Need to purchase APAP--ASAP

[schaefage]

Hey Everyone,

I'm looking to purchase an APAP machine asap. I'm looking for a remstar auto preferably. PLease private message me if you have one for sale or know of one for sale. I will pay for overnight shipping too.

I would be eternally grateful.

Kent

[Bearded_One]

Why don't you just order one from cpap.com? Order online or call them, and fax them your prescription. They will ship same day and overnight it.

[WillSucceed]

Schaefage:
While I'm not sure what the rush is, if you can take a bit of time, trialing APAP's from different manufacturers BEFORE you buy is the best way to ensure that you get a machine that will properly address your particular sleep issues.

Most folk get good treatment from any machine right out of the box. However, you won't know this until you actually trial the different machines. I tried Respironics, ResMed and Puritan-Bennett machines before I bought and I'm glad I did. The machine that I wanted to buy (because I already had their heated humidifier) did not give me as good a treatment as did the other two machines.

So, if you can take a bit of time, try out the different machines before you buy.

[DreamStalker]

I agree with Will. You need to take time to discover your own specific response to treatment. While the CPAP is pretty much the same regardless of what brand you use (human factors aside), APAPs are much more different and each person responds differently to each of the different APAPs.

I started out on a ResMed S8 Auto and the best I could do was an AHI of 2.2 (still good) but in my quest for the elusive 0.0 I wanted to try out the Respironics. After 3 months on Remstar Auto (tank) I have been able to get AHI down to 0.5 -- however the AI is the same for both ResMend and Remstar machines at 0.1 ... so my next test will be to seek the 0.0 AHI under CPAP mode now that I know my sweet spot is just under 12 cm h2o and not the 10 cm I was titrated at.

If at all possible you should try to trial them all -- ResMed, Remstar, and PB 420e, and DeVilbiss too. If you are unable to do this economically then your best bet is to study your PSG lab report and educate yourself on which APAP algorithm is likely to perform best for your unique sleep disorder characteristics. That will require much more effort on your part ... in the end it may turn out that you simply do best under CPAP.

[tomjax]

I would also start monitoring yahoo auctions.

They often have apap for sale.

Most common is respironics apap.

a plain respirpnics plus- nat auto is available now for 150.00

[GoofyUT]

RIGHT ON!!!! What Will and Roberto said!

I couldn't agree more with these two fine and learned gents.

I too, trialed auto-titrating machines from competing manufacturers and found an absolutely DRAMATIC difference in my responses to them. With one, I had a MISERABLE four months. With the other, I began sleeping through the night and achieving AHIs <0.5 almost immediately. Both are FINE machines, but one worked dramatically better for me than the other did.

So, TRY BEFORE YOU BUY! Your sleep and health depends on it!

Chuck

Bravo, Will and 'Berto!!!!!

[Wulfman]

Kent,

If you WERE able to trial different machines, I doubt that whoever gave you the machines to trial would get them properly set up for you anyway. One of the main reasons you see so many people on this forum looking for help is because the DME gave them the cheapest machine and mask and consequently their therapy has suffered. How are you going to be able to determine the best machine without getting the software for each brand? It would take you MANY MONTHS to determine which machine is the best for your therapy. In the end, you'd be getting a REMstar Auto anyway. Why waste all those months and money?
A new one from CPAP.COM will come with a 2-year warranty, too.

Here's your two BEST options:

https://www.cpap.com/productpage-bundle ... undle.html

or

https://www.cpap.com/productpage-bundle ... undle.html

Best wishes,

Den

[NightHawkeye]

Psst, Kent . . .,

[maximum stealth mode ON] . . . [maximum stealth mode OFF]

Regards,
Bill

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[GoofyUT]

With all due respect, I knew within ONE WEEK (really, one night!) that one manufacturer's auto-titrating machine worked FAR better for me than the other's did, and without the need for any software or data. I knew simply because I was able to sleep fully and restfully throughout the night immediately upon switching to a different APAP, after four months of miserable nights with the other's.

