DeVilbiss Intellipap with Humidifier??

blder2000 · Post by **blder2000** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:51 pm

Hello All

Newbie here so I am sorry if this has been discussed. I have been reading all I can here to learn & this forum is great.

I was just diagnosed with Severe Apnea. My insurance wont pay for machine so I'm doing my own homework. No choice because I want to feel better. I have read lots of reviews but I am narrowed down to the Devilbiss Intellipap, auto adjust with humidifier. This appears to be very good, data ability, auto adjust, very quiet etc. Does anyone out there have expierence with it?

Im sure I may stumble along with the mask etc but I know most is trial & error.

Thanks very much

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Fri May 23, 2008 12:43 am

I wouldn't have any worries about getting that machine, it is supposed to be extremely quiet and Devilbiss always had good therapy algorithms.

That machine has also been getting pretty good reviews at least there are no complaints from what I've read.

There are a bunch of reviews on cpap.com for it. That machine has only been out a few months so reviews are going to be limited.

Shilohcane · Post by **Shilohcane** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:27 am

blder2000

I also was just diagnosed with severe sleep Apnea and had asked a lot of question on the board about the Devilbiss Intellipap auto about two weeks ago.

I can save you some trouble. The Intellipap auto is a new apap that few people on this board have. The two problems are is there is currently no software but Devilbiss seems to be hinting they will come out with software called "SmartCode". The second problem is it doesn't have "Pressure Relief on Exhale" that if you have a high-pressure range you could have a harder time exhaling.

I wanted that Devilbiss Intellipap Auto since it was made in the USA and great value for the features but decided to go with another apap because the "Pressure Relief on Exhale". I wasn't worried about the lack of software since Devilbiss had some older software on their old machines and was willing to wait for the software. The thread below is where I had a poll.

I am not the person to give you advice on the board since I am still in the same boat as you but I did do my homework on the Devilbiss Intellipap Auto. If you have a low air pressure requirement then you don't need the "Pressure Relief on Exhale" feature. I don't know what range is high or low you need to get real advice from others here. BTW, this is the best group of people and they know more than my Doctor about sleep Apnea. BTW, you need your doctor to write a prescription for an APAP not a CPAP.

The thread below is where I had a poll.

viewtopic/t31213/Help-on-Pressure-Relie ... ature.html

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Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Fri May 23, 2008 12:15 pm

I've been very impressed w/the information available about the IntelliPAP Auto, size, design, etc. - BUT - promises of software don't equal the software actually being available NOR WHAT DATA it will provide. Until I know what data WILL be available via this "promised" software I personally wouldn't even consider it.

And frankly, I fail to see the need for pressure relief on exhalation w/the autoPAPs unless one does REALLY have a very high set pressure.

The new Sandman Info and Sandman Auto are sounding interesting and are due to be introduced to North America soon. And only 2.6 lbs complete certainly sounds enticing! Plus they are fully data capable.

Bearded_One · Post by **Bearded_One** » Fri May 23, 2008 7:25 pm

I have the non-auto IntelliPAP and is a very nice CPAP. Smallish, very quiet, no power brick, the auto off and auto on actually work right, no obnoxious lights, very well built,

Fredman · Post by **Fredman** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:16 pm

shilocane is right about the EPR (Exhalation Pressure Relief) and the software, I believe the sofware just provides compliance (how many days and hours used per day).

I am interested in this machine big time, because it is the quietest and one of the smallest. But I am used to EPR and like having software to analyze evening sleep events in terms of leak rates, AHIs, and Hypopneas and Apnea events. These tell us how well our therapy is working. Otherwise the only way to tell is to have another sleep lab titration or one of those one night take home units (apparantly not as good as a sleep lab test!).

I am hoping dearly that in 2.5 years that this unit will have EPR and sleep software...I really like the size and the quietness. It's about 5 decibels quieter than most machiens and that is considerable.

So if you need to buy a machine on your own, there are better especially if you want the EPR (makes it easier to breathe out - you don't have to push out the exhalation)but if your sleep therapy is works out well and you have access to a Respiratory Technologist that is really good and is willing to work with you, the Devilbiss will be fine. Unfortunately those with Insurance plans that specify a mandatory service provider (DME) they often don't have much choice on a machine nor on masks. You do and it is your dime so choose wisely. See if the DME you are working with are willing to let you try a few machines and masks. Actually try the mask at home, that is the true test.

I suggest that APAP is the way to go with a smartcard so that you can analyze your sleep events. Then again you need to work with your RT and Sleep Doctor. I also love the Mirage Activa nasal mask by Resmed as it allows the mask to move side to side - especially important for a side sleeper. But if you been around long enough, you will know that not everyone has the same sucsess with a mask. What works for one person, won't work with the next.

Good luck and keep working at this...once you have it all worked out you will feel better and it is worth the effort!!!

Bearded_One · Post by **Bearded_One** » Sat May 24, 2008 12:47 pm

Otherwise the only way to tell is to have another sleep lab titration or one of those one night take home units (apparantly not as good as a sleep lab test!).

I use an IntelliPAP almost all of the time; I use an auto-M or 420E occasionally to verify my titration. I hate having to use either of these autoPAPs because they are noisy.

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Sun May 25, 2008 8:53 am

Goshes, BeardedOne, you must be super sensitive to noise or awful darn unlucky to have gotten both a noisey 420E AND a noisey M Series auto.

