ResScan 3.5 - Disk arrived - Installed OK On Vista!

billbolton · Post by **billbolton** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:01 am

The disk from ResScan arrived in the post this morning. It turned out to be labelled ResScan 3.5 rather than ResScan 4.0 as I'd been advised last year was likely.

To cut to the chase, it has installed and works as expected under both Vista Ultimate x86 (32 bit) and Vista Ultimate x64 (64 bit).

I was also able to import all my Autoscan 5.7 data into ResScan 3.5 without any problems.

I had trouble with the ACS reader install utility on my Vista x86 system, it went into a "not responding" mode shortly after starting the driver installation. Eventually I gave up on trying to use it and let Vista go a find a device driver for itself, which it downloaded and installed without any problem.

I'll try installing it on an XP system later in the week.

Cheers,

Bill

GagReflex · Post by **GagReflex** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:02 am

Hi Bill,
How did you manage to get a copy?... I bought my ver 3.3 copy just over a month ago, any idea if this is a free upgrade? (ok, so I'm not holding my breath for that)

Apart from the Vista compatibility, any other changes to the software?

Thanks..

freepostg · Post by **freepostg** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:30 am

Hi Bill,
Did you order direct from Resmed or from cpap.com? thanks

billbolton · Post by **billbolton** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:32 pm

Sorry, I have have no information on how Resmed distributes its software, or updates, outside of Australia. You need to ask whoever you purchased it from how that works.

I have also been able to install version 3.5 on my one remaining XP system

Cheers,

Bill

GagReflex · Post by **GagReflex** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:25 am

Ooops sorry Bill, I've now updated my profile.. I'm in Melbourne

bigk not logged in · Post by **bigk not logged in** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:07 am

I phoned Resmed in Sydney yesterday (Sleepvantage) and asked for Technical support. I asked them about th enew vista compatible version - they asked me what version I currently had and immediately asked for my name and address and mailed me a CD.

Obviously I'm in Australia.

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:12 am

Ach! You doggone Aussies!!! How big is your AS 5.7 file that you imported in to RS 3.5, BillBolton?

I've had no luck trying to import my AS 5.7 file into RS 3.4 but I believe it is because my AS 5.7 file is too large. Instead of weekly or monthly files I've kept one running file so almost every night sinc 09 Oct 02 is in that As 5.7 file.

I haven't figured out a way to break up that file into several smaller files. I'm not real wild about RS 3.4 yet. I think I liked the way AS 5.7 stored data, etc. better but .... maybe w/time.

billbolton · Post by **billbolton** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:37 pm

Slinky wrote:I've had no luck trying to import my AS 5.7 file into RS 3.4 but I believe it is because my AS 5.7 file is too large. Instead of weekly or monthly files I've kept one running file so almost every night sinc 09 Oct 02 is in that As 5.7 file.

I'm not on the system that has my AS 5.7 file on it right now so I can't tell you the file specific file size, but it contains daily detailed data from early July 2007.

Slinky wrote: I'm not real wild about RS 3.4 yet. I think I liked the way AS 5.7 stored data, etc. better but .... maybe w/time.

Like anything that is different it will take a while to get used to, but some features of ResScan I like better already, such as being able to overwrite detailed data for a recent day.

Yesterday I awoke feeling very light-headed/dizzy. After initially getting up and transferring my S8 data into both AS 5.7 and ResScan 3.5, I decided that I wasn't up to working, so I went back to bed and ended up sleeping for another 3 hours. Autoscan wont let me get that extra 3 hours of data in, no matter what I do, but ResScan allowed me to overwrite the existing data for the "day" (after prompting me to make sure that's what I really want to do) so I could capture all of the sleep data for that "day".

ResScan also gives an indication of the duration hypopneas, which AutoScan doesn't.

Cheers,

Bill

sleepyguy1 · Post by **sleepyguy1** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:05 pm

I have version 3.04.007

Will that load on Vista?

Velbor · Post by **Velbor** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:15 pm

billbolton wrote:ResScan also gives an indication of the duration (of) hypopneas, which AutoScan doesn't.

Bill,

Are you sure of this? My impression is that both programs do show a "representation" of hypopnea "frequency," but not duration, though each in a different manner.

My observation is based on Excel "exports" of apnea and hypopnea data from AutoScan 5.7. Apneas are identified by time as the "minute" of occurrence, and a duration in seconds. I have seen as many as three apnea instances within the same one minute "epoch", and perhaps there could be more.

