Sooo tired
Sooo tired
I have been on the cpap machine for over a month now and either feel real hoarse or have a terrible headache. I was given a chin strap because my mouth was coming open. I hear how everybody says the machine helps, but I think its gotten worse as far as feeling so tired. Thanks for any help.
Welcome!
If you don't mind, let us know what type and brand name machine you have and the brand of the mask. That will help us help you.
Have the chin straps helped yet? You may still be breathing through your mouth, and that's a problem because you're not getting the benefit from the treatment that way, if you are breathing with your mouth. There are full face masks that cover both nose and mouth, for mouth breathers, and for when your nose is stuffed up and nothing else works. That might help you. Do you have a heated humidifier too? If you are now not breathing through your mouth and you are hoarse, you might have a problem if you don't have a humidifier. The throat gets dried out. Let us know what you have. Lots of people here can help.
Hang in there. Don't give up.
Linda
If you don't mind, let us know what type and brand name machine you have and the brand of the mask. That will help us help you.
Have the chin straps helped yet? You may still be breathing through your mouth, and that's a problem because you're not getting the benefit from the treatment that way, if you are breathing with your mouth. There are full face masks that cover both nose and mouth, for mouth breathers, and for when your nose is stuffed up and nothing else works. That might help you. Do you have a heated humidifier too? If you are now not breathing through your mouth and you are hoarse, you might have a problem if you don't have a humidifier. The throat gets dried out. Let us know what you have. Lots of people here can help.
Hang in there. Don't give up.
Linda
Neetso,
I am fairly new to apap also so I cannot offer a lot of advice. There should be some people on later that can give you great advice. They have helped me a lot. They will want to know what kind of machine you are using, if you have heated humidification, what your pressure is and what kind of mask you are using. If you will post that info now, then when some of the regulars come online, they will be able to offer some advice. Pay close attention to what Rested Gal, Sws, Wader, Mikeus, and most of the regulars have to say, they give invaluable advice. Oh and don't forget Liam, he is always good for a laugh.
Keep posting here, you will get help!
Gilda
I am fairly new to apap also so I cannot offer a lot of advice. There should be some people on later that can give you great advice. They have helped me a lot. They will want to know what kind of machine you are using, if you have heated humidification, what your pressure is and what kind of mask you are using. If you will post that info now, then when some of the regulars come online, they will be able to offer some advice. Pay close attention to what Rested Gal, Sws, Wader, Mikeus, and most of the regulars have to say, they give invaluable advice. Oh and don't forget Liam, he is always good for a laugh.
Keep posting here, you will get help!
Gilda
Linda, I did not mean to imply that you could not give great advice. I must have been typing my reply at the same time you were because no one had answered when I started to respond. I saw that neetso was still online and wanted to make them feel at home.
Again, I DID NOT mean to imply that your advise was not good. I know it looks that way.
Sorry
Gilda
Again, I DID NOT mean to imply that your advise was not good. I know it looks that way.
Sorry
Gilda
No problems, Gilda.
My feelings weren't hurt, honest.
And don't sell yourself short either. I've read your comments, or at least some of them. You contribute great stuff as well. And often it's the newer people who can help the most. When I joined in November, when I started my treatment, some of those who responded to me had only been on this themselves for just a month or so more than me. Yet, they offered such wonderful advice and cheer and kind words which helped me get over the initial shock learning about this treatment. People like Wader, Rested Gal, and others, hadn't been posting long at that time, yet I couldn't have made it through that early stage without them, for real! So everyone contributes, no matter how much or little they know. In my book, Gilda, you are a pro. Most everyone here is so nice and supportive. I owe all of them so much. This includes you as well, I owe you so much too.
Cheers!
Linda,
who thinks Liam is such a funny character!
My feelings weren't hurt, honest.
And don't sell yourself short either. I've read your comments, or at least some of them. You contribute great stuff as well. And often it's the newer people who can help the most. When I joined in November, when I started my treatment, some of those who responded to me had only been on this themselves for just a month or so more than me. Yet, they offered such wonderful advice and cheer and kind words which helped me get over the initial shock learning about this treatment. People like Wader, Rested Gal, and others, hadn't been posting long at that time, yet I couldn't have made it through that early stage without them, for real! So everyone contributes, no matter how much or little they know. In my book, Gilda, you are a pro. Most everyone here is so nice and supportive. I owe all of them so much. This includes you as well, I owe you so much too.
Cheers!
Linda,
who thinks Liam is such a funny character!
Hello everyone. I have a cpap remstar with a heated humidifer.When I first got my cpap it was set to +7 and I was told to set the ramp to 3 and adjust from there. I went to the Dr. and told him how I felt and he raised the pressure +8 and gave me a beautiful chin strap to wear. My mask is the kind just to cover my nose. The dr. gave me the chin strap and said nobody likes a full face mask. The dr. also has sleep apnea. I have been using everything faithfully. I feel so tired and I sleep most of the night. Any advice would be very much appreciated. I just love this forum to read and there are so many caring people out there. Thank you.
Last edited by neetso on Sun May 01, 2005 9:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Feeling tired!
My first thought would be that the ramp is set awfully low - most people have feelings of suffocation below 5. You can also try cranking up your humidifier a little. When I first started, my mouth would be so dry all the time, I could hardly unstick my tongue from the roof of my mouth!!! Thought I was mouthbreathing, got a chinstrap - still had really dry mouth. The air blowing into your throat will just automatically make you dry - which is why you need a heated humidifier. You can also have meds that can make your mouth dry.
