Goofing off watching stupid TV show on Alien Abductions when I should be mowing the lawn. They are now looking at sleep paralysis and how that happens to folks who claim to be abducted by aliens.
Don't know about you, but that was one of the questions they kept asking me about in my sleep study. I don't remember having sleep paralysis, but apparently it's a big tip off for OSA.
So, thinking about the bad dreams some people have reported here, and listening to people who claim that they are no longer diagnosed as psychotic after undergoing cpap therapy, I'm beginning to see a correlation between Alien Abduction reports and OSA.
What do you think about my latest crazy theory? Right up there with Where Nebraskans Come From?
Cheers,
B.
OSA, Sleep Paralysis and Alien Abductions
OSA, Sleep Paralysis and Alien Abductions
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Re: OSA, Sleep Paralysis and Alien Abductions
HA!Babette wrote:Goofing off watching stupid TV show on Alien Abductions when I should be mowing the lawn. They are now looking at sleep paralysis and how that happens to folks who claim to be abducted by aliens.
Don't know about you, but that was one of the questions they kept asking me about in my sleep study. I don't remember having sleep paralysis, but apparently it's a big tip off for OSA.
So, thinking about the bad dreams some people have reported here, and listening to people who claim that they are no longer diagnosed as psychotic after undergoing cpap therapy, I'm beginning to see a correlation between Alien Abduction reports and OSA.
What do you think about my latest crazy theory? Right up there with Where Nebraskans Come From?
Cheers,
B.
Maybe it's where they GO? (or why they stay THERE?) I was "abducted" 34 years ago and re-deposited into "God's Country".
As far as sleep paralysis goes, in past years (before therapy), if I fell asleep on the couch, I would partially awaken (after a nap) and have the sensation of not being able to move.....it was a horrible sensation and consequently I quit napping on the couch.
Beam me up, Scotty!!!
Den
Dang Den! Why aren't you outside experiencing the joys of 4th of July in Cody?
Forgot to tell you Dad was there last week. Oh well, he's not big fun for strangers, being blind and deaf. Poor thing didn't get a beer for 7 days... He was looking and feeling his best when I picked him up at the airport last night...
I used to have crazy "lucid dreams" or "hallucinations" or whatever you want to call them, when I was just falling asleep. Very stressful. Completely stupid when I relate them to people, but at the time very stressful. The sleep techs all agreed it was a sleep apnea thing.
LOL,
B.
Forgot to tell you Dad was there last week. Oh well, he's not big fun for strangers, being blind and deaf. Poor thing didn't get a beer for 7 days... He was looking and feeling his best when I picked him up at the airport last night...
I used to have crazy "lucid dreams" or "hallucinations" or whatever you want to call them, when I was just falling asleep. Very stressful. Completely stupid when I relate them to people, but at the time very stressful. The sleep techs all agreed it was a sleep apnea thing.
LOL,
B.
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Oh, and it's how Nebraskans came to live in Nebraska. And why they stay there, after they've seen better on TV.
Wyoming I can't explain. Other than there is no major airport anywhere near my sister so it's a real pain for anyone visiting her, which I think is her Master Plan.
LOL,
B.
Wyoming I can't explain. Other than there is no major airport anywhere near my sister so it's a real pain for anyone visiting her, which I think is her Master Plan.
LOL,
B.
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It's just a tad bit WARM here! I go outside every so often to move the garden hose to some different trees I'm trying to keep alive.....no rain for quite some time.Babette wrote:Dang Den! Why aren't you outside experiencing the joys of 4th of July in Cody?
Forgot to tell you Dad was there last week. Oh well, he's not big fun for strangers, being blind and deaf. Poor thing didn't get a beer for 7 days... He was looking and feeling his best when I picked him up at the airport last night...
I used to have crazy "lucid dreams" or "hallucinations" or whatever you want to call them, when I was just falling asleep. Very stressful. Completely stupid when I relate them to people, but at the time very stressful. The sleep techs all agreed it was a sleep apnea thing.
LOL,
B.
A bit of trivia about the Cody "festivities". I think it was 30 years ago this year when John Wayne was the grand marshall of the parade (this year he would have been 100 years old). I was just getting off the night shift (computer operations) and as I came up to one of the main intersections, they stopped all traffic and I had a front-row seat to the parade. I "heard" later that he'd been partying so much the night before that they had to prop him up in the car.
