I finally received a Respironics M Series Pro CPAP with C-Flex today, ( Respironics Model #DS400"S" ) which was delivered and set up by a DME today; DME #3 to be exact only after DME's #1 and #2 wouldn't agree to do it.
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Good for you! Hang in there! My first machine was a "M" Pro, now deligated to my recliner/back-up but it is a good machine!
Ain't it fun when we finally get what we need after all the fighting and frustration. Grrrrrrr!
Jerry
Ain't it fun when we finally get what we need after all the fighting and frustration. Grrrrrrr!
Jerry
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Re: Respironics M Series Pro CPAP with C-Flex - DS400"
Yes it is but it was beginning to get the best of me but I've got one now and I plan to use it tonight. CPAP machine technology certainly has changed since I received my first CPAP which was a Sullivan Series V back in the late 90's.
Re: Respironics M Series Pro CPAP with C-Flex - DS400"
After 4 months of dealings and pushing papers amongst 3 DME's, taking many peoples advice on this board from day number one to try to do whatever was necessary to get a "data capable" machine, to not give up the fight against the mighty DME's and to not get discouraged when dealing with the mighty DME's, I finally received a "data capable" machine earlier today.
I have been gone from this forum for quite sometime dealing with this mess, it started with the first DME back in January 2008 who treated me with a condescending attitude; telling me this is the only machine you're going to get from us because of your insurance, take it or leave it, I told them they could keep their DS100 and I'd leave so I decided to try another DME. DME #2 wasn't much better and DME #1 but DME #2 managed to keep me totally in the dark for more than a month until one day I decided to check on the status of my paperwork with them through my insurance only to discover there was no status, nothing had been filed which I would find out later that DME #2 never intended to file, they intended to do the paperwork shuffle.
I would find out later that their decision not to proceed with any paperwork on my behalf was solely based upon their decision not to want to do so because my 9 year old CPAP machine still worked but they did tell me to come back and see them if my old CPAP machine finally did quit working. So in early March 2008 I started dealing with a third DME who didn't promise me anything but did tell me they would see what they could do and in less than one month's time the third DME came through for me with a new CPAP machine. It wasn't a Respironics DS100 or a DS200 but a M Series Pro DS400S.
I considered that a major accomplishment on my part taking into full account all that I have gone through in dealing with these three DME's these last several months. Given the fact that my insurance wasn't five star insurance and the uphill battle I faced all along the way to get to where I am today. I could have whipped out a major credit card and bought a machine myself but I decided instead to work the system.
I wanted to work the system until I was able to find a provider who would agree to work with me and my insurance in an attempt to help me get the machine I wanted. That in itself was a major accomplishment on my part and should be a message to others out there who might be faced with a similar situation to not get discouraged and to not give up the fight as long as you have the patience and the will to continue the fight because in the end you might just prevail. Can anyone say amen?
I have been gone from this forum for quite sometime dealing with this mess, it started with the first DME back in January 2008 who treated me with a condescending attitude; telling me this is the only machine you're going to get from us because of your insurance, take it or leave it, I told them they could keep their DS100 and I'd leave so I decided to try another DME. DME #2 wasn't much better and DME #1 but DME #2 managed to keep me totally in the dark for more than a month until one day I decided to check on the status of my paperwork with them through my insurance only to discover there was no status, nothing had been filed which I would find out later that DME #2 never intended to file, they intended to do the paperwork shuffle.
I would find out later that their decision not to proceed with any paperwork on my behalf was solely based upon their decision not to want to do so because my 9 year old CPAP machine still worked but they did tell me to come back and see them if my old CPAP machine finally did quit working. So in early March 2008 I started dealing with a third DME who didn't promise me anything but did tell me they would see what they could do and in less than one month's time the third DME came through for me with a new CPAP machine. It wasn't a Respironics DS100 or a DS200 but a M Series Pro DS400S.
I considered that a major accomplishment on my part taking into full account all that I have gone through in dealing with these three DME's these last several months. Given the fact that my insurance wasn't five star insurance and the uphill battle I faced all along the way to get to where I am today. I could have whipped out a major credit card and bought a machine myself but I decided instead to work the system.