Also, check out the Effexor XR on http://www.drugs.com
You will be surprised to read that Effexor can cause sleeping difficulty and can cause daytime drowsiness. Talk to your doctor about changing meds - preferably something that will not compound your problems!!!!!!! And stay off the smoking!! Depending on how long you have smoked, you can have what is commonly referred to as "smokers voice." If it does not clear up, you should see an ENT for a throat exam. Good Luck!
Also, check out the Effexor XR on http://www.drugs.com
You will be surprised to read that Effexor can cause sleeping difficulty and can cause daytime drowsiness. Talk to your doctor about changing meds - preferably something that will not compound your problems!!!!!!! And stay off the smoking!! Depending on how long you have smoked, you can have what is commonly referred to as "smokers voice." If it does not clear up, you should see an ENT for a throat exam. Good Luck!
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neetso, mouth air leaks can be a very big problem for many of us. If treatment air is getting sidetracked and going out into the bedroom instead of down to keep the throat open, a person really isn't getting treatment no matter how many hours they sleep each night, conscientiously using the machine and mask.
For some, a chin strap keeping the lower jaw up is enough to enable the tongue to stay in a position that blocks air from escaping out the mouth. But for many, a chin strap does nothing to achieve a good tongue seal inside the mouth. And the tongue seal is what it's all about.
As others have mentioned, a full face mask (I like the ResMed Ultra Mirage FF) is a good answer - keeps the treatment air going where it's supposed to go, whether air is going in and out of mouth or nose. Either way, a full face mask can get the job done for people who either need to breathe through their mouth, or who leak air out the mouth.
I disagree with the doctor, even if he does have apnea himself, about "nobody" liking full face masks. None of us like any kind of mask. We'd all rather not have to wear any kind of mask at all, but since we do, it's trial and error to find a mask that is reasonably comfortable and still can give good treatment.
Mouth air leaks can absolutely wreck this kind of treatment. Whatever mask you can get along with and will let you get effective treatment is one you will like, regardless of the sweeping pronouncements the good doctor has to say.
While I use my FF mask on congested nights when I really have to breathe through my mouth, I choose to stop my mouth air leaks with tape across my mouth. That lets me use any kind of mask I wish - my favorites being the nasal pillows masks - Aura. Breeze, Swift. I also have an Activa nasal mask (covers the nose) which is excellent.
A woman (nicknamed "frequenseeker") on another message board came up with a way to make plain athletic mouthguards into a device you can wear in your mouth to keep the tongue back to form an airtight seal inside the mouth. You might want to look into that.
On page 3 or thereabouts of the link you can click below, I posted clickable links to a lot of old topics - discussions of trying to stop mouth air leaks and lip puffs, and other ways to try to "train" the tongue to hold a seal on its own.
Topic started by frequenseeker Dec 01 2004 subject: mouth leak solution, cheap DIY oral appliance
For some, a chin strap keeping the lower jaw up is enough to enable the tongue to stay in a position that blocks air from escaping out the mouth. But for many, a chin strap does nothing to achieve a good tongue seal inside the mouth. And the tongue seal is what it's all about.
As others have mentioned, a full face mask (I like the ResMed Ultra Mirage FF) is a good answer - keeps the treatment air going where it's supposed to go, whether air is going in and out of mouth or nose. Either way, a full face mask can get the job done for people who either need to breathe through their mouth, or who leak air out the mouth.
I disagree with the doctor, even if he does have apnea himself, about "nobody" liking full face masks. None of us like any kind of mask. We'd all rather not have to wear any kind of mask at all, but since we do, it's trial and error to find a mask that is reasonably comfortable and still can give good treatment.
Mouth air leaks can absolutely wreck this kind of treatment. Whatever mask you can get along with and will let you get effective treatment is one you will like, regardless of the sweeping pronouncements the good doctor has to say.
While I use my FF mask on congested nights when I really have to breathe through my mouth, I choose to stop my mouth air leaks with tape across my mouth. That lets me use any kind of mask I wish - my favorites being the nasal pillows masks - Aura. Breeze, Swift. I also have an Activa nasal mask (covers the nose) which is excellent.
A woman (nicknamed "frequenseeker") on another message board came up with a way to make plain athletic mouthguards into a device you can wear in your mouth to keep the tongue back to form an airtight seal inside the mouth. You might want to look into that.
On page 3 or thereabouts of the link you can click below, I posted clickable links to a lot of old topics - discussions of trying to stop mouth air leaks and lip puffs, and other ways to try to "train" the tongue to hold a seal on its own.
Topic started by frequenseeker Dec 01 2004 subject: mouth leak solution, cheap DIY oral appliance
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Hi Neetso,
Sorry to hear about your issue. I agree wholeheartedly with Rested Gal. I love my FFM when I am congested, because it lets me get a good night of rest. Your Dr is wrong. I use a ResMed UltraMirage FFM, and although not as comfortable as some nasal masks it is quite comfortable and I sleep quite well in it when it is needed.
Sorry to hear about your issue. I agree wholeheartedly with Rested Gal. I love my FFM when I am congested, because it lets me get a good night of rest. Your Dr is wrong. I use a ResMed UltraMirage FFM, and although not as comfortable as some nasal masks it is quite comfortable and I sleep quite well in it when it is needed.