I used to get the lucid dreams when I would have micro-sleeps at my computer screen. I was convinced I had narcolepsy/cataplexy and was SO relieved when diagnosed with OSA. After starting therapy, that all went away.
Den
Aint that (Devels Tower!)were the aliens returned all the abducted persons! LOL!!Babette wrote:Wyoming I can't explain. Other than there is no major airport anywhere near my sister so it's a real pain for anyone visiting her, which I think is her Master Plan.
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HOSEHEADS of America: Striving for that long lost good nights sleep!
HOSEHEADS of America: Striving for that long lost good nights sleep!
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I'd have to ask my ancestors.....who were long-dead before I was born.Babette wrote:Oh, and it's how Nebraskans came to live in Nebraska. And why they stay there, after they've seen better on TV.
Wyoming I can't explain. Other than there is no major airport anywhere near my sister so it's a real pain for anyone visiting her, which I think is her Master Plan.
LOL,
B.
Why they stay is a mystery to me......they must like the humid heat and frigid cold.
WHY-oming? Well, it's not like all those "pilgrims" don't know where it is.....they come to visit Yellowstone, go skiing, hunting and fishing. Many well-to-do folks have seasonal "dwellings" out here....but don't add anything to the economy.
Being in "the middle of nowhere" DOES have some advantages.....for those of us who are so-inclined. I'm not at all comfortable in metropolitan areas.
Den
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Wulfman...
Shhhhhh....... Everybody just THOUGHT that was a movie plot......tuna wrote:Aint that (Devels Tower!)were the aliens returned all the abducted persons! LOL!!Babette wrote:Wyoming I can't explain. Other than there is no major airport anywhere near my sister so it's a real pain for anyone visiting her, which I think is her Master Plan.
Den
Sleep Paralysis is thought to be seen in the early stages of narcolepsy.
But personally I think it can be overcome by simply understanding what it is. I have a friend that has it, she used to have all kinds of problems with it until she understood what it was.
When you fall asleep and reach REM, we have a neurological "switch" that gets flipped that disables all limb movement. It is thought we do this so we don't hurt ourselves acting out on a dream.
In the case with Sleep Paralysis, the person awakens with that switch still turned off, they can open their eyes, but they can't talk or move a muscle. They are basically paralyzed and cannot move yet they are consciously awake. It can be a very frightening experience. But if you understand what it is and simply try and fall back asleep the next time you awaken it will be normal.
Sort of goes back to remembering dreams and not, it seems if you are awaken during REM and the dream, you may remember it, if you are awaken during Non-REM you are less likely to recall that dream.
But personally I think it can be overcome by simply understanding what it is. I have a friend that has it, she used to have all kinds of problems with it until she understood what it was.
When you fall asleep and reach REM, we have a neurological "switch" that gets flipped that disables all limb movement. It is thought we do this so we don't hurt ourselves acting out on a dream.
In the case with Sleep Paralysis, the person awakens with that switch still turned off, they can open their eyes, but they can't talk or move a muscle. They are basically paralyzed and cannot move yet they are consciously awake. It can be a very frightening experience. But if you understand what it is and simply try and fall back asleep the next time you awaken it will be normal.
Sort of goes back to remembering dreams and not, it seems if you are awaken during REM and the dream, you may remember it, if you are awaken during Non-REM you are less likely to recall that dream.
someday science will catch up to what I'm saying...
I am not the one in my family that has been diagnosed with sleep apnea but I am the one that does have a lot of issues with sleep paralysis and lucid dreams. I could totally understand how people think they are being abducted could be experiencing this. I used to think I was loosing it until I stumbled across some research on it. I do things like see giant spiders on the wall, aliens faces in the doorway, you now fun stuff like that! Last week I was convinced there were rats crawling out of our matress.My husnband especially loves when I tell him things like "there is someone in the house!" or "there is a man standing in the corner".It is so scary because my eyes are open and I think I am awake when this happens. It takes me several moments to realize I am dreamimg. In that time I am so scared it takes me hours to fall back asleep. I actually thought we had a ghost as I felt like someone invisible crawled over me and lay down beside me. Talk about scared!! I tend not to talk about this much because people think I have seriously lost it! At least you all get it!
Heather-
Supposedly when we dream or we are in REM state your body is more or less paralyzed to keep you from acting out or attempting to act out your dreams. That is why sleep walkers and such are supposed to have something wrong with their sleep mechanism.
