same stinking problem

[gasparama]

Several months ago, I had much difficulty installing Encore Pro 1.8 on my Vista machine. Eventually, I had to reformat the hard drive. Last week, I bought another Vista machine. So far, I've installed Kazpersky, Office 2003, Audacity, and my printer. One of these programs must surely be the problem. I've disabled Kazpersky, but still get the same message that SQL Express server has encounted a problem...contact the administrator. Does anyone have any ideas what is going on? I can't believe this has happened again!
Jane

[Julie]

From everything I've heard (not necessarily connected to Encore at all) Vista's the problem for anyone who uses a PC. Get a Mac , or change back to XP.

[6PtStar]

Every time I read a post like this it scares the heck out of me. I know Bill is determined to force everyone to go to Vista. The stores here have been forced to stop selling XP and had to send all the copies on their self back to Microsoft.

The best I can tell Encore will only work on the 32 bit version of Vista. Not to say it is still a pain to get to work on the 32 bit version. I have been looking at new computers and all of the ones I see have Vista Home Premium which says it is the 64 bit version which won't allow Encore to work. My understanding (which may be wrong) the Ultimate version of Vista will allow you to select 32 or 64 bit whin you set it up. Seems that the Ultimate version is only found on the high end machines which cost $$$$$ more. My computer is geting old and I hold my breath every morning when I boot it up that it might turn up its toes and die and I won't be able to have Encore any longer. Mindy has tried to help me understand Vista but I am still not sure I understand it. I have tried asking questions at the computer store and am generally met with a blank stare.

I wish I could help with your problem but at this time I know nothing about Vista so I can't help. I have a friend that is a computer person that just raves about the 64 bit version of Vista and how fast it runs but he does not do what I do with my computer besides at this point in my like I have plenty of time to wait for the screens to change.

Jerry

[Babette]

Yeah, my mom, the computer geek, says it's the 64 bit thing that's killing us. Nothing is REALLY configured to work on 64 bit (despite marketing claims to the contrary), and it's a royal pain in the butt to get stuff to work. She's spent months reconfiguring her home based business to run on her new VISTA machine. Don't say the word "Palm" to her, or her head will spin around and she'll start channeling The Exorcist again.

I think, given the Encore Pro situation, and the fact that it will NOT be upgraded to work on 64 bit, your best bet is to designate an Encore-only machine, and not sweat over it.

Until your computer completely dies, and then you better have XP on disk to put on something else.

I find it hard to believe, with so many shade tree computer geeks selling stripped down computers on Craigslist, that you can't find a cheap used machine to just run XP and Encore Pro.

Heck, I see them on http://www.2good2toss.com and Freecycle too. Just go out and say you want an old computer running XP and you'll pay them a few bucks for it. There's gamers out there happy to recycle their old computer and get PAID for it, vs. paying the recycler to take it off their hands.

Cheers,
Babs - who can't afford a new computer, and is very grateful to get Mommy's cast-off models running XP

[nightjar]

I find it hard to believe, with so many shade tree computer geeks selling stripped down computers on Craigslist, that you can't find a cheap used machine to just run XP and Encore Pro.

Yep, that's what I did. I have a Mac G5 now (still running Panther, though!), and an old PII we've had for nearly 11 years--it runs Windows NT4, so it's very stable. But Encore doesn't like it. I'm lucky enough to have a friend with lots and lots of machines, and he basically gave me a stripped-down PIII with XP. I bought some cheap SDRAM to bring it up to its full capacity (512 MB!) and turned off all the fancy XP stuff to run it as lean as possible, and it does just fine with Encore and James Skinner's program.

That said, I wonder if there's a compatibility issue with Office 2003 or Audacity running on Vista. Or the antivirus prog. I sure don't know, because I have so little experience with XP, and none with Vista.

But Windows 7 isn't too far off. Maybe that will help things get along better. (Ha.)

I'm about to order Leopard at last so I can run some apps that won't run on Panther. Sigh. While none of the Mac operating systems seem to generate the loathing that Vista does (or that ME did), the compatibility issues still exist.

Sigh.

