Swift to Swift II is it worth it?

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golmos
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Swift to Swift II is it worth it?

Post by golmos » Sun May 06, 2007 8:20 pm

Hi There,

I am new to the forum....

I have started CPAP therapy at 12 cms for 4 months. Got the Resmed Swift Nasal Pillow.

I was wondering if it is worth it to upgrade the Swift to Swift II? Is it just a little quieter? Just a marketing trick?

Can some people in the forum share there views?

Look forward to here your experience.

Best wishes,

Golmos


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Post by RichCMH » Sun May 06, 2007 9:08 pm

golmos... just read down a few threads... or use the search tab above for Swift II. Since it's new, only a few people here have it, but say they like it.


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Post by Bonnie » Sun May 06, 2007 9:13 pm

Swift II is by far superior to the original Swift, it is definitely a lot quieter. If you have had your Swift for a very short time, call your DME and have them get you the Swift II pillow.

Good luck!


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Post by golmos » Sun May 06, 2007 11:14 pm

Many thanks RichCMH & Bonnie...

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Post by RosemaryB » Mon May 07, 2007 7:59 am

I was only using the Swift I for a week, and was having a hard time with the noise. The Swift II is much quieter and not a problem. I like the exhaust direction better, too.

When I found that there was a conversion kit to make my Swift I into the Swift II and told my DME and they ordered it from me. But, I'd contacted ResMed myself first and so I gave the DME the part number. When I first told my DME they said they'd never heard of it, but the part number was some kind of proof. (This is why I got all the info from ResMed myself first, so they couldn't pooh-pooh it). They said they didn't want the part number but would contact ResMed themselves for it. This is a part of their "psychological" tactic to make the end-user feel like they are incapable of knowing anything on their own, IMHO.

In the end I got my mask and am very happy with it. Good luck in getting the upgrade.

Rose


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Post by Bonnie » Mon May 07, 2007 8:20 am

Rose wrote
This is a part of their "psychological" tactic to make the end-user feel like they are incapable of knowing anything on their own, IMHO.
Must be Apria.....it sure fits there way of thinking. Unfortunately they are also incapable of knowing anything on their own.

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Post by Snorkel » Mon May 07, 2007 8:06 pm

Rosemary,

My DME asked me if I could get them the part number for the conversion kit. Would you mind sharing it?
thanks
David


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Post by RosemaryB » Mon May 07, 2007 8:20 pm

[quote="Snorkel"]Rosemary,

My DME asked me if I could get them the part number for the conversion kit. Would you mind sharing it?
thanks
David


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Post by RosemaryB » Mon May 07, 2007 8:22 pm

Bonnie wrote:Rose wrote
This is a part of their "psychological" tactic to make the end-user feel like they are incapable of knowing anything on their own, IMHO.
Must be Apria.....it sure fits there way of thinking. Unfortunately they are also incapable of knowing anything on their own.
Not apria, but they all think alike. You know the saying, "Great minds think alike." The second part is "And fools seldom disagree."

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Post by Snorkel » Mon May 07, 2007 10:52 pm

ok, thanks!

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Swift II review

Post by GoofyUT » Wed May 09, 2007 6:57 am

I finally retired yesterday my original, 13 month old beloved Swift for a new Swift II. Well, not actually retired. The Swift is going in the travel bag for my new M-series Auto which I'll use for travel purposes. Anyway, the first thing I did to the Swift II upon getting it home was to "UFO" it, by applying velcro strips to the insides of the bottom straps, just like I did with my original Swift. This is an INVALUABLE fix proposed over a year ago by Steve (UFO13) that prevents the lower straps from riding up during the night thereby breaking the seal and has been the absolute key to success with this wonderful nasal pillows interface for me and many others. It should be a manufacturer's mod. but I'm sure that they don't want to pay Steve his just desserts. Nonetheless, for new users, take heed: Steve's wonderful mod is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL!!!

Having said all this, performing the mod confirmed for me that the headgear on the original Swift and the Swift II is identical. The pillows assembly is, of course, different, with the exhaust vents moved off the pillow and onto the frame, and further changed with many more, smaller, exhaust holes than was the case for the original Swift. The pillows themselves also seemed to be very slightly reconfigured with the same shape, same material, but a just perceptibly wider separation between the pillows. I was worried when I read that ResMed redesigned the pillows that I would experience a recurrence of pressure sores upon switching, but other than just slightly noticing the wider perch, I experienced no discomfort either when I first used the Swift II or upon awakening. It also sealed up just fine immediately as I applied pressure (10cm) from my REMstar Auto, and maintained that seal throughout the night, just like the original Swift did.

So, how'd I sleep with it? Fine. Well, maybe a little less soundly, but I think that this is because it was my first night with a new interface and I'm very sensitive to ANY changes. So, my slightly less sound sleep was, in my opinion, entirely cortical and will resolve in another day or so as I get used to it. I suppose that the Swift II is, as promised, sligthly quieter than the original. I never experienced the Swift as being objectionably noisy in any way (at least, not at 10 cm), though.

I did find the Swift II to be very slightly (though perceptibly) more difficult to breathe out against than I found the original Swift to be, with the same C-flex setting of 1. I was curious about whether the reconfiguration of the exhaust would result in any changes in the flow dynamics of CO2 venting. I can't say whether I've experienced any clinically, since at this point, my slightly less sound sleep I'm going to attribute to the newness of the interface. If it persists though, I'll be curious about whether the Swift II might vent CO2 differently and therefore, affect capnic triggers. In the past, I have speculated that I might have a brittle hypocapnic trigger. For example, I sleep MOST soundly with the Activa, because it has more dead-space, I believe, than does the Swift, though I prefer the Swift for lifestyle reasons, and sleep fine with it. Tough to say at this point whether there are any differences in CO2 venting between the original Swift and Swift II, and whether if there are any differences with the newly reconfigured exhaust, those differences have any clinical significance. But, I am curious, and I'll keep you posted about this.

Hope this helps someone.

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Post by golmos » Sun May 13, 2007 4:15 pm

Chuck fantastic review many thaks for sharing your views about Swift II

Golmos


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Post by Snorkel » Sun May 13, 2007 5:37 pm

[quote="RosemaryB"][quote="Snorkel"]Rosemary,

My DME asked me if I could get them the part number for the conversion kit. Would you mind sharing it?
thanks
David