dont have sleep apnea
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dont have sleep apnea
HELLO TO ALL OF YOU, I AM NEW TO THIS HAVE BEEN ON CPAP FOR TWO WEEKS,NOT FOR SLEEP APNE,IM NOT SURE WHAT I HAVE,MY ENT SAYS I AM RUNNING A MARATHON IN MY SLEEP W/58.9 ARROUSALS PER HOUR,AND IS WANTING TO DO LASER ON MY PALLOT? I WANTED TO TRY THIS FIRST,AM FEELING BETTER BUT HAVE BEEN OFF MACHINE FOR TWO NIGHTS DUE TO A SEVERE HEAD COLD,ANY ONE HAVE THOUGHTS ON THIS SURGURY AM I THE ONLY ONE ON THIS CPAP THAT DOSNT HAVE CENTRAL SLEEP APNE APPRECIATE ANY FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE
Re: dont have sleep apnea
[quote="notsleepapnea"]HELLO TO ALL OF YOU, I AM NEW TO THIS HAVE BEEN ON CPAP FOR TWO WEEKS,NOT FOR SLEEP APNE,IM NOT SURE WHAT I HAVE,MY ENT SAYS I AM RUNNING A MARATHON IN MY SLEEP W/58.9 ARROUSALS PER HOUR,AND IS WANTING TO DO LASER ON MY PALLOT? I WANTED TO TRY THIS FIRST,AM FEELING BETTER BUT HAVE BEEN OFF MACHINE FOR TWO NIGHTS DUE TO A SEVERE HEAD COLD,ANY ONE HAVE THOUGHTS ON THIS SURGURY AM I THE ONLY ONE ON THIS CPAP THAT DOSNT HAVE CENTRAL SLEEP APNE APPRECIATE ANY FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE
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I'D GO AHEAD AND KEEP USING THE CPAP MACHINE, AT LEAST UNTIL i GOT MY CAP LOCK KEY FIXED, I KNOW I'M GOING TO. Jim
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notsleepapnea,
Welcome to CPAPtalk.
Using CAPS. Capital letters when typing in a forum or chat is considered like yelling and rude.
Many like myself find it hard to read as well.
Welcome to CPAPtalk.
Using CAPS. Capital letters when typing in a forum or chat is considered like yelling and rude.
Many like myself find it hard to read as well.
I can do this, I will do this.
My disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, nor have I ever worked in the health care field Just my personal opinions.
My disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, nor have I ever worked in the health care field Just my personal opinions.
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Re: dont have sleep apnea
You don't have sleep apnea but you are on CPAP and thinking about surgery for sleep apnea (UPPP). I'm confused can you explain more and post your sleep study report data?notsleepapnea wrote:HELLO TO ALL OF YOU, I AM NEW TO THIS HAVE BEEN ON CPAP FOR TWO WEEKS,NOT FOR SLEEP APNE,IM NOT SURE WHAT I HAVE,MY ENT SAYS I AM RUNNING A MARATHON IN MY SLEEP W/58.9 ARROUSALS PER HOUR,AND IS WANTING TO DO LASER ON MY PALLOT? I WANTED TO TRY THIS FIRST,AM FEELING BETTER BUT HAVE BEEN OFF MACHINE FOR TWO NIGHTS DUE TO A SEVERE HEAD COLD,ANY ONE HAVE THOUGHTS ON THIS SURGURY AM I THE ONLY ONE ON THIS CPAP THAT DOSNT HAVE CENTRAL SLEEP APNE APPRECIATE ANY FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE
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Re: dont have sleep apnea
notsleepapnea,
That is a lot of arousals. It is like someone shakes you awake every minute. Not very peaceful sleep.
I would like to see you post some data from your sleep study.
Especially
You said you had zero central apnea
Different apneas/hypopneas could be:
Central From the brain and not from the airway. Body does not try to breath, without receiving air.
obstructive: No airflow was detected for at least 10 seconds
Mixed
hypopnea: scored when a 30% or more drop in airflow with coincident deesaturation of at least 4% lasting at least 10 seconds was observed.
AASM Mild hypopnea: scored if a 50% drop in flow was seen, or a lesser drop followed by either a 3% desaturation or AASM cortical arousal.
The mild hypopnea do not count for AHI. But they may be what is your problem.
American Association of Sleep Medicine (AASM)
I am wondering if your doctor said you do not have Sleep apnea as measured by AHI. Apnea and hypopnea index
If you have AASM Mild hypopnea, CPAP will help you sleep better. I think it may be more difficult to get an accurate titration study done.
There is a discussion of something called Upper Airway Resisatance syndrome. UARS. I am not sure if a final concenses among scientist is settled of what exactly UARS is.
Here is more links for you to read.
I hope this helps:
http://www.clevelandclinicmeded.com/dis ... /sleep.htm
http://www.apneasupport.org/viewtopic.php?t=5443
http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/full/115/4/1127
http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/conte ... 161/5/1412
http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/conte ... 161/5/1413
That is a lot of arousals. It is like someone shakes you awake every minute. Not very peaceful sleep.
