What to do when you drop that weight?

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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by dsm » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:44 am

Speaking about dropping weight, heres what it looks like when you drop 97KG off a 430 foot tower

http://www.internetage.ws/family/doug/d ... umps-1.wmv

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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by carbonman » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:50 am

elader wrote:
Carbonman, I was quite the roadie a ways back. I have a quite old trek 1500 (16 years) that I am replacing with a really sweet Felt F2C/Dura Ace on Sunday. I promised myself I wouldn't ride the new bike until I could at least do 30 miles on the old one without looking too ridiculous.

This part of Maryland is beautiful green farmland, gentle rolling hills, and no pissed off Texas farm dogs. Really a nice place to ride.

I am afraid all my gear is quite grungy and will need to be replaced. I haven't mentioned this to my wife yet, but she is quite supportive, so I am hoping she won't kill me.
Felt F2C.......carbon ....swEEEET!
I'm always looking for new places to ride.
I would love to ride those green, rollers w/you.

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I just tell my wife, "it's toys and I want it."
She just rolls the eyes and says beats hanging out in a bar.

I'll be on the road this weekend.....hope to see you there, too.
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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by MrSandman » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:40 am

carbonman wrote:
elader wrote:
Carbonman, I was quite the roadie a ways back. I have a quite old trek 1500 (16 years) that I am replacing with a really sweet Felt F2C/Dura Ace on Sunday. I promised myself I wouldn't ride the new bike until I could at least do 30 miles on the old one without looking too ridiculous.

This part of Maryland is beautiful green farmland, gentle rolling hills, and no pissed off Texas farm dogs. Really a nice place to ride.

I am afraid all my gear is quite grungy and will need to be replaced. I haven't mentioned this to my wife yet, but she is quite supportive, so I am hoping she won't kill me.
Felt F2C.......carbon ....swEEEET!
I'm always looking for new places to ride.
I would love to ride those green, rollers w/you.

I bleed Trek.
1100, 1400, 2-2120's and present, 5200.

I just tell my wife, "it's toys and I want it."
She just rolls the eyes and says beats hanging out in a bar.

I'll be on the road this weekend.....hope to see you there, too.
I found that the fatter your behind the more that darn seat hurts!!! It didn't even bother me 30 years ago. I do think some are cured when they lose enough weight!

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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by kteague » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:54 am

Browser -Haven't associated that word with me in a while! Hopefully you're a visionary and I'm on my way there - think I've made it to tepid thusfar. (Not so much based on weight but on how I feel.) But thanks for the vote of confidence.
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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by roster » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:14 pm

DreamStalker wrote: .......
About 3or 4 weeks ago I changed the diet to a paleolithic (meats, veggies, nuts, and berries) or hunter-gatherer diet and have lost about 15 lbs. After further research, I have decided to once again modify the diet into a protein sparing modified fast (similar to OptiFast or MediFast diets except using real food instead of protein shakes) by simply dropping the nuts and berries and just eating lean meats, tons of green veggies, and loads of omega 3 fish oil and a few other supplements to improve my insulin sensitivity (~ 1000 kCal per day diet). After about 6 to 10 weeks my thyroid response will begin to slow the weight loss down and that will be my cue to bring back some good whole carbs for a couple of weeks to restore my thyroid levels so that I can cycle through the PSMF diet for another 6 to 10 weeks and that should get me pretty close to my ideal weight by the end of this summer. I discussed all with my PCP doc last week and he was in agreement with my approach and was impressed that just with the paleolithic diet alone I had dropped my triglyceride levels to my lowest levels ever at about 114 (anything under 150 is good) and my total cholesterol was down to 163 (anything below 200 is good) ... when I was first diagnosed with OSA, my triglycerides were over 350. Exercise will be minimal with one day-a-week high intensity weight training and very low intensity/low impact cardio (walking) and flexibility (yoga) exercise 2 days of each per week.

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What you have done with diet is impressive. What are your major sources of protein?

For one source of protein I am using 96% lean ground beef but just wondering if there is really a good reason not to use the better tasting chuck which is 80% lean.
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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by jda1000 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:56 pm

Fascinating series of posts...I hit the gym just before being diagnosed because I felt awful all the time and even without OSA, was at risk for everything (cancer, diabetes, heart disease) anyway, being 5-8 and about 230 something, a BMI in the mid-thirties.

When told I had OSA, I thought it was due to obesity, only - have of course learned otherwise. I've also learned about rostral fluids, weak diaphragms, systemic inflammation, and on and on and on. It's an endless topic, but if I made a list of my known conditions and my fears, the treatments and preventions all basically boil down to one thing: GET FIT.

