Candida Albicans and internal mold and fungus

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
vdol52
Posts: 179
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 8:25 am
Location: Orlando

Candida Albicans and internal mold and fungus

Post by vdol52 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:45 am

Recently I have become aware of the benefits of internal cleansing and my hubby and I are an an antifungual diet. I have known about Candida Albinans for 15 or more years but was not aware until recently that our grain supply is compromised with mycotoxins, (fungual toxins). Our corn is a GMO (genetically modified organism and many believe is insafe to consume. Peanuts are loaded with mycotoxins. My husbands doctor just admitted to him yesterday that the food manufacturers buy CIPRO,a high powered antibiotic, and feed it to our chickens and cattle in order to keep down salmonella and e-coli bacteria in our meat supply. Those antibotics go directly into our bodies. He said that is the reason we are becoming increasingly resistant to antibiotics. In order to combat this issue, I'm taking natural antifunguals, caprylic acid, grapefruit seed extract, garlic, pau d arco, oil of oregano.
I consume no sugars, eat low carbs, and only "grass-fed" meats or "free-range meats and mostly organic veggies.

You're probably asking what does this have to do with sleep apnea.
Well, nothing directly, but many of us have other sleep related issues besides sleep apnea. I know I do.

Here is a quote from JAMA that explains.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/292/7/852
Context Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), which affects 11% to 14% of the population, is a puzzling condition with multiple models of pathophysiology including altered motility, visceral hypersensitivity, abnormal brain-gut interaction, autonomic dysfunction, and immune activation. Although no conceptual framework accounts for all the symptoms and observations in IBS, a unifying explanation may exist since 92% of these patients share the symptom of bloating regardless of their predominant complaint.

Evidence Acquisition Ovid MEDLINE was searched through May 2004 for relevant English-language articles beginning with those related to bloating, gas, and IBS. Bibliographies of pertinent articles and books were also scanned for additional suitable citations.

Evidence Synthesis The possibility that small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) may explain bloating in IBS is supported by greater total hydrogen excretion after lactulose ingestion, a correlation between the pattern of bowel movement and the type of excreted gas, a prevalence of abnormal lactulose breath test in 84% of IBS patients, and a 75% improvement of IBS symptoms after eradication of SIBO. Altered gastrointestinal motility and sensation, changed activity of the central nervous system, and increased sympathetic drive and immune activation may be understood as consequences of the host response to SIBO.

Conclusions The gastrointestinal and immune effects of SIBO provide a possible unifying framework for understanding frequent observations in IBS, including postprandial bloating and distension, altered motility, visceral hypersensitivity, abnormal brain-gut interaction, autonomic dysfunction, and immune activation.

Author Affiliation: Division of Gastrointestinal and Liver Diseases, Department of Medicine, Keck School of Medicine, University of Southern California, Los Angeles.
Improving intestinal flora can gradually help a person get better sleep. Excess ammonia, excess histamine, food allergies, low magnesium, and immune system changes are all associated with Candidiasis and they may contribute to the sleep problem.
You might notice that they failed to mention that our meat supply is full of hormones and antibiotics. The reason food manufacturers feed this to the animals is strictly money. To fatten them up. Read the book "WHAT MAKES BREAD RISE" for more information. It all about the money.

(if you're wondering what autonomic dysfunction is, it is an imbalance in the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. If you have trouble falling asleep or staying asleep then that may likely be dysautonomia. It has been described as the sympothetic being the motor and the parasympathetic being the brake. The motor is running at night and the brake is on during the day.

Of course, getting oxygen to the lungs is primary, I'm just a big believer that there are other things affecting our sleep.

Guest

Post by Guest » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:51 am

WOW! Okay, thanks for triggering my hypochondria...

I'm attempting to get there with a slightly gentler version - The Fat Flush Plan. Google that. I can't post links as a Guest, and I can't login from work anymore.

You do bring up some very good points though.

Thanks!!!
Barbara

Guest

Re: Candida Albicans and internal mold and fungus

Post by Guest » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:58 am

vdol52 wrote:The reason food manufacturers feed this to the animals is strictly money. To fatten them up. Read the book "WHAT MAKES BREAD RISE" for more information. It all about the money.
You are absolutely correct. I used to raise heritage poultry (the kind that your great-great-great-great grandparents would have had ... wonderful birds) and it is much easier and cheaper to feed antibiotics to poor quality, inferior stock than it is to breed for good health and robust immune systems. Sadly enough, businesses almost always take the cheap way that makes money in the short run over strategies that benefit themselves and their customers in the long run.

Susan M

vdol52
Posts: 179
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 8:25 am
Location: Orlando

Post by vdol52 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:58 am

I will do that. Sounds interesting.
Thx Victoria

vdol52
Posts: 179
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 8:25 am
Location: Orlando

Post by vdol52 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:01 am

I am all for a capitalistic society, unfortunately this is one of the downsides of capitalism. Our food supply is comprimised and we need to be wise consumers. One of the worst culprits is High Frustose Corn Syrup. It's in Everything.