Good luck!

nath

[6PtStar]

You folks have better friends than I have. I did have one gave me a hand me down computer but it has 98SE on it. I tried to load Encore Pro but it said "this computer operating system is not compatable with this program". So much for that idea.

I have an idea that the new Windows 7 or what ever it is called may not give you the options that Vista does. XP (in my opinion) was the only thing Microsoft ever did at least some right. I did 3.1, 95, 98 (not bad), ME and XP. Control of XP with my computer did not come with disks so if it goes I have nothing to fall back on. There are sitll a few on line sellers selling XP disks but they are going up in price and getting harder to find. I do still have a sealed up copy of 2000. Anyone know if Encore Pro will run on 2000?

According to the computer gurus Apple is way down on it's quality even if I understood bootcamp and could put XP on it.

Jerry

[Bearded_One]

I just installed 32 bit Vista Home Premium on my home Windows computer (it used to be XP Professional) I also have a Linux computer at home and the experience showed me that installing Linux is easier than installing Vista. I had more trouble getting my HP 1020 to work with Vista than I do getting it to work with Linux.

[nightjar]

You folks have better friends than I have. I did have one gave me a hand me down computer but it has 98SE on it. I tried to load Encore Pro but it said "this computer operating system is not compatable with this program". So much for that idea.

I have an idea that the new Windows 7 or what ever it is called may not give you the options that Vista does. XP (in my opinion) was the only thing Microsoft ever did at least some right. I did 3.1, 95, 98 (not bad), ME and XP. Control of XP with my computer did not come with disks so if it goes I have nothing to fall back on. There are sitll a few on line sellers selling XP disks but they are going up in price and getting harder to find. I do still have a sealed up copy of 2000. Anyone know if Encore Pro will run on 2000?

According to the computer gurus Apple is way down on it's quality even if I understood bootcamp and could put XP on it.

Encore Pro ought to run on 2000, Jerry--and on NT and other Windows iterations. Check the system requirements at this link:
<http://encorepro.respironics.com/requirements.aspx>

It's Viewer that won't run on NT4: for that you need XP or Vista--but you can check the requirements for Viewer, too.

I don't have an Intel Mac, so bootcamp and running XP is out for me. But I have seen a number of XP machines, both PIII and P4s, for less than or right around $100. Some people want to get their money back after using a machine for however many years, but others just want it gone. If you clean them up--get rid of anything bad or extraneous--they'll do just fine as a dedicated Encore machine.

On the other hand, this old Dell Optiplex takes up lots of space. But it works, and it sure helps to see the data!

nath

[gasparama]

After my first post, I did a little looking around and the problem is the 64 bit. After I reformatted the hard drive on the old 32 bit Vista, I never had a single problem except for the hardware on the comp itself. Would I have to have Encore 1.6 for use on XP? BTW, at the chance of being run out of town, I like a lot about Vista and have few problems. I did find that for me the Kazpersky has done better than Norton. My son uses XP and Vista on the same machine, but that sounds difficult. And he doesn't use any virus protection on his gaming machine. He just never sets up or receives mail on it. All mail comes on his older machine. And he's very about the sites that he goes to. Oh well, I ramble here, but going without virus protection just seems a little daft to me.

[nightjar]

Would I have to have Encore 1.6 for use on XP?

Nope--Encore Pro 1.8.49 runs fine on XP--even on a PIII.

I did find that for me the Kazpersky has done better than Norton.

That doesn't surprise me at all. I swore off Symantec long before I moved to a Mac. I used F-Prot on the NT4 machine. I don't have anything on the PIII XP / Encore machine since I don't plan on accessing the internet for anything.

Hope some of this helps! Sure wish you could get things to run as-is, but I guess with computers these days, it's always something. . . .

Nath

[gasparama]

Well I just feel like sittin' down and cussin'. I couldn't get 1.8 installed on the XP either. It was also some kind of problem with the SQL Express. It shouldn't be hard to find one somewhere. That's a good idea about dedicating one to Encore. I could buy Encore Viewer, but I like to reset the card or clear it when I change masks and want to start a new record of averages. I think I must have some kind of Encore demon in my house because our XP is just recently rebuilt and should not be so messed up already as to have problems with Encore.