I will in time achieve my supposed "ideal weight of 160, down from 210 today and 235 last fall. I might even do it so healthfully it's real fitness and not just skinny-ness; imagine, muscle tone and lung capacity and an absent of the special fat that seems to hang from our livers....

It may be I'll do all that and still need CPAP. That'll be frustrating.

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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by roster » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:15 pm

jda1000 wrote: .........
It may be I'll do all that and still need CPAP. That'll be frustrating.

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Don't get your hopes too high. I am fit with BMI 23 and still have severe OSA. There are many slim members here with severe OSA.

Don't let that discourage you. Life is much better for a fit CPAPer.
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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by carbonman » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:41 am

jda1000 wrote:the treatments and preventions all basically boil down to one thing: GET FIT.
Eat right.
Drink plenty of fluids.
Get plenty of sleep.
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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by MrSandman » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:51 pm

And - move where Carbonman is and ride where he does to see these awesome views he posts here...
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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by Chris61 » Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:08 pm

I have lost over 70 lbs. since I had my first sleep study. I worked with my doctor and about 18 months after the first sleep study I had another one and he said that I still have sleep apnea and could use the machine and/ or dental device. I use the dental device and doing well. You can see my other post for details on my sleep study results etc. Good luck with what you are doing. Keep in mind everyone is differant and results will very.

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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by Guest » Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:52 am

I get asked this question almost everynight. While it is possible to get off of CPAP by weight loss, its pretty uncommon. I have seen many people lose 30-100 lbs, and all it does is drop your pressure. I have had some patients who lost 150 plus pounds get off of CPAP completely, but most of us don't have that much weight to lose. I wish I could give better news, but this is my experience.

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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by WearyOne » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:20 am

I've been about 80 pounds overweight since starting cpap two years ago. Forty pounds and 10 years ago I had a sleep study and did not have sleep apnea. After stupidly gaining another 40, I was retested because I knew I had it, and did. Although I'm not holding my breath, I am hoping that since gaining weight apparently is what led to my OSA, that losing it will do the opposite.

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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by Assimilate » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:46 am

OP congrats on your weight loss.

I was 194lbs when I started cpap treatment. Getting better sleep and not being tired all day has helped me start to exercise. I have now dropped to 174lbs and even competed in a duathlon. Something I would never of had the energy to train for before cpap. I am going to get another sleep test done, but I think , as most people say here, I am still going to need the hose at night. 194lbs was over weight but not too seriously, and I believe I have had apnoea since before that, when I was 154lbs even.

My dad used to always fall asleep as soon as he sat in a chair and snored and did the snorting, catching breath thing. Back then we didn't know what it was and used to make fun of his snoring Anyway, I think some apnoea s are genetic and not weight related. Even with all the cardio I do, I still need the machine and the cardio must be strengthening my respiratory muscles.

I'm just grateful the diagnosis and the machine have given me a life back, and if I have to wear the hose for the rest of my life then so be it

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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by elader » Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:27 am

Assimilate wrote:OP congrats on your weight loss.

I was 194lbs when I started cpap treatment. Getting better sleep and not being tired all day has helped me start to exercise. I have now dropped to 174lbs and even competed in a duathlon. Something I would never of had the energy to train for before cpap. I am going to get another sleep test done, but I think , as most people say here, I am still going to need the hose at night. 194lbs was over weight but not too seriously, and I believe I have had apnoea since before that, when I was 154lbs even.

My dad used to always fall asleep as soon as he sat in a chair and snored and did the snorting, catching breath thing. Back then we didn't know what it was and used to make fun of his snoring Anyway, I think some apnoea s are genetic and not weight related. Even with all the cardio I do, I still need the machine and the cardio must be strengthening my respiratory muscles.

I'm just grateful the diagnosis and the machine have given me a life back, and if I have to wear the hose for the rest of my life then so be it
Thanks for your thoughts, I am really feeling like I took a step up in the last two weeks after two months of diet and exercise. For certain Apnea is genetic in terms of anatomy and physiology - neck, chin, sinus structure, etc.

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Re: What to do when you drop that weight?

Post by sagesteve » Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:50 am

I was able to lower my pressure! For every 10 pounds dropped, I would lower it .5 -- I went from 11 to 8.5...still dropping the weight. I think I'll finally be at a 5.5 to a 6. Weight definitely was a BIG problem in my case. The HC150 is really helping too.
Started at 17 AHI, now down to 0.9!

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