Reading OSCAR #2

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Reading OSCAR #2

Post by fawe » Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:23 pm

Hello,

I submitted a post back in May(viewtopic.php?f=1&t=186631&p=1439596#p1439596) asking for help reading my results, I made the necessary changes, and have since switched masks, I tried out the dreamwear FFM as an alternative to the F30i, which I did not like, and have since switched to the F20 Airtouch FFM, but I still feel tired although i feel like i got decent sleep. I just wanted to get your guys opinion, and see if there's anything obvious, or if you have any other recommendations. Anything is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by zonker » Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:41 pm

moving forward, could you please stay in one thread? it's good that you linked the last, but if you stay in one thread, it's much easier for the forum members to keep track of you.

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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by dataq1 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:54 am

Thanks for the update.
It certainly looks like your AHI is well under control (of course you untreated AHI was just marginal to begin with).
What would be interesting is to compare your clear airway events from your sleep study to todays reports.

As a long time mouth breather, I've become quite comfortable with the full face mask, and personally would find it very difficult to use anything that did not capture my mouth.

So tell us something about your sleep study and especially what fraction of your sleep study AHI was assigned to central apneas.
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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:29 pm

dataq1 wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:54 am
What would be interesting is to compare your clear airway events from your sleep study to todays reports.
Ridiculous. The number of CAs reported is nothing to be concerned about. Please quit sending people on wild goose chases.

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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by Okie bipap » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:33 pm

I don't see anything that screams fix me. The only possible change would be a slight increase in your minimum pressure. Your machine will only help with your sleep apnea, not other causes of crappy sleep.

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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by dataq1 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:28 pm

From the data that you have posted thus far:
73% of your 3 month average AHI are attributable to CAs
70% of your 4-20-23 AHI is attributable to CAs
75% of your 7-17-23 AHI is attributable to CAs

Generally CAs are not able to be treated by CPAP / APAP. The machine does not react (by changing pressure) to CA events

The reason that I asked the question about your sleep study was to see if the 7.7 AHI was dominated by CAs.

OTOH, if the combined OAs and Hs were the overwhelming factor in your 7.7 sleep study, then it would appear that your therapy has been quite effective, where it can be effective.
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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by palerider » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:20 pm

dataq1 wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:28 pm
From the data that you have posted thus far:
73% of your 3 month average AHI are attributable to CAs
70% of your 4-20-23 AHI is attributable to CAs
75% of your 7-17-23 AHI is attributable to CAs

Generally CAs are not able to be treated by CPAP / APAP. The machine does not react (by changing pressure) to CA events

The reason that I asked the question about your sleep study was to see if the 7.7 AHI was dominated by CAs.

OTOH, if the combined OAs and Hs were the overwhelming factor in your 7.7 sleep study, then it would appear that your therapy has been quite effective, where it can be effective.
This is another stellar example of why the advice is to put dataq1 on your foe list and ignore the drivel.

To the OP:
It's also a good example of why we don't use percentages to see if there's a problem.

"75% of your 7-17-23 AHI is attributable to CAs" AKA a whopping 0.97 CAI.

As more intelligent people have stated, totally immaterial.

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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by dataq1 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:51 pm

palerider wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:20 pm
If a patient with an untreated 7.7 AHI has 6.0 CAI, do they need CPAP therapy?

Will the cpap machine react (increase pressure) in CA events? Will the cpap machine provide therapy for CAs?

There is no harm in asking the OP what his sleep study breakdown was.
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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:27 am

dataq1 wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:51 pm
There is no harm in asking the OP what his sleep study breakdown was.
You don't even understand the harm you try to do. The harm is in you trying to alarm the user about an inconsequential amount of what the machine reports as CAs.

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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:28 am

palerider wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:20 pm
As more intelligent people have stated, totally immaterial.
I never thought I would see the day. Thanks for recognizing that I am smarter than you. :lol:

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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by dataq1 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:49 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:27 am
an inconsequential amount of what the machine reports as CAs.
70% is hardly an inconsequential fraction of the OPs AHI.
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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:52 am

dataq1 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:49 am
70% is hardly an inconsequential fraction of the OPs AHI.
You are hopeless. 0.97 CAI is of no consequence. Most of them may even be transitional.

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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by palerider » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:00 am

dataq1 wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:51 pm
palerider wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:20 pm
Will the cpap machine react (increase pressure) in CA events? Will the cpap machine provide therapy for CAs?
Your ignorance level astonishes.

Why don't you go troll some facebook forum instead of doing harm here?

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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by palerider » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:03 am

dataq1 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:49 am
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:27 am
an inconsequential amount of what the machine reports as CAs.
70% is hardly an inconsequential fraction of the OPs AHI.
Percentages don't matter. you crettinous stenchpot.

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Re: Reading OSCAR #2

Post by dataq1 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:07 pm

OP's 30 day average
1.62 Total AHI
0.04 Obstructive I
0.39 HI
1.19 CAI

1.19 divided by 1.62 times 100 = 73.4%

73.4 % of the OP's total AHI is attributed/assignable to Clear Airway Events

Suggests that going forward the OP ought consider concentrating on controlling Clear Airway Events.
(otherwise, the OP is doing great)
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