SMALL LIGHTWEIGHT MACHINES, CPAP is Like a BALL and Chain

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
ahujudybear
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Post by ahujudybear » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:49 pm

Hi Terry!

I have been using the GK 425, the BiPAP version of the 420 CPAP/AutoPAP series. I've been using it for about a steady 3 weeks now, without anyone having the software to access data until last week - and we still don't know how to use the software (my therapist left on vacation the day after downloading the info onto her laptop.)

So, to answer your question, at least for the BiPAP version (and I would suspect for any xPAP), Yes, it can be used without having access to the data bank.

- JB


fun_gao

goodknight 420e--nice little cpap-thumbs up

Post by fun_gao » Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:37 pm

hi...i come from the old school...my cpap was bought in 1992. i've been using it to about now when the machine became more noisier and it took a few minutes to actually start on it's own. it's a healthdyne tranquility plus which cost me $1500 back in those days. no humidifier. no apap...what the heck is that?
flash foward 13 years....I just bought a goodknight420e online which cost me about $800. humidifier another $190. I couldn't believe how far the technology have gotten in those years. talking about ball and chain, my old machine was like my early apple II computer. the 420e is like the size of two paper back books. it's great for travel and i use it everyday as my regular machine. first time using the humidifier too, just notice less dried snot in my nose. the 420e is the newest and smallest on the market today.


glassgal
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Post by glassgal » Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:01 pm

Hi TerryFlower51,

I use a PB420e with a NasalAire II interface and it works just fine. I have been on this set up since February 12 this year. I have not used the Breeze, so I cannot compare that for you, but I think that I tried it on at the sleep lab and the hard headgear bothered me. A lot of folks really like the Breeze, though -- so do a search on it. Rested Gal is very knowledgeable and thorough and she really likes the Breeze. YMMV!

If you are interested in the NasalAire II, just be sure to get the prongs in the largest size that you can get into your nose cold. The will warm up quickly and soften and seal much better -- too small is a literal pain -- it moves and hurts the inside of your nose, as well as leaking. So large is better!

Let me know if you want more info on the NA II, or search for posts by me (glassgal) or NasalAire II (try spelling it other ways too!).

The SilverLining software is excellent, and it may be cheaper to buy it bundled with the APAP, but check around on the prices. I got mine from CPAP.COM and the whole thing with mask and shipping to Hawaii (I was on vacation when I got it) was just under $900.00. The price may have changed since then. CPAP.COM has various bundles, and you can probably get the software later if you wish -- or call them -- they are very helpful and good to deal with!

Good luck!

Sleep well,

Jane

PB 420e -- 10-17 cm/H2O
heated humidifier
NasalAireII
Aura that I have deconstructed & am making a
new headgear for.

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rested gal
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Post by rested gal » Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:28 pm

Hi Terry,

You asked:
Can I use the PBGK420E autopap w/out making use of the computer hookup stuff or is it necessary to do that so the machine runs properly?
It's not necessary at all to have software or "computer hookup stuff" for any cpap machine - cpap, autopap, bipap. They run just fine, even from the beginning, without using any software at all.

If you get your machine from a local "DME", they will have already set the machine to your prescription before giving it to you.

If you buy your machine from an online store like cpap.com which requires (as most do) a prescription, they also will already have set the machine to your prescription before shipping it to you.

Either way, the people selling (or renting) a machine to you will usually just do the settings manually -- using the buttons on the machine. They don't even have to use software to "set up" the machine for you in the first place.

I personally want software and will only buy a machine that will give full data, not just "compliance" (hours of use.) But that's just my preference. Software isn't needed to make the machine work.