Mirage Quattro full face review

MartiniLover · Post by **MartiniLover** » Thu May 03, 2007 5:45 am

First night, and all I can say is FAVORITE.

I can't believe how comfortable it was, and good I felt.

Very quiet.

Everything was a plus.

If you have a chance to get one, go for it.

Mike2000 · Post by **Mike2000** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:34 am

dsm wrote:
I am off to Resmed tomorrow & want to try a Quattro, my visit to Resmed is to take them my two S8 Escapes - they have so kindly offered to exchange both (US sourced models, one new & one used a bit for travel) for two local ANZ models that are then upgradeable to the Auto. I am one happy lad Resmed - all is forgiven

Does that mean they swapped you two S8 Autoscores for your two US S8 Escapes?

CollegeGirl · Post by **CollegeGirl** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:49 pm

WillSucceed wrote:
DME_Guy wrote:
I'm not looking for a debate snoredog. Internet arguing is a complete waste of my time. I find your comments very rude.

That's too damn bad, I asked a very simple question. Now that I've seen your answers, I doubt you ever tried that mask.
Better be careful Snoredog... you are dangerously close to having CollegeGirl express her heart-felt concern for the quality of treatment that you are getting. She seems to believe that dissension (particularly when it is disagreement with her oracular largess) is an artifact of insufficient CPAP treatment.

You might want to contact her for a consult -she is very wise in the ways of treating OSA and loves to be of help!

Go right ahead and insult me, Will. I actually appreciate it - it says infinitely more about you than it does about me, and helps people new to the forum learn who is here to help, and who is here to make themselves feel better by attacking others.

--CG

MartiniLover · Post by **MartiniLover** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:00 pm

Just a bump back to the top, in keeping with the subject.

After using the mask for a couple of nights, I still love it.

Very comfortable is the best compliment that I can give it.

ddpelp · Post by **ddpelp** » Fri May 04, 2007 6:26 pm

In the for what is it worth area. Today I got the Resmed fitting chart they FedEx to me I take a medium UMFFM and appears I will need same on the quattro mask. They said they were different but for me looks like really really close to exactly same size.

DME_Guy · Post by **DME_Guy** » Sat May 05, 2007 9:27 am

I agree. I went from a large UMFF to a large Quattro.

[quote="ddpelp"]In the for what is it worth area. Today I got the Resmed fitting chart they FedEx to me I take a medium UMFFM and appears I will need same on the quattro mask. They said they were different but for me looks like really really close to exactly same size.

Brian Hinther · Post by **Brian Hinther** » Tue May 08, 2007 8:10 pm

Here's another bump (I hope) for a topic I find very interesting, even if it is about ResMed. I've been struggling only a little with the F&P 431, but sure wouldn't mind a more comfortable and less leaky mask.

I really appreciate the info ddphelp passed along about the UMFF. I'll try that technique tonight on my UMFF, which I gave up on a while back. Success with it would make me more hopeful about the Quattro.

And is it going to be possible to get a Quattro here (cpap.com)?

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neverbetter · Post by **neverbetter** » Wed May 09, 2007 4:03 pm

This DME guy is so full of it that I'm surprised only snoredog responded. He must be a resmed DME because everyone I've talk to said the liberty was not worth buying and the liberty has no codes. I heard that when you move it comes undone and the swivel falls apart and the pillows are not sturdy. But he loves it and the hybrid will become obsolete.
What a salesman.
Gee thanks for the update. The price of the liberty was 239. now it's 209. (dropped 30. already!)
Resmed will never allow it to be sold cheaper than the Hybrid no matter how cheaply it's made. Their ego would never allow it.
Spare us.

dsm · Post by **dsm** » Wed May 09, 2007 4:20 pm

Mike2000 wrote:
dsm wrote:
I am off to Resmed tomorrow & want to try a Quattro, my visit to Resmed is to take them my two S8 Escapes - they have so kindly offered to exchange both (US sourced models, one new & one used a bit for travel) for two local ANZ models that are then upgradeable to the Auto. I am one happy lad Resmed - all is forgiven
Does that mean they swapped you two S8 Autoscores for your two US S8 Escapes?

cwsanfor · Post by **cwsanfor** » Wed May 09, 2007 7:17 pm

I got my Quattro today, unfortunately having to order it from other than our host, as I would have preferred, but it's not on the website, and I got no reply from an email to JG after three days, so....

I sure hope that the medium size I use in the UMFF and the CF2 is the same in the Quattro, because I've opened it now. I'll report tomorrow, but it looks and feels good so far.

ddpelp · Post by **ddpelp** » Wed May 09, 2007 7:33 pm

what online places are actually shipping this product? I have checked two they say shipping by end on May YET I know some are shipping and as above already have the new mask.. Please send a couple uRLs thanks

cwsanfor · Post by **cwsanfor** » Fri May 11, 2007 5:22 am

The first night I forgot to put the card in, so I have no data.

AHI: Last night I used the Resmed Quattro and got an AHI of 0.1 with only one apnea (a sleep onset one that may have been an artifact) on BiPAP at 15/19.5 cm H2O. That's much better than I ever got with the Resmed Ultra Mirage Full Face, and as good as I get with my trusty Respironics Comfort Full 2. My six month average AHI is 0.6.

Comfort: The mask is extremely comfortable, like a F&P 431/432.

Leaks: The only issue I have is that it seems a bit leak prone. Not as bad as the 431/432, but the seal on the CF2 and UMFF seems tighter. However, I had the straps pretty loose (not Activa loose, but looser than usual). That may require some fiddling with, but the Quattro is now in my mask rotation. I'll probably alternate it with the CF2, and reserve the Hybrid for the occasional nasal bridge accident.

The Quattro has the following Pressure/Flow rates:

Pressure (cm H20) / Flow (L/min)
4 / 22
8 / 32
12 / 41
16 / 48
20 / 54

I had a mean IPAP of 18.2, and an average leak of 65 L/min, so there's some room for improvement in my leak management. I'd expect to get that leak to or below 50, like on the UMFF.

Sizing: Resmed sent me the sizing tool promptly, and I'm square in the medium range, just like with the CF2 and UMFF.

lcd · Post by **lcd** » Fri May 11, 2007 8:08 am

Snoredog wrote:thanks for the review, how does it compare noise wise with the UMFF?

It's soooo quiet compared to the UMFF (even at high pressures)!! My partner got a Quattro a couple of days ago and at last I'm getting some decent sleep
He also much prefers it in terms of comfort, noise, etc. It's good for sleeping on your side as well.
The UMFF was a constant struggle. I love the Quattro!

Rabid1 · Post by **Rabid1** » Fri May 11, 2007 10:53 am

cwsanfor,

We are using the same auto bipap. Do you experience the "pumping effect" that is common with the Activa? I had to quit using the Activa because the thumping against my face kept me awake.

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Fri May 11, 2007 11:00 am

cwsanfor wrote:I got my Quattro today, unfortunately having to order it from other than our host, as I would have preferred, but it's not on the website, and I got no reply from an email to JG after three days, so....

I sure hope that the medium size I use in the UMFF and the CF2 is the same in the Quattro, because I've opened it now. I'll report tomorrow, but it looks and feels good so far.

Let us know how it goes Wally, you have pretty high pressure up in the higher teens so it would be nice to know how it compares to your UMFF.

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