The Temp is there as a stick to get the worker to return sooner... Some off the street temp doing THEIR job ... LOL... Since you can't legally threaten them .... You're just helping them get their work done..
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Can/Should You Take Time Off Work For Treatment?
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I know that it might not be a popular stance to side with SnoreFest here, but I think that they have a legitimate concern.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that sleep apnea is a very serious ailment and I'm extremely glad that I did something about it. However, in the realm of all the possible ailments that we can suffer from, sleep apnea is very much treatable and really not that inconvenient. Therefore, if an employee/co-worker asked me for 8 weeks off, I'd most likely be skeptical too.
I'm not trying to belittle anyone's apnea, but rather, I just want to keep it in perspective - the treatments really aren't that bad. If someone needs 2 months off because they're fed up with their job and under stress, fine, take the personal sabbatical or leave the company. But to chalk it up to sleep apnea treatments sound like a bit of a stretch.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that sleep apnea is a very serious ailment and I'm extremely glad that I did something about it. However, in the realm of all the possible ailments that we can suffer from, sleep apnea is very much treatable and really not that inconvenient. Therefore, if an employee/co-worker asked me for 8 weeks off, I'd most likely be skeptical too.
I'm not trying to belittle anyone's apnea, but rather, I just want to keep it in perspective - the treatments really aren't that bad. If someone needs 2 months off because they're fed up with their job and under stress, fine, take the personal sabbatical or leave the company. But to chalk it up to sleep apnea treatments sound like a bit of a stretch.
Actually, Dave Hargett, the Chairman of the American Sleep Apnea Association, agrees that more than a day or two of time off shouldn't be necessary.
I don't think we ARE legally required to give the time off. But we're giving it off... I'm just venting a little. And trying to understand... but I think the general consensus is there's nothing to understand here. This ISN'T something that requires time off for treatment. The coworker's looking for an excuse to take time off for a break -- and is hiding behind sleep apnea, rather than just being upfront about it.
Whatever. I have work to do.
I don't think we ARE legally required to give the time off. But we're giving it off... I'm just venting a little. And trying to understand... but I think the general consensus is there's nothing to understand here. This ISN'T something that requires time off for treatment. The coworker's looking for an excuse to take time off for a break -- and is hiding behind sleep apnea, rather than just being upfront about it.
Whatever. I have work to do.
My .02 is 2 months off is a bit of a stretch for apnea. When I got off work, I went in for my study, didn't miss any work during the studies. (2 nights in the hospital) There are always exceptions to the rule I guess...
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Wow Snorefest, I'm sure impressed with your work dedication! I'm sure your child (children) will thank you for the time you "took off" for your maternity leave. I see now why you are so bitter about someone else taking care of herself. Are you a brain surgeon? Is that why you and only you can do your job? Maybe your problem is that your employer does not hire enough people to do the work in the first place.
Good luck to you!
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Bitter, I sense no bitterness from Snorefest . Just an opinion that is most likely true IMHO . 2 months is a streach. There are always those looking to take advantage of others and the system. Remember its just opinion. No one is talking about you . No need to defend yourself because we don't know you.
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The bottom line here is you are incensed and jealous that this woman (your subordinate--you pointed out) was approved by your company for time off work, thus increasing your workload. As is often the case in life, someone else is getting something you're not.
"Hey, how come Mary got more ice cream? No fair!"
"Sir, why does Mary have a bigger office than I do? No fair!"
"Human Resources, why does Mary get to have time off? No fair!"
I'm amazed you have actually gone so far as to drag this woman's personal medical leave issues into all the different online sleep forums, knowing full well she is reading and responding to them. So much for anonymity.
Your company approved her time off. You disagree with your company's approval of her time off. If you are so determined to make this your personal business, you should take it up with your company. But no, now you are harassing her via these different talk sites because you're angry that you have to do more work. Does your company know you are doing this? Have you any idea how this is going to backfire on you? In your effort to besmirch her name (and your not very well-concealed attempt to get her fired), you have now unwittingly positioned your company for a huge lawsuit! Harassment ring a bell?
As soon as your company receives the evidence of what you've been doing, which would certainly be simple to do with all the documentation you've left on the different websites, what do you expect will happen? Do you really think it is she who will be fired?
Honey, when this hits the fan, my guess is you'll be getting all the time off you could possible want... permanently. When this woman's medical leave is up she'll be back at the office. Unless of course, she chooses to retire on all the money she'll get from the lawsuit....
