to fellow mouth breathers - oracle oral mask

auntiebeccaneedssleep · Post by **auntiebeccaneedssleep** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:12 am

I am 30 years old. I have always been a mouth breather, due to a deviated septum. I had it fixed in high school, but haven't been able to be a nose breather fully. I can at least breathe through my nose now though!
I would prefer to breathe through my mouth and the full face mask is too clausterphobic for me. I freaked out when they had me try it my sleep study.
Have any of you tried the oracle 452 oral cpap mask? I would really like to try this one I think. I can't afford to get a variety of masks as my insurance will be stopped at end of month (although it didn't cover it, the company I use gives me a discount for my insurance).
Last night my nasal mask was driving me nuts. I took it off for a break before I fell asleep. I then slept until 5am. I tried to put mask on because I was very tired and didn't feel good, but I was too awake, so I got up for the day. That is why I want to try the Oracle.

ConnCarl · Post by **ConnCarl** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:54 pm

I tried the Oracle briefly on a ResMed S7 test mule in my doctor's office. It sealed amazingly well...better than any FF mask I've ever tried. And no pressure points either. I'm a mouth breather too, courtesy of UVPPP. I may pick up an Oracle if I can get used to having my cheeks bulging like an overfed chipmunk.

Hope this helps! Carl

sleepy gal · Post by **sleepy gal** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:36 pm

Hi, I too am a mouth breather and having trouble with the ff masks....I got an oracle and unfortunately I can't use it either! Not only do my cheeks puff out, but at first the air was also coming out of my nose in burps....then I got nose clips and now the air feels like it is pushing my sinuses out through my ears!

I wonder if a lower pressure with an oracle makes sense. Anyhow, I wish you luck.

I think the idea is a good one, it certainly seals well...it's just how the air flows with it.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:06 pm

Whats a mouth breeder ?

Mikesus · Post by **Mikesus** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:02 pm

Anonymous wrote:Whats a mouth breeder ?

Someone who breeds mouths?

Mouth breathers are folks that can't or don't breathe through their nose...

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:36 pm

I think Fisher & Paykel suggest that lower pressure than the usual can be used with the Oracle. Heated humidification is a big must with it.

Air leaking out the nose in sudden snorts was one of two things that kept me from being able to use it. It's definitely a love it or hate it interface. With a few changes that I've not gotten around to doing to it yet (or looking for yet - like really comfortable nose plugs instead of those torturous pieces of silicone they send along with it for plugging the snout), I could get along with the Oracle o.k.

auntiebeccaneedssleep · Post by **auntiebeccaneedssleep** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:46 pm

Thank you all for responding to my questions. It helped give me an idea.

Auntie

loonlvr · Post by **loonlvr** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:54 pm

rested gal, did you try it with c-flex? I 'm also a mouth breEder. Hey another poll! Whose a mouth breather and whose a nose.

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:01 pm

Hi loonlvr,

No, I never tried the Oracle with my auto/c-flex. But I can sure do that tonight. Hate the thought of cramming those silicone F&P excuses for noseplug in...but, hey, what's a conscientious lab rat to do!

I used the Oracle with the 420E and with a Remstar Auto before c-flex was added.

Will let you know how it goes after tonight, loonlvr.

Bullwinkle · Post by **Bullwinkle** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:36 pm

I use the Oracle as a supplement to the F&P Infinity. I had a deviated septum "repaired" about a decade ago and then, couple years later, the septum wall blew out and I now have a perforated septum. Anyhow, tissues in there are soooo sensitive that there are some nights I just can't face the thought of something in my nose; enter the Oracle.

I have the Resmed auto w/ C-Flex and must say I've never had any problem with sinus pressure, leaks through nose or puffy cheeks. Figure the auto/C-Flex are responsible for that.

My only issue with the Oracle is that my jaw is a bit sore come morning. There is a "bit" that protrudes into the mouth just a bit and keeps you from completely biting down with it. With it keeping the jaw in that position, I get sore. Goes away within half hour or so after getting up so far, though.

And, as others say, heated humidifier is a must. Forgot to press that button one night with it and my throat was rather sore by 2 AM and my sinuses felt really dried out. No issue with humidity on, though.

-Jeff

Mikesus · Post by **Mikesus** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:41 pm

Kinda like this poor guy

Last thing they heard him say was, forgot the humidifier....

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:11 pm

Here's the mask that needs no humidifier

auntiebeccaneedssleep · Post by **auntiebeccaneedssleep** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:04 am

I can't imagine wearing that thing! Has anyone seen "Man in the Iron Mask" with Leonardo DiCaprio? I had panic attacks seeing him with the mask that locked. I can't imagine not being able to take it off. I do have occassional panic attacks wearing my nasal mask, so I am glad I can pull it off quickly if I need to. I have had to do it every couple nights! I can put it back on after a few minutes, (if I don't fall back to sleep)

Thanks for the image Mike! Now I know to make sure I use my humidifier! Mine isn't heated though.

Auntie

Mikesus · Post by **Mikesus** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:04 am

Anonymous wrote:Here's the mask that needs no humidifier

Someone has been hanging out in the WRONG kinda stores... That mask was right next to the fur lined handcuffs I think...

to fellow mouth breathers - oracle oral mask

to fellow mouth breathers - oracle oral mask

thanks for the info

mask gave me the eebie jeebies!

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