Sylvia Brown (famous psychic) says that the feeling we sometimes have of waking up but being unable to move is because our spirit or soul has been out astral traveling and just didn't get back and settled completely before we woke up. Also the feeling of almost falling asleep and just before you totally get there you wake up with a jerk. She says that is the same thing...your spiritual body is trying to leave on an astral travel excursion before we are completely asleep.
That is not her words totally but the gist of it.
Sylvia Brown (famous psychic) says that the feeling we sometimes have of waking up but being unable to move is because our spirit or soul has been out astral traveling and just didn't get back and settled completely before we woke up. Also the feeling of almost falling asleep and just before you totally get there you wake up with a jerk. She says that is the same thing...your spiritual body is trying to leave on an astral travel excursion before we are completely asleep.
That is not her words totally but the gist of it.
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Sleep paralysis and hypnagogic/hypnapompic hallucinations can be caused by any sort of sleep deprivation, but they are also common symptoms of narcolepsy.
Sleep paralysis is the manifestation of REM atonia (paralysis) while falling asleep or waking, and can be anything from the inability to move a finger, inability to talk/scream, up to near complete immobility. Hypno* hallucinations are manifestations of REM dreaming in various levels of wakefulness. When the two are combined, the experience can be truly awful. Knowing what sleep paralysis is can help when it is experienced in higher levels of wakefulness, but this knowledge doesn't help with the concomittant anxiety it can cause when you're headlong into a violent hypno* hallucination thinking that you are in reality actually experiencing your dream.
Treating sleep apnea doesn't cure narcolepsy which is a neurological disorder, and if any of you all still have residual sleep paralysis or hypno hallucinations after treating sleep apnea then I encourage you to talk with your sleep doctor about it.
Effective REM blocking drugs are available, and I've found one that I like very well.
Good luck to you all in finding your solutions.
Sleep paralysis is the manifestation of REM atonia (paralysis) while falling asleep or waking, and can be anything from the inability to move a finger, inability to talk/scream, up to near complete immobility. Hypno* hallucinations are manifestations of REM dreaming in various levels of wakefulness. When the two are combined, the experience can be truly awful. Knowing what sleep paralysis is can help when it is experienced in higher levels of wakefulness, but this knowledge doesn't help with the concomittant anxiety it can cause when you're headlong into a violent hypno* hallucination thinking that you are in reality actually experiencing your dream.
Treating sleep apnea doesn't cure narcolepsy which is a neurological disorder, and if any of you all still have residual sleep paralysis or hypno hallucinations after treating sleep apnea then I encourage you to talk with your sleep doctor about it.
Effective REM blocking drugs are available, and I've found one that I like very well.
Good luck to you all in finding your solutions.
Hey Heather, you have my deepest sympathies! My hallucinations pale in comparison. Seriously, you ready for a laugh? I'd have this recurring "nightmare" that my roommate came home (she works night shift) and found the apartment in a mess and the dishes not done. This is a big violation of our house rules. And I was terrified she'd kick me out. I'd jerk fully awake and say to myself:
1) You don't live with Sarah anymore - you now live in Portland by yourself. Your house - your rules.
2) If the dirty dishes are bothering you so much, put them in the dishwasher, numb-nuts!
Okay, now that you're done laughing at what I found TERRIFYING... This happened over and over one summer. EVERY NIGHT. I KNEW it was because I was stressed out, and very much missing Sarah, and somehow that got translated into Sarah had thrown me out, rather than I voluntarily left Sarah.
Anyway, I occasionally have other sorts of hallucinations/lucid dreams. I do have one vivid sleepwalking experience from my childhood. But it's not regular, and NOTHING like what you've described.
If you don't know - there's a forum on the internet for people who suffer like you do. I say this half in gest - there's a forum for EVERYTHING these days - but also because on ANOTHER forum, someone mentioned THAT forum.
Just to creep you all out - it was the chat forum on The Wichita Eagle newspaper about the re-emergence, and eventual capture and sentencing of the BTK serial killer. Yes, I used to work for the newspaper, and I was obsessed for many years with that story. I worked nights in the newsroom with a reporter who had solved another serial killer case, and she used to tell me tales of BTK all night. And I lived down the street from one of the victims - and it happened when I was living there. I've finally let most of my obsession go. But here's the truly creepy part - right after BTK was caught, several people posted about his daughter being in another forum for people who have "night terrors". She'd had them all her life and they were quite debilitating. We all shuddered and sympathized so much with her.