Sorry for the SOAP BOX

Victoria

Guest

Post by Guest » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:04 am

No, you're right about Corn Syrup. Don't apologize for this thread. It's a good one. People that are interested in this topic will come here. Those that aren't won't.

That's why I started the Natural Cleaning thread. I recognized people who were worried about all the chemicals in their homes and we kept hijacking other threads talking about it.

Good thread! Thanks!!!!
B.

VenDexter
Posts: 20
Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:26 pm
Location: Eastern Oklahoma
Contact:

Post by VenDexter » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:29 am

The only thing that people don't seem to understand is that we as humans have genetically modified food since the first hunter/gatherers learned that they could save the seeds of plants and cultivate them over and over.

The seeds that they planted that produced good offspring were chosen over those that didn't. They didn't know that they were choosing based on genetics but they were.

As far as using antibiotics, etc. with livestock, there is no way that we could produce enough food to feed the earth's population if we didn't. We would have millions starving to death right on our doorstep if we didn't use the awesome products that chemistry/science has given us.

Also, we are not ingesting antibiotics from animals that we consume. Those antibiotics are broken down and eliminated from the animals bodies before we eat them. If, by chance, there were any residue, it is destroyed during the cooking phase. The resistance that we are seeing is from the over use of antibiotics in humans who do not take them correctly.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that all chemicals are great. For example, DDT, which did incredibly well at controlling mosquitos and helped to eliminate malaria in many parts of the world turned out to be an ecological nightmare.

My point is that we need to be careful about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

If you want a good in-depth look at how our modern agricultural practices have benefitted humanity almost beyond comprehension, check out Dr. Norman Borlaug: http://www.agbioworld.org/biotech-info/ ... index.html

vdol52
Posts: 179
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 8:25 am
Location: Orlando

Post by vdol52 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:10 am

Also, we are not ingesting antibiotics from animals that we consume. Those antibiotics are broken down and eliminated from the animals bodies before we eat them. If, by chance, there were any residue, it is destroyed during the cooking phase. The resistance that we are seeing is from the over use of antibiotics in humans who do not take them correctly.


I'm just quoting what my husbands Medical doctor told him yesterday about our government buying Cipro by the tons and his opinion is that is why we are becoming antibiotic resistant. I agree also, that we abuse prescription antibiotics as well, and I personally won't take them unless there is no clear better choice.

Good discussion though, everyone has an opinion and I am so grateful that I live in a country where all can be expressed.

Victoria


Guest

Post by Guest » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:11 am

Thanks for that link, VanDexter! I've been sort of overwhelmed by the "non-GMO" debate. And I used to work for a farm advocacy organization, so I really should be better informed about this issue!!!!

I am most certainly NOT anti-farmer - I come from a long farming tradition. I do wish for more sustainable methods, however, that could both benefit the earth AND the farmer financially. I certainly don't have the answers, I'm still seeking input.

So thanks for weighing in! Great post! Of course, it came from a Okie...
Barbara - formerly of Kingfisher, OK

User avatar
Vader
Posts: 1223
Joined: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:35 pm
Location: Land Of The Free

Re: Candida Albicans and internal mold and fungus

Post by Vader » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:18 am

vdol52 wrote:Recently I have become aware of the benefits of internal cleansing and my hubby and I are an an antifungual diet. I have known about Candida Albinans for 15 or more years but was not aware until recently that our grain supply is compromised with mycotoxins, (fungual toxins). Our corn is a GMO (genetically modified organism and many believe is insafe to consume. Peanuts are loaded with mycotoxins. My husbands doctor just admitted to him yesterday that the food manufacturers buy CIPRO,a high powered antibiotic, and feed it to our chickens and cattle in order to keep down salmonella and e-coli bacteria in our meat supply. Those antibotics go directly into our bodies. He said that is the reason we are becoming increasingly resistant to antibiotics. In order to combat this issue, I'm taking natural antifunguals, caprylic acid, grapefruit seed extract, garlic, pau d arco, oil of oregano.
I consume no sugars, eat low carbs, and only "grass-fed" meats or "free-range meats and mostly organic veggies.

You're probably asking what does this have to do with sleep apnea.
Well, nothing directly, but many of us have other sleep related issues besides sleep apnea. I know I do.

Here is a quote from JAMA that explains.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/292/7/852
Context Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), which affects 11% to 14% of the population, is a puzzling condition with multiple models of pathophysiology including altered motility, visceral hypersensitivity, abnormal brain-gut interaction, autonomic dysfunction, and immune activation. Although no conceptual framework accounts for all the symptoms and observations in IBS, a unifying explanation may exist since 92% of these patients share the symptom of bloating regardless of their predominant complaint.

Evidence Acquisition Ovid MEDLINE was searched through May 2004 for relevant English-language articles beginning with those related to bloating, gas, and IBS. Bibliographies of pertinent articles and books were also scanned for additional suitable citations.