Similarly (though I rarely have looked in detail at hypopnea data), I have seen two hypopneas listed as occurring during the same "minute", and have no reason to think that there could not be more. I have also seen combinations of as many as three apneas and hypopneas within the same minute. But unlike apneas, which always have a duration of at least ten seconds (and presumably could be as much as 60 seconds), hypopneas always appear with a "zero" duration.

Since the same data card from the same generator goes into either program, and assuming (hoping?) that the AutoScan export function shows me everything that the card collects, I suspect that there is no hypopnea "duration" collected on the ResScan smartcard.

AutoScan appears to display the hypopneas as an "uptick" in the blue graph line, which then resets to zero each hour of therapy. Thus AutoScan appears to be counting the number of hypopneas each minute, cumulating them for each hour.

ResScan appears to display an identical square box for each hypopnea event, but my interpretation is that this carries no information about event "duration". Where the boxes stretch out into a rectangle, I understand that to be displaying several consecutive minute "epochs" during which one or more hypopnea events occurred, again showing "frequency" but again giving no information about the duration of each hypopnea event. What we can see more clearly are "runs" of hypopneas, and thus the "duration" of a hypopnea "run." AutoScan shows this also, but less clearly, and perhaps conflated with apneas when they occur together, in the slope of the AHI line.

I think that the two software packages are displaying the same information, that is, frequency, but no information about hypopnea duration, though each using a different visual representation.

Would appreciate your feedback on my interpretation.

Regards, Velbor

bigk · Post by **bigk** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:12 am

OK this new version 3.5 reports itself as v 03.05.010 when installed is the first release compatible with Vista.

It supports new flow generators.

It has a new quickstart option that guides the user through - it will identify the FG serial number and automatically open up the patient with that FG for example.

Defaults to downloading summary data only.

Supports Vista

Report functionality enhancements including not duplicating detailed data.

Average daily usage over total time used is now available in statistics.

It installed on Vista and the card reader also installed and it worked right off. I copied the patient files from Resscan 3.3 and it read it straight in.

freepostg · Post by **freepostg** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:22 am

good stuff, I look forward to this version being avail. in the U.S and Canada hopefully soon.

BarryKaraoke · Post by **BarryKaraoke** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:11 am

Bill,

Other than vista compatibility is their any added functionality in 3.5? New features, etc?

billbolton · Post by **billbolton** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:33 pm

BarryKaraoke wrote:Other than vista compatibility is their any added functionality in 3.5? New features, etc?

See here viewtopic.php?p=260251#260251 (above)

Cheers,

Bill

zorrro13 · Post by **zorrro13** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:45 pm

Velbor wrote:
billbolton wrote:ResScan also gives an indication of the duration (of) hypopneas, which AutoScan doesn't.
Bill,

Are you sure of this? My impression is that both programs do show a "representation" of hypopnea "frequency," but not duration, though each in a different manner.

My observation is based on Excel "exports" of apnea and hypopnea data from AutoScan 5.7. Apneas are identified by time as the "minute" of occurrence, and a duration in seconds. I have seen as many as three apnea instances within the same one minute "epoch", and perhaps there could be more.

Similarly (though I rarely have looked in detail at hypopnea data), I have seen two hypopneas listed as occurring during the same "minute", and have no reason to think that there could not be more. I have also seen combinations of as many as three apneas and hypopneas within the same minute. But unlike apneas, which always have a duration of at least ten seconds (and presumably could be as much as 60 seconds), hypopneas always appear with a "zero" duration.

Since the same data card from the same generator goes into either program, and assuming (hoping?) that the AutoScan export function shows me everything that the card collects, I suspect that there is no hypopnea "duration" collected on the ResScan smartcard.

AutoScan appears to display the hypopneas as an "uptick" in the blue graph line, which then resets to zero each hour of therapy. Thus AutoScan appears to be counting the number of hypopneas each minute, cumulating them for each hour.

ResScan appears to display an identical square box for each hypopnea event, but my interpretation is that this carries no information about event "duration". Where the boxes stretch out into a rectangle, I understand that to be displaying several consecutive minute "epochs" during which one or more hypopnea events occurred, again showing "frequency" but again giving no information about the duration of each hypopnea event. What we can see more clearly are "runs" of hypopneas, and thus the "duration" of a hypopnea "run." AutoScan shows this also, but less clearly, and perhaps conflated with apneas when they occur together, in the slope of the AHI line.

I think that the two software packages are displaying the same information, that is, frequency, but no information about hypopnea duration, though each using a different visual representation.

Would appreciate your feedback on my interpretation.

Regards, Velbor

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