"Hey, how come Mary got more ice cream? No fair!"
"Sir, why does Mary have a bigger office than I do? No fair!"
"Human Resources, why does Mary get to have time off? No fair!"
I'm amazed you have actually gone so far as to drag this woman's personal medical leave issues into all the different online sleep forums, knowing full well she is reading and responding to them. So much for anonymity.
Your company approved her time off. You disagree with your company's approval of her time off. If you are so determined to make this your personal business, you should take it up with your company. But no, now you are harassing her via these different talk sites because you're angry that you have to do more work. Does your company know you are doing this? Have you any idea how this is going to backfire on you? In your effort to besmirch her name (and your not very well-concealed attempt to get her fired), you have now unwittingly positioned your company for a huge lawsuit! Harassment ring a bell?
As soon as your company receives the evidence of what you've been doing, which would certainly be simple to do with all the documentation you've left on the different websites, what do you expect will happen? Do you really think it is she who will be fired?
Honey, when this hits the fan, my guess is you'll be getting all the time off you could possible want... permanently. When this woman's medical leave is up she'll be back at the office. Unless of course, she chooses to retire on all the money she'll get from the lawsuit....
C'mon all :)
The issue being discussed is *not* time off to adjust to APNEA, this person wants time off from the stress of their job & attaching it to OSA is the way to get it.
I am sure most of us agree that adjusting to OSA does not take many days despite a few nights of disrupted sleep most people gain so much more energy that there is a natural balance.
Yes, there are exceptions but the only honest way to discover them is as the therapy unfolds. I doubt too many can see into the future well enough to know they will have problems in advance (based on common wisdom from people's common experience).
I fear this person is getting a 'bad rap' in regard to OSA in that it is clear it is job stress that the person wants time away from. The *real* moral dilemma as I see it, is if using OSA as the justification for time off that is largely related to another problem.
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I am sure most of us agree that adjusting to OSA does not take many days despite a few nights of disrupted sleep most people gain so much more energy that there is a natural balance.
Yes, there are exceptions but the only honest way to discover them is as the therapy unfolds. I doubt too many can see into the future well enough to know they will have problems in advance (based on common wisdom from people's common experience).
I fear this person is getting a 'bad rap' in regard to OSA in that it is clear it is job stress that the person wants time away from. The *real* moral dilemma as I see it, is if using OSA as the justification for time off that is largely related to another problem.
Cheers
DSM
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Why are you all so worried what her company approve. first Snore shouldn't be posting her business in this website. you all dont know how time she need off just because you all did it in three days or a week ok so what dont mean everyone would be that easy. please talk about something else that we all care about. I dont care about her personal life or what her job did. I care about what people are doing to treat their sleep apnea.
Intelligent debate on an issue dear to people's hearts is always fair.Anonymous wrote:Why are you all so worried what her company approve. first Snore shouldn't be posting her business in this website. you all dont know how time she need off just because you all did it in three days or a week ok so what dont mean everyone would be that easy. please talk about something else that we all care about. I dont care about her personal life or what her job did. I care about what people are doing to treat their sleep apnea.
Emotional debate on the same issue can be problematic.
Cheers
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...first Snore shouldn't be posting her business in this website...
AMEN.
This "debate," whether one considers it intelligent or emotional, arose because Snorefest felt her agency (property/casualty insurance, I'm assuming), should not have granted her subordinate a medical leave. Because the leave was granted, Snorefest has to work harder and this makes her angry. Snorefest had neither the courage nor the decency to take this issue up with her agency's human resource department (or perhaps she did and was told to mind her own business), so instead she brought it to this (and other) public forums where it clearly doesn't belong. Aside from being inappropriate, what Snorefest is doing constitutes harassment and bullying. Snorefest may be long gone when the time comes for this other woman to return from medical leave.
Absolutely no one, other than this woman's doctor, has the right to decide how much time and for what reason(s) medical leave is requested. How dare any of us pass judgement on her!
This is certainly none of Snorefest's business, nor is it ours.
I'm How could they know who Snorefest is talking about or where she works unless she tells us . Its a big country er world. Maybe i'm not really me. Maybe I'm somebody else. For all we know these posts are all made by the same few . Alter egos you might say. Pure fiction. Just a lark. Naa we wouldn't do that.
Don't take it so seriously.
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Don't take it so seriously.
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