I wanted to work the system until I was able to find a provider who would agree to work with me and my insurance in an attempt to help me get the machine I wanted. That in itself was a major accomplishment on my part and should be a message to others out there who might be faced with a similar situation to not get discouraged and to not give up the fight as long as you have the patience and the will to continue the fight because in the end you might just prevail. Can anyone say amen?
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jerry
Jerry
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I still play Cowboys and Bad Guys but now I use real bullets. CAS
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Re: Respironics M Series Pro CPAP with C-Flex - DS400"
Jerry:
Thanks again for the post. I've noticed several other members have also view my thread but unlike you have chosen not to post. For whatever it's worth what I was able to accomplish after these past several months in my opinion was substantial given the facts as I posted earlier.
Thanks again for the post. I've noticed several other members have also view my thread but unlike you have chosen not to post. For whatever it's worth what I was able to accomplish after these past several months in my opinion was substantial given the facts as I posted earlier.
congrats......I wish all dme's would look at the satisfaction of their patients in addition to the bottom line....they both can be good!
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If I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't have luck at all!
I think it is great, that you WON. My story was similiar to yours. I used my first non-data machine for a month before I got up the guts to start my own fight. My first DME was not a nice gal and after I told her that my own doc would write me a script for the machine I wanted, she in turn called him to tell him I did NOT NEED that particular machine... . My doc thought she sounded like a nut. So, at that point, I returned my machine to her and went to another one. This time with a script telling them exactly what machine I wanted! They were out of that particular model and gave me my Resp. A/flex. That was the machine I really did want, but had decided not to push my luck and ask for it.... In the end I was very proud of myself for fighting and firing the first nasty DME and finding another one who is actually patient friendly.
Brooke
Re: Respironics M Series Pro CPAP with C-Flex - DS400"
I'm glad your situation worked out as well because if mine hadn't I was running out of DME's. DME #3 was my last DME to work with and fortunately everything managed to work itself out. I used the new machine for the first time last night, the blue lights on the top glowing in the dark didn't bother me as much as the swooshing sound that the machine made every time I inhaled and exhaled. I will have to get use to that. It kind of reminded me of a respirator in a hospital, the up and down sound you hear when you breathe.
Also at first with the C-Flex setting on "3" I seemed to be having trouble breathing, it felt like a ton of air rushing into my body, the pressure setting on the new machine is 18cm H2O, when the RT was here yesterday showing me all of the features on the new machine I asked her to check the pressure on my old machine which I had reset to 18cm H2O back in January 2008 at DME #1's office and my old machine's setting yesterday was still on 18cm H2O but the new machine felt much stronger. I thought for a minute I was going to have to hook up my old machine just to get some sleep but I went ahead and toughed it out and slept with the new machine last night. Thanks for your comments.
Also at first with the C-Flex setting on "3" I seemed to be having trouble breathing, it felt like a ton of air rushing into my body, the pressure setting on the new machine is 18cm H2O, when the RT was here yesterday showing me all of the features on the new machine I asked her to check the pressure on my old machine which I had reset to 18cm H2O back in January 2008 at DME #1's office and my old machine's setting yesterday was still on 18cm H2O but the new machine felt much stronger. I thought for a minute I was going to have to hook up my old machine just to get some sleep but I went ahead and toughed it out and slept with the new machine last night. Thanks for your comments.
18 cm pressure? and they fought to get you to get a replacement machine for a 8 year old machine they should have replaced at 5?
You should have demanded a Bipap machine from your doctor and gotten some exhale relief. If your doctor was any good at all they would have gone to bat for you, this is an example of the sad mess our medical system is in.
We pay some of the highest costs in the World and get worse treatment.
I watched a PBS show Frontline last night, it evaluated the medical systems in other countries compared to the USA, which ranks 37th in the world,
The British rank #1 in the world with NHS and their overall medical care costs half of what it does in the US, if you are unemployed there your medical continues.
Japan which ranks #2 is also good. In Japan, a hospital stay in a semi-private room (1-4 patients) costs $10 per night, if you want a private room it costs $90 per night.
I wish our medical system would implode blow up or go away where they can start over cause it ain't working.
They should take a model found in other countries that works like the Brits and scrap this mess.