But I'm glad you like and have good things to tell us about that IntelliPAP as I've been quite intrigued by it since I first read about it and saw its picture!

Fredman · Post by **Fredman** » Sun May 25, 2008 12:53 pm

Slinky wrote:But I'm glad you like and have good things to tell us about that IntelliPAP as I've been quite intrigued by it since I first read about it and saw its picture!

Me too Slinky! I like the size and compactness. I occassionaly travel so size IS IMPORTANT

Bearded One you must be super sensitive, the IntelliPap is supposed to run at 26DB that is 5 decibels quieter than most units.

I also like the idea of the humidifier on the bottom, not easy for water to run back into the unit. Another post someone mentioned a unit from Sweden from Breas and their iSleep CPAPs they are pretty cool looking. This is the top of their line and from what I can see has software that you can analyze your sleep therapy.

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Sun May 25, 2008 1:38 pm

I don't know how to post pics, but the Everest2 looks much like the Brias iSleep you've pictured. I saw one briefly at the Mayo Clinci Sleep/CPAP shop in the Subway at Mayo Clinic, Rochester, just last month. I was a bit disappointed there wasn't a lot on display in the shop but I also didn't have the time to talk to anyone there as there were two people there ahead of me w/the two customer reps and I was at Mayo w/a neighbor and we tried to keep in touch or meet up between our appointments.

Arghhh! I also saw a HUGE lying down WHITE tiger, stuffed, w/the most appealing face I was so TEMPTED to buy! $80 but he was so neat. Eh, my grandkids have enough stuffed toys to sink a battleship. But I soooo fell in love w/him. It was easy to walk away, well, relatively easy, due to his price. But ... I sure haven't forgotten him!!!

I was disappointed I couldn't find any neat Mayo T-shirts like I've bought in the past: Mended at Mayo, Repaired in Rochester, etc. I don't know if I just didn't have enough time to hit enough shops or if Mayo and Rochester have lost some of their sense of humor given the "takeover" by the chains and outsiders that have occurred.

No more family owned shops and restaurants and cafes, etc. really close to the Clinic as in the past. The wonderful, comfortable "small town atmosphere" lost to the chains and outsiders and their resulting unhealthy food and high prices. *sigh*

Bearded_One · Post by **Bearded_One** » Sun May 25, 2008 1:59 pm

Slinky, I also have a F-P HC233 that is about as quiet as the IntelliPAP. I returned two brand new 420G's because they were too noisy. After the third 420G, I came to the conclusion that 420G's were loud and operating properly; my 420E and auto M are as loud as the 420G's. I put the autos in a drawer when I use them, which helps quite a bit.

In the 1970's. I used to be able to sleep through loud parties.

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Sun May 25, 2008 2:56 pm

Ah, its those dang used to be's that get us, isn't it. Gads, I used to be able to sleep thru the kids fighting, the TV way loud, etc., etc. and yet hear a newborn puppy "mew" from the basement to our third floor bedroom in the middle of the night and risk breaking my neck to rush down the stairs to see what the problem was or if there even was a problem!!! Selective hearing is what my kids and hubby called it.

My mother had less kind words for it when I was a teenager!!!

Kantsleepright · Post by **Kantsleepright** » Sun May 25, 2008 4:46 pm

hey all I just wanted to say that I am also a newbie. And I chose the intellipap w/ humid. and I have been on it for almost a week,and I dont have any real complaints, I use it in auto mode with a pressure setting of 6 on low side and twenty on high side. And you can adjust them at first to lower levels to help you get used to therapy. my perscribed pressure is 11, which I set it to for use inCPAP mode, so you kinda have two machines in one. This unit will as they say adjust to each and every breath,If more pressure is needed it raises it slowly so you dont get woke up. The software would be nice for us people that need to see it to believe it,But for now I just trust DeVilbiss and their machine to do what they say it will do. And I do feel alot better in the morning,and I don't fight with that snooze button no more. A hope this helps you..... ps I use a RESMED Mirage Quattro F/F and I really like the comfort and ease of disassembly too.

Fredman · Post by **Fredman** » Sun May 25, 2008 5:35 pm

Welcome Kantsleepright, thanks for your experience with the Intellipap.

Feedback is really important in this forum as we learn from each other. The software is not critical and not everyone reads their sleep results. You will find depending upon the DME (the folks that sold you your unit) and RT (Respiratory Technologist) that you will either have really good support or poor support and assistance.

For the most part when therapy is working well and if you get regular checks from your RT (and some are better than others!) you won't really need software, but there are a quite a few of us who want to know on a weekly and some daily basis how things are going so we can control or ensure that we are getting the best treatment.

Much like Diabetics that monitor their blood glucose, or people with High Blood Pressure, the software allows us to monitor our health. My DME only called me 2 years after having the machine. What does that tell you? Don't feel that it is critical for you to go out and buy the software etc if the Intellipap is capable of this, just keep reading the forums and the information will be of great help to you.

I encourage you to edit your profile and add your equipment to your profile. It helps if you have any questions. The Text version is best, the picture equipment profiles look cool, but the text is easier for everyone to see. Anyways keep visiting and by all means post any questions you have...there is tons of experience here!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:56 pm

Quick update - DeVilbiss Healthcare will be launching SmartLink software for the IntelliPAP Auto Adjust as well as an enhanced SmartCode in late October. Both of which provide detailed usage data.

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