Evidence Synthesis The possibility that small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) may explain bloating in IBS is supported by greater total hydrogen excretion after lactulose ingestion, a correlation between the pattern of bowel movement and the type of excreted gas, a prevalence of abnormal lactulose breath test in 84% of IBS patients, and a 75% improvement of IBS symptoms after eradication of SIBO. Altered gastrointestinal motility and sensation, changed activity of the central nervous system, and increased sympathetic drive and immune activation may be understood as consequences of the host response to SIBO.

Conclusions The gastrointestinal and immune effects of SIBO provide a possible unifying framework for understanding frequent observations in IBS, including postprandial bloating and distension, altered motility, visceral hypersensitivity, abnormal brain-gut interaction, autonomic dysfunction, and immune activation.

Author Affiliation: Division of Gastrointestinal and Liver Diseases, Department of Medicine, Keck School of Medicine, University of Southern California, Los Angeles.
Improving intestinal flora can gradually help a person get better sleep. Excess ammonia, excess histamine, food allergies, low magnesium, and immune system changes are all associated with Candidiasis and they may contribute to the sleep problem.
You might notice that they failed to mention that our meat supply is full of hormones and antibiotics. The reason food manufacturers feed this to the animals is strictly money. To fatten them up. Read the book "WHAT MAKES BREAD RISE" for more information. It all about the money.

(if you're wondering what autonomic dysfunction is, it is an imbalance in the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. If you have trouble falling asleep or staying asleep then that may likely be dysautonomia. It has been described as the sympothetic being the motor and the parasympathetic being the brake. The motor is running at night and the brake is on during the day.

Of course, getting oxygen to the lungs is primary, I'm just a big believer that there are other things affecting our sleep.
Unfortunately the over use of antibiotics prescribed by doctors is a huge factor in the candida ablicans problem today.
An excellent dietary supplement product called SF722, made by Thorne Research, is very beneficial in helping suppress the candida in your body.

There's a good book by Dr. William Crook. called the "Yeast Connection".
Candida Albicans is a much bigger problem than most medical professionals are willing to admit.

_________________
Mask
.









Vader

VenDexter
Posts: 20
Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:26 pm
Location: Eastern Oklahoma
Contact:

Post by VenDexter » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:33 am

Barbara wrote:I am most certainly NOT anti-farmer - I come from a long farming tradition. I do wish for more sustainable methods, however, that could both benefit the earth AND the farmer financially. I certainly don't have the answers, I'm still seeking input. Barbara - formerly of Kingfisher, OK
DING, DING, DING!!! We have a winner! Tell her what she's won Johnny...

That's the ticket right there. It is about balance. The fact that you're looking for input to help you make an informed decision is the key.

Too many activist pull the emotional card and play on peoples' fears and unwillingness to research themselves to find an answer. In turn we get a foreshortened version of mass hysteria where all synthetics are bad and everything "natural" is good. Problem is defining what's "natural". Most synthetics are derived from some natural occuring product so what makes them less natural? Only the fact that they don't occur in nature by themselves or in extremely rare amounts.

In the fairness of balance, I'll give you an example where the use of antibiotics has gone severely awry. Several years ago the Chinese were using an antibiotic in their bees to keep them healthy from nosema that turned up in the honey. Turns out the antibiotic had been found to be a mutagen especially among children. Bad use of antibiotics to increase food yield.

I apologize if I came across in the thread as being a jerk. It wasn't my intention but I have a very skeptical attitude towards a lot of the so-called "naturalism" that people promote without having an idea of what they are promoting.

vdol52
Posts: 179
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 8:25 am
Location: Orlando

Post by vdol52 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:33 am

"
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -Ronald Reagan
Good Quote Vader,

I agree with the quote in part. I do believe that we each have the ultimate responsibility for ourselves and our health.

The parts that I have a problem with is the various lobbys that affect the decision making process in this country, FDA, AMA, BIG PHARMA.

Let's take our power back from government and be proactive about our health and our life.

Victoria :


User avatar
tomjax
Posts: 1093
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:20 am
Contact:

C albicans

Post by tomjax » Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:00 pm

C Albicans folks make a splash every once in a while.

This scare has been going on for many years and IMHO, is a bunch of BS.
The alternative med and natural and health food folks will tuns in with all sorts of testimonials and quote all sorts of worlds greatest experts.
Sometimes they find a doc who buys into this and away they go.

Bring it on.
Still does not take away from the fact that it is pure BS..

Take a nickels worth of facts, add a potful of scare tactics and spin and away they go.
tom

User avatar
Vader
Posts: 1223
Joined: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:35 pm
Location: Land Of The Free

Re: C albicans

Post by Vader » Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:13 pm

tomjax wrote:
Still does not take away from the fact that it is pure BS..
Well as long as you're dealing with "facts", do you have any "facts" that prove that it's BS?

_________________
Mask
.









Vader

User avatar
Vader
Posts: 1223
Joined: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:35 pm
Location: Land Of The Free

Post by Vader » Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:19 pm

vdol52 wrote:"
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -Ronald Reagan
Good Quote Vader,

Of course. The Gipper was a GREAT leader.
Sure wish he was the man in charge, today...

_________________
Mask
.









Vader