DS2 vs Resmed10 wild difference

[Stephaniedp3]

1. I’ve been adjusting my own pressure for at least a year now. Things I thought were going well. I saw online someone as well as a sleep tech saying changing your own can lead to central apnea. Should I worry?

2. Since changing to the new dreamstation 2 after the recall I struggled with both APAP with my rx of 5-20 as well as attempting higher and lower cpap pressures. Eventually the cpap worked better and I had awesome number, below 2 all the time. Recently they suffered a lot - like ahi of 42 bad.

I had a family member who loaned me a resmed elite 10 cpap previously and ended up not needing it again recently and let me have it. I used it twice with no data then found out the current issue that some the modem is no longer working. Thought this was useless but remembered Oscar. So I tried it with 11.4 pressure and bam, 2 nights in a row I’m under 0.5 ahi.

So what gives, is DS2 just awful? Lol

[Julie]

You may not realize it, but the Elite is a very old model... the Airsense 10 autoset is the current ideal, and Phillips is on the 'outs' altogether. The one thing I wouldn't worry about is central apnea - everyone here changes their own pressures all the time. Of course if you really don't know what you're doing and set up extreme numbers, I suppose anything's possible, but highly unlikely under normal circumstances.

[palerider]

1. I’ve been adjusting my own pressure for at least a year now. Things I thought were going well. I saw online someone as well as a sleep tech saying changing your own can lead to central apnea. Should I worry?

No, There are a lot of ignorant people out there dispensing 'advice'.

Is it possible? yes, for about 1 in 7 people. Is it a problem? no.

2. Since changing to the new dreamstation 2 after the recall I struggled with both APAP with my rx of 5-20 as well as attempting higher and lower cpap pressures. Eventually the cpap worked better and I had awesome number, below 2 all the time. Recently they suffered a lot - like ahi of 42 bad.

I had a family member who loaned me a resmed elite 10 cpap previously and ended up not needing it again recently and let me have it. I used it twice with no data then found out the current issue that some the modem is no longer working. Thought this was useless but remembered Oscar. So I tried it with 11.4 pressure and bam, 2 nights in a row I’m under 0.5 ahi.

So what gives, is DS2 just awful? Lol

It's a solid number 2 (as opposed to a runny one).

It's not awful, but it's software is nowhere near as smart as Resmed Autoset's

[palerider]

You may not realize it, but the Elite is a very old model... the Airsense 10 autoset is the current ideal,

Please, *PLEASE* PLEASE stop saying things when you have NO idea whatsoever what you're gibbering on about.

The Elite is a *CURRENT* model, there's an Airsense 11 Elite.

[zonker]

1. I’ve been adjusting my own pressure for at least a year now. Things I thought were going well. I saw online someone as well as a sleep tech saying changing your own can lead to central apnea. Should I worry?

i've been changing my own pressure for 8 years. haven't had central apnea yet.

So what gives, is DS2 just awful? Lol

pretty much! no, resmed has a different algorithm than philips. many prefer the resmed over the philips.

you've just seen why.

[ozij]

A setting of 5 -20 on any APAP isn't too good for most of us....

At a fixed pressure, the different Auto algorithms shouldn't have an impact on your results, but the ways of providing pressure relief, and the amount of humidity and hose temp can make a difference.

[Julie]

Sorry if I misled re the age of Elite machines, but every mention I've ever seen (for years) has referenced that it's an old model whether or not there are newer versions.

[ozij]

Sorry if I misled re the age of Elite machines, but every mention I've ever seen (for years) has referenced that it's an old model whether or not there are newer versions.

https://www.resmed.com.au/healthcare-pr ... e-10-elite

I used to get confused between the Escape: old machine, (no data reporting, no new models) and Elite (old name carried on to newer machines), data reporting but no Autoset algorithm. Two syllables, both starting with E.... both ending with "e".... sigh.

[Julie]

Guess the Cpap police are at it again .

[Stephaniedp3]

Thank you everyone. I can’t afford to go back to the doctor for a newer resmed because my husband got laid off so I’ll keep using it since it’s working so well.

Crazy that whether I did varying fixed cpap pressures or varying auto pressure ranges ds2 just didn’t work for me. The ds1 worked perfect for me. Glad I have this resmed and Oscar an an option in the meantime.

Thanks again!

[Dog Slobber]

Crazy that whether I did varying fixed cpap pressures or varying auto pressure ranges ds2 just didn’t work for me. The ds1 worked perfect for me. Glad I have this resmed and Oscar an an option in the meantime.

I definitely fit into the ResMed AirSense is the preferred machine over DreamStation. They have a more responsive algorithm. The forum is absolutely full of people who have switched from DreamStation to AirSense and love it. But you will have a hard time finding people who have switched from AirSense to DreamStation and glad they did.

Having said that, your comparison is not a valid one.

You are comparing a reasonably* titrated fixed pressure device against a misconfigured Auto-titrated device. This is not a valid comparison.

Had your DS2 been configured with a minimum pressure comparable to your ResMed Elite's 11.4 cm, than your experience would have been a lot better.

I would:

• keep using your Elite
• Set your DS2 to 12-20 and keep handy for use as a spare

There are a few forum Fixed Pressure advocates, including prominent YouTubers, who have had a misconfigured Auto machine and now run around telling people that they can't use Auto.

Don't let your experience with the misconfigured APAP put you into the:

• AutoPressure BAD, Fixed Pressure GOOD

camp.

And the fact that your fixed pressure of 11.4cm is working well for you, is solid evidence that your 5-20 APAP was misconfigured.


Edit: Made a careless error comparing DS to AirSense. Fixed.

[palerider]

Sorry if I misled re the age of Elite machines, but every mention I've ever seen (for years) has referenced that it's an old model whether or not there are newer versions.

No, you've NEVER seen that.

There was a S6 Elite, S7 Elite, an S8 Elite, a S9 Elite, an Airsense 10 Elite, and most recently an Airsense 11 Elite.

Resmed has an a fixed pressure full data machine (as much as there was back then) for ages, and they still have new ones.

The "age" is the model line, S6, S7, S8, S9, Airsense 10, Airsense 11.

Don't conflate the two and confuse new people.

[palerider]

Guess the Cpap police are at it again .

When you start spouting your ignorant garbage and confusing people by telling them complete and total falsehoods, you're damn right we are.

[palerider]

Thank you everyone. I can’t afford to go back to the doctor for a newer resmed because my husband got laid off so I’ll keep using it since it’s working so well.

You already HAVE a newer Resmed, Julie is mistaken in what she's told you.

If the machine's working for you well, then keep it up!

[Stephaniedp3]

Thank you dog slobber and pale rider.


I tried many auto settings 7-20, 10-16, 12-20, and more. Also tried switching DS2 to fixed pressure in varying pressures . Still didn’t work for me.

I will definitely keep using this Elite 10. Haven’t been back to theMD in at least 2 years so need to go back eventually and will request they do not push me to continue with DS2.