPAP. This might take more than a few days. Looks like you're on the right track.
Gary, how's your trial with cpap going?

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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Post by GaryG » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:19 pm

My numerical results - two nights good, one bad. Need to get more data for now, as I'm not getting consistency. Still feel tired though. Actually a bit more tired on CPAP than I was before. But there are so many variables, I feel I need to collect a little more data.

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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Post by Autopapdude » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:30 pm

My numerical results - two nights good, one bad. Need to get more data for now, as I'm not getting consistency. Still feel tired though. Actually a bit more tired on CPAP than I was before. But there are so many variables, I feel I need to collect a little more data.

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Hang in there Gary. It is difficult either way (apap or cpap). It will get better and stabilize after a while, which ever mode you decide works best for you. Ignore all the arguments, and do what is best for you. You're a good guy.