They interviewed one GP doctor in Britain who screens patients before they can see a specialist, if he keeps his patients healthy they pay him more, he currently makes double what US doctors earn.
While no system is perfect, there are many much better than ours.
You should have demanded a Bipap machine from your doctor and gotten some exhale relief. If your doctor was any good at all they would have gone to bat for you, this is an example of the sad mess our medical system is in.
We pay some of the highest costs in the World and get worse treatment.
I watched a PBS show Frontline last night, it evaluated the medical systems in other countries compared to the USA, which ranks 37th in the world,
The British rank #1 in the world with NHS and their overall medical care costs half of what it does in the US, if you are unemployed there your medical continues.
Japan which ranks #2 is also good. In Japan, a hospital stay in a semi-private room (1-4 patients) costs $10 per night, if you want a private room it costs $90 per night.
I wish our medical system would implode blow up or go away where they can start over cause it ain't working.
They should take a model found in other countries that works like the Brits and scrap this mess.
They interviewed one GP doctor in Britain who screens patients before they can see a specialist, if he keeps his patients healthy they pay him more, he currently makes double what US doctors earn.
While no system is perfect, there are many much better than ours.
someday science will catch up to what I'm saying...
Re: Respironics M Series Pro CPAP with C-Flex - DS400"
I did discuss a Bipap machine with my doctor back in December 2007 when I met with him for the first time after undergoing my 2 night study in October 2007 and he showed me in my sleep lab report where the lab's doctor dictated that I was successfully titrated on CPAP at 18cm H20.
My doctor then went on to say for me to qualify for Bipap I would have to undergo a second study but the RT who brought my machine out to me yesterday told me if I had trouble tolerating the new CPAP machine with C-Flex at 18cm H2O I could qualify for Bipap without undergoing another test if my doctor would sign off on it and my insurance too.
I confirmed that information months ago from my insurance. As I stated previously today I had some problems tolerating the new machine at 18 last night. If I had been on a Bipap how exactly does that work? Also is that swooshing sound I described in a previous post, the up and down sound I heard last night while I started to go to sleep on that DS400S, was that sound related to the C-Flex feature? Can the C-Flex feature be turned off so the machine will act like a straight CPAP?
If I had been sleeping on a DS100 straight CPAP would I have also encountered that up and down swooshing sound, much like being on a hospital's respirator as I breathed on the machine last night? That was more annoying to me than those glowing blue neon lights on top of the machine last night. Thank you for your comments.
My doctor then went on to say for me to qualify for Bipap I would have to undergo a second study but the RT who brought my machine out to me yesterday told me if I had trouble tolerating the new CPAP machine with C-Flex at 18cm H2O I could qualify for Bipap without undergoing another test if my doctor would sign off on it and my insurance too.
I confirmed that information months ago from my insurance. As I stated previously today I had some problems tolerating the new machine at 18 last night. If I had been on a Bipap how exactly does that work? Also is that swooshing sound I described in a previous post, the up and down sound I heard last night while I started to go to sleep on that DS400S, was that sound related to the C-Flex feature? Can the C-Flex feature be turned off so the machine will act like a straight CPAP?
If I had been sleeping on a DS100 straight CPAP would I have also encountered that up and down swooshing sound, much like being on a hospital's respirator as I breathed on the machine last night? That was more annoying to me than those glowing blue neon lights on top of the machine last night. Thank you for your comments.
Re: Respironics M Series Pro CPAP with C-Flex - DS400"
[quote="stevoreno"]I did discuss a Bipap machine with my doctor back in December 2007 when I met with him for the first time after undergoing my 2 night study in October 2007 and he showed me in my sleep lab report where the lab's doctor dictated that I was successfully titrated on CPAP at 18cm H20.
My doctor then went on to say for me to qualify for Bipap I would have to undergo a second study but the RT who brought my machine out to me yesterday told me if I had trouble tolerating the new CPAP machine with C-Flex at 18cm H2O I could qualify for Bipap without undergoing another test if my doctor would sign off on it and my insurance too.
