Resmed vs. Respironics - Help

[-SWS]

Algorithm changes could also explain some of the weird/missing data folks have posted about with the M-series. (I had to say that, -SWS. )

LOL! I agree with that speculation, Bill.

And that Remstar reporting bug kind of reminds me of the PB420e data reporting bug that ozij discovered a while back. Amazing that neither bug seems to be fixed yet (though, I could be wrong about that last statement).

My own guess is that the CPAP companies feel the fix-related expenditures yield no positive impact on revenue. Of course, in any other "real world" industry those bugs would have been long ago fixed. Oh well... .

Okay... speaking of software bugs, that was me accidentally guested above! .

[Needsdecaf]

Self Adjusting CPAP Comparison Chart:
https://www.cpap.com/cpap-compare-chart ... sting-CPAP

I noted in this chart for the integrated Humidifier, that the heated and passover categories for the Respironics are listed as different. Can't the HH be used for passover, or is there a different device?

[NightHawkeye]

Can't the HH be used for passover, or is there a different device?

HH can always be used as passover by removing power, but passover can't ever be used as HH.

Regards,
Bill (with an acute sense of the obvious this morning)

[Needsdecaf]

Can't the HH be used for passover, or is there a different device?

HH can always be used as passover by removing power, but passover can't ever be used as HH.

Regards,
Bill (with an acute sense of the obvious this morning)

[ozij]

A passover humidifier has a much larger water surface than a heated one, since all the humidity has to be produced by the air passing over that surface.

In a heated humidifier, you don't need much surface, since heating does the job.

At the same water temprature, you'll get more humidity from a passover humidifier than you will from the (not heated) heated one.

O.

[NightHawkeye]

A passover humidifier has a much larger water surface than a heated one ...

Not always true! The GoodKnight H2O humidifier, integral with my PB420E, has an extremely large surface area when employed as a passover humidifier, roughly twice the surface area it exhibits when filled with water for heated use.

At any rate, my recommendation would always be to go with the heated humidifier. One can always turn the heat down, or use it strictly as passover. If you buy a passover humidifier though, and it doesn't provide enough humidity to make you comfortable, then you have to buy another unit.

Regards,
Bill

[ozij]

I know the GK H2O - I use it. A passover (dedicated) is larger still.

At any rate, my recommendation would always be to go with the heated humidifier. One can always turn the heat down, or use it strictly as passover. If you buy a passover humidifier though, and it doesn't provide enough humidity to make you comfortable, then you have to buy another unit.

I agree with that: start with a heated one.
O.

[-SWS]

I know the GK H2O - I use it. A passover (dedicated) is larger still.

My best guess is that Bill is saying if he decides to use his HH in passive mode, that he can partially fill it with water to increase the water's surface area.

But I also agree with your generalization, ozij: passive humidifiers, by design, compensate for (thermally related) transfer inefficiencies by employing comparatively large water-surface areas.

I also agree with the advice that heated humidification is definitely the way for most people to go. Ironically I can't stand any humidification when I am on CPAP. (Currently battling trigeminal neuralgia to get back on CPAP ---with etiological light quite possibly at the end of the TN prognosis tunnel for me.)

[ozij]

(Currently battling trigeminal neuralgia to get back on CPAP ---with etiological light quite possibly at the end of the TN prognosis tunnel for me.)


Ouch.
Well, that explains your surprising posting hours.
I hope you feel well soon.

O.

[Needsdecaf]

Another question for those familliar with insurance and CPAP:

What is considered common equipment to issue with an XPAP device? Obviously machine and mask are essential. Humidification is not ESSENTIAL to the working of the device, but essential to compliance for most. Would assume that should be covered?

Software..should I expect this to be covered to as well?

And how many masks?

Thanks!

[Goofproof]

Another question for those familliar with insurance and CPAP:

What is considered common equipment to issue with an XPAP device? Obviously machine and mask are essential. Humidification is not ESSENTIAL to the working of the device, but essential to compliance for most. Would assume that should be covered?

Software..should I expect this to be covered to as well?

And how many masks?

Thanks!

XPAP, mask, and HH should be covered as they are usually necessary.

The software and reader are on you.

Masks are given out one per nose, as needed.

Your INS will be where you have to get the answers for your coverage. Jim

[Hose_Head]

Hose_Head Asked:

For the Respironics M Series Machine, how easy, or difficult is it to remove the integrated humidifier each time you come home, or to reinstall it each time you go travelling? n How does this compare to the S8's easy of changeover from integrated to external HH?


Wulfman Responded:

There are some pictures in this link that shows the M Series Pro and the humidifier tank......separately and together. It's just a modular unit with a lid that opens up to access (insert and remove) the humidifier tank. It looks pretty simple to add or remove. With any external humidifier tank, you have to have a short, separate hose to connect between the machine and the humidifier tank.

https://www.cpap.com/productpage-bundle ... undle.html

Den

and ....
Rested Gal responded:

Actually, in packing for travel there's no need to remove the integrated humidifier from the M series machine. All one needs to do is empty the water chamber and insert it back in place...empty.

The whole thing -- M humidifier and M machine -- can stay together for packing and traveling.

I guess my question wasn't clear. To re-phrase it, for the Respironics M Series, how easy, or difficult, is it to changeover from use of the built in heated humidifier to use of an external Fisher Paykel or similar heater humidifier. My understanding is that the entire HH assembly must be removed. Is this true?

Just today, I've received the results of my first titration study and my doctor has prescribed an APAP. I hadn't anticipated this, so it looks as though I'm in the market for an M Series Auto. I need humidification. I travel a lot. And I'm concerned about humidifier leaks, enough so to want to buy a second, stand alone humidifier for use at home. Is it a viable plan to change from one type of humidifier to the other on a frequent basis?

Hose_Head

[roster]

........

Do you remember that Norelco commercial where the CEO used to say that he liked Norelco shavers so much that he bought the company? .......

Victor Kiam bought Remington because he liked their shavers so much. Norelco was not involved.

[-SWS]

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Do you remember that Norelco commercial where the CEO used to say that he liked Norelco shavers so much that he bought the company? .......

Victor Kiam bought Remington because he liked their shavers so much. Norelco was not involved.

Thanks for that correction, Rooster!!!

P.S. That Tyco toy train company eventually bought Puritan Bennett, though, right??? And the Schick/Gillette conglomeration eventually bought Resmed I think! .

[Wulfman]

........
Do you remember that Norelco commercial where the CEO used to say that he liked Norelco shavers so much that he bought the company? .......

Victor Kiam bought Remington because he liked their shavers so much. Norelco was not involved.

Thanks for that correction, Rooster!!!

P.S. That Tyco toy train company eventually bought Puritan Bennett, though, right??? And the Schick/Gillette conglomeration eventually bought Resmed I think! .

You might want to read these two links about the different "TYCO" companies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyco_Toys

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyco_International

Den