No, to my knowledge, none of the family were posting members of that forum, though people often claimed to be family friends.
Okay, enough creepy for one night.
Cheers,
B.
1) You don't live with Sarah anymore - you now live in Portland by yourself. Your house - your rules.
2) If the dirty dishes are bothering you so much, put them in the dishwasher, numb-nuts!
Okay, now that you're done laughing at what I found TERRIFYING... This happened over and over one summer. EVERY NIGHT. I KNEW it was because I was stressed out, and very much missing Sarah, and somehow that got translated into Sarah had thrown me out, rather than I voluntarily left Sarah.
Anyway, I occasionally have other sorts of hallucinations/lucid dreams. I do have one vivid sleepwalking experience from my childhood. But it's not regular, and NOTHING like what you've described.
If you don't know - there's a forum on the internet for people who suffer like you do. I say this half in gest - there's a forum for EVERYTHING these days - but also because on ANOTHER forum, someone mentioned THAT forum.
Just to creep you all out - it was the chat forum on The Wichita Eagle newspaper about the re-emergence, and eventual capture and sentencing of the BTK serial killer. Yes, I used to work for the newspaper, and I was obsessed for many years with that story. I worked nights in the newsroom with a reporter who had solved another serial killer case, and she used to tell me tales of BTK all night. And I lived down the street from one of the victims - and it happened when I was living there. I've finally let most of my obsession go. But here's the truly creepy part - right after BTK was caught, several people posted about his daughter being in another forum for people who have "night terrors". She'd had them all her life and they were quite debilitating. We all shuddered and sympathized so much with her.
No, to my knowledge, none of the family were posting members of that forum, though people often claimed to be family friends.
Okay, enough creepy for one night.
Cheers,
B.
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man all that BTK stuff reminds me of Jeffrey Dahmer, maybe a few jokes are in order...Babette wrote:Hey Heather, you have my deepest sympathies! My hallucinations pale in comparison. Seriously, you ready for a laugh? I'd have this recurring "nightmare" that my roommate came home (she works night shift) and found the apartment in a mess and the dishes not done. This is a big violation of our house rules. And I was terrified she'd kick me out. I'd jerk fully awake and say to myself:
1) You don't live with Sarah anymore - you now live in Portland by yourself. Your house - your rules.
2) If the dirty dishes are bothering you so much, put them in the dishwasher, numb-nuts!
Okay, now that you're done laughing at what I found TERRIFYING... This happened over and over one summer. EVERY NIGHT. I KNEW it was because I was stressed out, and very much missing Sarah, and somehow that got translated into Sarah had thrown me out, rather than I voluntarily left Sarah.
Anyway, I occasionally have other sorts of hallucinations/lucid dreams. I do have one vivid sleepwalking experience from my childhood. But it's not regular, and NOTHING like what you've described.
If you don't know - there's a forum on the internet for people who suffer like you do. I say this half in gest - there's a forum for EVERYTHING these days - but also because on ANOTHER forum, someone mentioned THAT forum.
Just to creep you all out - it was the chat forum on The Wichita Eagle newspaper about the re-emergence, and eventual capture and sentencing of the BTK serial killer. Yes, I used to work for the newspaper, and I was obsessed for many years with that story. I worked nights in the newsroom with a reporter who had solved another serial killer case, and she used to tell me tales of BTK all night. And I lived down the street from one of the victims - and it happened when I was living there. I've finally let most of my obsession go. But here's the truly creepy part - right after BTK was caught, several people posted about his daughter being in another forum for people who have "night terrors". She'd had them all her life and they were quite debilitating. We all shuddered and sympathized so much with her.
No, to my knowledge, none of the family were posting members of that forum, though people often claimed to be family friends.
Okay, enough creepy for one night.
Cheers,
B.
When Jeff had his parents over for dinner, his mom kept complaining to him, saying, "I hate all your friends"...
He told her to try some of the salad...
What were Dahmer's last words to the guy that killed him in the fight?
"Hey buddy, I used to eat guys like you for breakfast!"
Did you hear that he came out with a cook book just before he died?
How to serve your friends at a cocktail party!
someday science will catch up to what I'm saying...