I confirmed that information months ago from my insurance. As I stated previously today I had some problems tolerating the new machine at 18 last night. If I had been on a Bipap how exactly does that work? Also is that swooshing sound I described in a previous post, the up and down sound I heard last night while I started to go to sleep on that DS400S, was that sound related to the C-Flex feature? Can the C-Flex feature be turned off so the machine will act like a straight CPAP?
If I had been sleeping on a DS100 straight CPAP would I have also encountered that up and down swooshing sound, much like being on a hospital's respirator as I breathed on the machine last night? That was more annoying to me than those glowing blue neon lights on top of the machine last night. Thank you for your comments.
My doctor then went on to say for me to qualify for Bipap I would have to undergo a second study but the RT who brought my machine out to me yesterday told me if I had trouble tolerating the new CPAP machine with C-Flex at 18cm H2O I could qualify for Bipap without undergoing another test if my doctor would sign off on it and my insurance too.
I confirmed that information months ago from my insurance. As I stated previously today I had some problems tolerating the new machine at 18 last night. If I had been on a Bipap how exactly does that work? Also is that swooshing sound I described in a previous post, the up and down sound I heard last night while I started to go to sleep on that DS400S, was that sound related to the C-Flex feature? Can the C-Flex feature be turned off so the machine will act like a straight CPAP?
If I had been sleeping on a DS100 straight CPAP would I have also encountered that up and down swooshing sound, much like being on a hospital's respirator as I breathed on the machine last night? That was more annoying to me than those glowing blue neon lights on top of the machine last night. Thank you for your comments.
someday science will catch up to what I'm saying...
Re: Respironics M Series Pro CPAP with C-Flex - DS400"
Has she gotten use to that sound? I don't know if I will or not but I don't think I have much choice since I have the machine now and used it for the first time last night. It must be the C-Flex because my old Sullivan straight CPAP doesn't make that kind of noise. I certainly missed the sound of my old machine last night, that constant, steady sound, not the sound of a hospital's respirator but a steady, constant sound but I'm going to stick with the DS400S now. Thanks for your comments.
Re: Respironics M Series Pro CPAP with C-Flex - DS400"
[quote="Snoredog"][quote="stevoreno"]I did discuss a Bipap machine with my doctor back in December 2007 when I met with him for the first time after undergoing my 2 night study in October 2007 and he showed me in my sleep lab report where the lab's doctor dictated that I was successfully titrated on CPAP at 18cm H20.
My doctor then went on to say for me to qualify for Bipap I would have to undergo a second study but the RT who brought my machine out to me yesterday told me if I had trouble tolerating the new CPAP machine with C-Flex at 18cm H2O I could qualify for Bipap without undergoing another test if my doctor would sign off on it and my insurance too.
I confirmed that information months ago from my insurance. As I stated previously today I had some problems tolerating the new machine at 18 last night. If I had been on a Bipap how exactly does that work? Also is that swooshing sound I described in a previous post, the up and down sound I heard last night while I started to go to sleep on that DS400S, was that sound related to the C-Flex feature? Can the C-Flex feature be turned off so the machine will act like a straight CPAP?
If I had been sleeping on a DS100 straight CPAP would I have also encountered that up and down swooshing sound, much like being on a hospital's respirator as I breathed on the machine last night? That was more annoying to me than those glowing blue neon lights on top of the machine last night. Thank you for your comments.
My doctor then went on to say for me to qualify for Bipap I would have to undergo a second study but the RT who brought my machine out to me yesterday told me if I had trouble tolerating the new CPAP machine with C-Flex at 18cm H2O I could qualify for Bipap without undergoing another test if my doctor would sign off on it and my insurance too.
I confirmed that information months ago from my insurance. As I stated previously today I had some problems tolerating the new machine at 18 last night. If I had been on a Bipap how exactly does that work? Also is that swooshing sound I described in a previous post, the up and down sound I heard last night while I started to go to sleep on that DS400S, was that sound related to the C-Flex feature? Can the C-Flex feature be turned off so the machine will act like a straight CPAP?
If I had been sleeping on a DS100 straight CPAP would I have also encountered that up and down swooshing sound, much like being on a hospital's respirator as I breathed on the machine last night? That was more annoying to me than those glowing blue neon lights on top of the machine last night. Thank you for your comments.