Also, please don't be lured by the "group-think" here. You should NOT wind up with a REMstar anyway. For MANY, they receive simply better and more effective treatment with a machine from ResMed, Puritan-Bennett, Devilbiss, Invacare or Somnotech. You OUGHT to wind up with the APAP that works best FOR YOU. (And, only if APAP is NOT contra-inidicated for you). You also ought to be curious about the reasons behind the pervasive Respironics "group-think" that is so evident here.

Chuck

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[NightHawkeye]

Here's a link to one of Chuck's earlier postings describing explicitly how much better one machine worked for him than another did.
viewtopic.php?p=136723&highlight=chuck+ ... tar#136723

Regards,
Bill ( . . . who is not particularly concerned about the need for sugar-coating)

[GoofyUT]

I've deleted my rant about privacy rights, since as Bill and Den point out, whatever we say seesm to last forever in the publics' eye in this eelctronic universe we live in.

I object to the disclosure of my experiences with machines since I am commited to the idea that the auto-titrating machines are SO different in operation and treatment delivered in clinically significant ways that each individual owes it to themselves to try the various machines out to determine which works best for them.

I did have four miserable months with a ResMed S8 Vantage in AutoSet mode, and I immediately improved upon switching to a REMstar Auto. Does this mean that the REMstar is a better machine???? ABSOLUTELY NOT!! it was simply better for me in terms of the treatment it delivered because of its algorithm, than the ResMed was. In terms of factors unrelated to algorithm, I still believe that the S8 Vantage is a FAR more sophisticated and better thought out machine, especially because of its capability of displaying efficacy data right on its LCD screen without the need for outboard computers, software or readers NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE.

The important point here is NOT which one worked better, but that I derived SUCH a dramatically different response from the two machines. That's why folks owe it to themselves to try before they buy.

It is for this reason that I have refrained from identifying which machine I had my respective experiences with, and I am giving notice that I am requesting others to refrain from making disclosures of my experiences with machines on my behalf without first checking with me. My experiences are relevant for ME alone. Each of our responses are simply that individual.

Chuck[/url]

[Wulfman]

Another thread started by Chuck as he was trying to find the optimum machine for his therapy.

viewtopic.php?p=79077&highlight=#79077


With all due respects Chuck, anything posted in this (or any other) forum AIN'T "private".

Den

[NightHawkeye]

Chuck,

Do you even believe what you posted?

ARE YA CONCERNED ABOUT EACH OF OUR PRIVACY RIGHTS HERE, ABOUT PROTECTED MEDICAL INFORMATION (PMI), ABOUT HIPAA AND ABOUT OUR ABILITIES TO TRUST IN ONE ANOTHER HERE???

Of course I am, Chuck. What I posted had nothing to do with privacy rights, protected medical info, or HIPAA.

As for trust??? Hmmm, having been lambasted recently by another member explicitly dissecting my own words, maybe I'm not attuned to the same level of trust you're feeling.

We link to others postings here all the time though. Ya really don't want to make a federal case of this, Chuck. Your argument has NO merit.

DON'T MAKE DISCLOSURES ABOUT ME WITHOUT ASKING ME FIRST. DON'T DO THIS FOR ANYONE HERE.

Excuse me for being insensitive. In deference to you I will edit my prior post.

Regards,
Bill

[Linda3032]

Hey Guys, let's not shanghai this discussion. Unfortunately, not everyone has a wonderful DME or location, and therefore has no convenient way to "test" all these different machines. Just ask me out here in rural Arkansas.

Kent, in my opinion, the Remstar Auto is a fine machine. And most everyone who has one is quite happy with it. It should work for you unless you need a bi-level machine, or have unusual problems.

So, good luck in finding a machine. (I have two tanks and there is no way I would part with either one).

[Slinky]

I'm inclined to agree. I would dearly LOVE to try out the various Autos - but - ain't no way in my neck of the woods any DME would give me that opportunity. I'd REALLY like to know more about the Puritan Bennets and the DeVilBiss and Fisher & Paykel ..... especially those Puritan Bennets.

Anyway my pocketbook wouldn't allow me to buy one of each even at cpap.com's good prices. *sigh* Dumb of me to marry for love instead of money???

Nah! I'm too good at spending money. The love has lasted 42 years.