Has anyone had this feeling??

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Has anyone had this feeling??

Post by grumpygirl » Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:26 pm

I know this is going to sound very crazy but I have noticed that when my leak rate is VERY low (last night .00) I have this feeling of anxiety during the following day. What could be causing this?? Has anybody else noticed this? I seem to have it when my leak rate is below .25 or so. Thanks for any info!!

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Post by Snoredog » Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:22 pm

I wonder if your leak go so bad that the machine stopped recording the leak?

untreated would leave you with anxiety and/or if pressure was too high over titrating you could do the same.

If you don't have your mask setting on "Std" that is your problem. It does NO good on that machine selecting anything else unless you have a Resmed specific mask.

For example, telling the machine you are using a Swift mask interface when you are using a Breeze or Nasal Aire isn't going to produce accurate leak results as they both have their own leak rate even though they are similar masks.

someday science will catch up to what I'm saying...

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Post by WearyOne » Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:29 pm

Maybe for you, when the leak rate is that low you're not venting enough CO2. I tend to have shortness of breath feelings when I use anything other than the Hybrid with the old shell (higher vent rate). Sometimes I do all right with the UMFF, but many times if I use that one, or the newer Hybrid shell with the lower vent rate, I'll have that problem. If you have a similar problem venting enough CO2 for you, it could be triggering the anxiety. And it could be just enough that a small unintended leak takes care of it.

Just a thought---

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Post by Julie » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:38 pm

Is it possible your pressure is set too high for a low leak rate? Have you tried lowering it a little and seeing what happens?

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Post by Shilohcane » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:59 pm

What about the obvious answer you had a better seal last night. I have had nights with 0.0 and nights with 0.36. It all depends on how tight I strap on that mask.


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Post by jdavis123 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:30 am

0.0 is usually an error in the reading on the machine.

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Post by grumpygirl » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:38 am

What could be the cause of such an error on the machine?? What do I do about it???

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Post by SuperGeeky » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:09 am

Though eight weeks is really just beginning, I've been very disappointed with the cognitive recovery. And realizing, memory brain cell damage is a done deal!

My last sleep study, used to prescribe the mask and BiPap, was the best I've ever felt. Woke up like a well oiled machine with the clearest head I can ever remember. And, that was with four hours of solid sleep!

I'm seeing the sleep Doc tomorrow. I'm going to ask if perhaps they supplemented the sleep study with some oxygen. Other than that, they went too conservative on the pressure??!

Oximeter is beginning to look like a very wise investment. I saw a news release of a new $600 Oximeter marketed to the SA folks. Prescription only in United States.

As I've said before, the therapy seems like a non-linear recovery, including learning to take of all the variables that make it optimal.

Good luck,

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Post by jnk » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:54 pm

I am new to osa and new to the forum, but I wonder if the anxiety may be a temporary mental/emotional reaction to getting a particularly good night's sleep, if you don't usually get one, that is.

If so, your body/mind will get used to it and the anxiety will dissipate.

It is a strange thing to feel particularly good physically after spending a lot of time feeling sleepy and sluggish. It takes a while for the rest of "you" to catch up with the physical part and to process the extra energy and to figure out what to do with it. It can make you feel sort of like having too many cups of coffee until you get used to it. The nervous system is a complicated thing, but it tends to figure things out on its own if you can roll with it.

That is just a thought, for whatever it is, or isn't, worth. Or maybe I'm the only one who finds my own feelings after a good night's sleep to be that complicated!

It's only been a few weeks for me on PAP therapy, and it feels like an emotional roller coaster some days. I try to ignore the ups and downs as long as I don't fall off the ride. But I too have noticed that when my AHI is low for a night, I seem to feel more "anxious" than "depressed" that day. But that's off the record, of course.

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Post by Moby » Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:54 pm

jnk, my psych took a guess at two years to reverse the brain damage from years of OSA. He didn't really know. But eight weeks isn't enough!

Don't get disheartened. Many people feel wonderful after their first night or two on cpap, but that is temporary. It is a glimpse of how things can be after you have slept off your sleep debt. That will take a long time I'm afraid!

keep on papping!!!

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Re: Has anyone had this feeling??

Post by blown lungs » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:14 pm

grumpygirl wrote:I know this is going to sound very crazy but I have noticed that when my leak rate is VERY low (last night .00) I have this feeling of anxiety during the following day. What could be causing this?? Has anybody else noticed this? I seem to have it when my leak rate is below .25 or so. Thanks for any info!!
I have had the exact feeling that you have and have been miserable because of it. I have had a uvulaplastomy and the air pumped into my stomach is more than a typical patient, thus making me anxious.
This air in your stomach and the continuous flexing of your diaphragm can leave your abdomen muscles spasing thus giving/causing an anxious feeling.

I have had a first sleep study showing that I needed obnoxiously high pressures (18) which I felt were ridiculously high. I complained and the tech said that the doc would not lower it any more than 2 so he moved it down to 16. My little brother is set at 12 with his. I have been trying to deal with this for about 9 months now and got nowhere except misled by docs telling me I had an anxiety issue due to the stress that I was under. I do not believe them.

So, I found another doc and got a sleep study last night and was put on a CPAP at lower pressure. My head has not been this clear for a year or so.
I had so much more energy and felt almost normal again.

So, don't believe your settings. The reason why they have come up with auto settings is that people's pressure reqts change almost daily due to nasal congestion and sleeping position. My recommendation to you is to get a BiPap first and pound on your doc about pressure reductions.

After all, treatments that make people feel worse don't do anyone much good cos the patient will quit it sooner or later. As my new doc said, compromise is the answer sometimes.