I would like to see you post some data from your sleep study.
Especially
You said you had zero central apnea
Different apneas/hypopneas could be:
Central From the brain and not from the airway. Body does not try to breath, without receiving air.
obstructive: No airflow was detected for at least 10 seconds
Mixed
hypopnea: scored when a 30% or more drop in airflow with coincident deesaturation of at least 4% lasting at least 10 seconds was observed.
AASM Mild hypopnea: scored if a 50% drop in flow was seen, or a lesser drop followed by either a 3% desaturation or AASM cortical arousal.
The mild hypopnea do not count for AHI. But they may be what is your problem.
American Association of Sleep Medicine (AASM)
I am wondering if your doctor said you do not have Sleep apnea as measured by AHI. Apnea and hypopnea index
If you have AASM Mild hypopnea, CPAP will help you sleep better. I think it may be more difficult to get an accurate titration study done.
There is a discussion of something called Upper Airway Resisatance syndrome. UARS. I am not sure if a final concenses among scientist is settled of what exactly UARS is.
Here is more links for you to read.
I hope this helps:
http://www.clevelandclinicmeded.com/dis ... /sleep.htm
http://www.apneasupport.org/viewtopic.php?t=5443
http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/full/115/4/1127
http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/conte ... 161/5/1412
http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/conte ... 161/5/1413
notsleepapnea wrote:HELLO TO ALL OF YOU, I AM NEW TO THIS HAVE BEEN ON CPAP FOR TWO WEEKS,NOT FOR SLEEP APNE,IM NOT SURE WHAT I HAVE,MY ENT SAYS I AM RUNNING A MARATHON IN MY SLEEP W/58.9 ARROUSALS PER HOUR,AND IS WANTING TO DO LASER ON MY PALLOT? I WANTED TO TRY THIS FIRST,AM FEELING BETTER BUT HAVE BEEN OFF MACHINE FOR TWO NIGHTS DUE TO A SEVERE HEAD COLD,ANY ONE HAVE THOUGHTS ON THIS SURGURY AM I THE ONLY ONE ON THIS CPAP THAT DOSNT HAVE CENTRAL SLEEP APNE APPRECIATE ANY FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE
I can do this, I will do this.
My disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, nor have I ever worked in the health care field Just my personal opinions.
My disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, nor have I ever worked in the health care field Just my personal opinions.
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My suggestion would be to talk to a few people who have had the surgery. My sleep doc says that he doesn't recommend it anymore, because he has seen very few people that this painful surgery has helped.
From what I have heard, it is about the most painful procedure that you could ever have.
From what I have heard, it is about the most painful procedure that you could ever have.
I just want to go back to sleep!
CAPS
I wonder when the concept of ALL CAPS being considered a SHOUTING began and who thought it was.
I find all caps are easier to read and have never had a problem with them.
It is understandable when a person uses all caps for EMPHASIS.
Some people seem to get excited about a person who occasionally mispells a word or two and it makes them feel something to point it out.
I am not all that smart to start with, but ALL CAPS has never bothered me and I wonder why it seems to irritate some?
I find all caps are easier to read and have never had a problem with them.
It is understandable when a person uses all caps for EMPHASIS.
Some people seem to get excited about a person who occasionally mispells a word or two and it makes them feel something to point it out.
I am not all that smart to start with, but ALL CAPS has never bothered me and I wonder why it seems to irritate some?
Same reason that saying words that are completely benign in one circle can offend people in another. It's just etiquette.
If your doc said "running a marathon" then that could mean a lot of things. PLMD, OSA, CSA, UARS, REM disorder, all kinds of things. Given the UPPP that's been recommended, it certainly sounds like OSA, but post your sleep study results and we can be much more helpful.
If your doc said "running a marathon" then that could mean a lot of things. PLMD, OSA, CSA, UARS, REM disorder, all kinds of things. Given the UPPP that's been recommended, it certainly sounds like OSA, but post your sleep study results and we can be much more helpful.
I'm a programmer Jim, not a doctor!
Re: CAPS
It actually started long before the internet was the next big thing. I recall my days as a BBS SysOp (and user, prior to that) seeing caps being considered bad form. Most likely, it was because there really wasn't any other way to draw attention to one word or phrase other than to make it caps.tomjax wrote:I wonder when the concept of ALL CAPS being considered a SHOUTING began and who thought it was.
I find all caps are easier to read and have never had a problem with them.
It is understandable when a person uses all caps for EMPHASIS.
Some people seem to get excited about a person who occasionally mispells a word or two and it makes them feel something to point it out.
I am not all that smart to start with, but ALL CAPS has never bothered me and I wonder why it seems to irritate some?
These days, however, you can use bold or italics or maybe even the color red, but I guess old habits die hard.