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you've been at a fixed pressure of 12, going to a min pressure of 8 is going to be.... interesting.
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um, no. I previously posted it was fixed at 8 when the machine was set to cpap. I JUST saw my Doc last Thursday and he changed it to the settings i just posted sometime between then and now.
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Not always or actually...rarely.
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WOW. Interesting. I guess a was sold a bill of goods. So, does being on auto mean its worse than straight cpap with a fixed setting? ugh. Wish I would have started this thread years ago. So much to learn. Maybe one day I'll actually get benefit from the machine. Been using a machine 20+ years and never felt any benefit. I only stay on it because I need to stay in compliance for a script of modafinal. it would be nice if I didnt need drug to stay awake/alert etc.Pugsy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:16 pmNot always or actually...rarely.
If it did all people would need is minimum of 4 and max of 20 and no one would have problems or complaints or need anything in the way of follow up.
It would take an "ideal world" for it to be that simple and rarely is anyone ever in an ideal world.
The minimum pressure is the most critical pressure setting anyway. Sometimes it needs some help to optimize treatment.
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No, not worse ....as long as the minimum is optimally set...and sometimes auto works better for some people.
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The last pic you posted, mask pressure: 11.9.sreiter wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:10 pmum, no. I previously posted it was fixed at 8 when the machine was set to cpap. I JUST saw my Doc last Thursday and he changed it to the settings i just posted sometime between then and now.
Why would you think it I've been at a fix pressure of 12, or for that matter, in APAP mode, I'd ever even hit 12? Doesnt auto give you what you need within whatever max min range you have?
Statements like this really need to be challenged.
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Thank you for the explanationPugsy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:34 pmNo, not worse ....as long as the minimum is optimally set...and sometimes auto works better for some people.
Like me...I am a prime example of why auto mode works best for me.
Let me explain...my OSA is 5 times worse in REM sleep (documented in the in lab sleep study that I had) where my diagnostic AHI was around 14 in non REM and 54 in REM. I also happen to need 6 to 8 cm more pressure when in REM.
For me to use fixed cpap mode I would have to use 6 to 8 cm MORE pressure ALL NIGHT LONG so that my REM events are prevented. It's much easier to use around 8 or 9 cm for the bulk of the night when I am not in REM and let the machine go up to 15 or so than it would be for me to use 15 cm all night long.
Same thing can happen for people who happen to have their OSA worsen dramatically when they are on their backs vs on their sides. I know one person who needs 19 cm when on their back and only 9 cm when on their side.
So for some people auto mode is a better choice...other people may not have a big difference in pressure needs so going to a fixed pressure isn't going to be a problem and some people just feel like they sleep better and feel better with fixed pressures.
Me....I don't want to use 15 cm all night just to take care of the 20% of the night I might be in REM and need more pressure.
I prefer auto adjusting mode and let the machine sort it out. I sleep through the changes anyway.
So auto mode isn't a bad thing at all. Sometimes it's the best thing for some people.
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hmmmm. I guess I didnt realize he had changed the machine. Weird thing, he tried increase it in CPAP mode to 9 or 10 and i felt it was too strong. Maybe like pugs mentioned when 1st falling asleep I need less pressure, but for this time frame. I checked the whole sleep cycle. I went from High 7's to a 13 for a short time (i guess "max" really is max, or theres a bug in oscar). The majority of time was was between 8-9 on the low side and 11-12 on the high side. There was definite fluctuation in pressure throught the night
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Your point is taken, however if you knew how bad my health is, you'd be hard pressed to say its improved my well being. I may have, but there is literally no way to know. Based on my health, I seriously dont think its done any good. Irrespective of that, the function of a cpap machine is to stop you from having micro arousal which wake you up / interfere with your sleep. If sleep, you' get rest, you're body recuperates, you feel more energetic, you feel rested, all is right with the world. How many people say that once they get therapy? The people who dont arent getting the benefit "advertised"Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:53 pmStatements like this really need to be challenged.
Yes, it appears like your therapy could be optimized. And maybe it *feels* like you're not getting any benefits, or feeling refreshed.
But this idea that is *very prevalent* by CPAP users that if they're not sleeping great or feel benefits, CPAP therapy is not helping them, is nonsense.
Your 20+ years of CPAP therapy has in all likely stopped damaging your body that was being done and probably repaired a lot of it. There are a lot of people who weren't diagnosed with Sleep Apnea or abandoned CPAP, 20+ years ago. They're not complaining, because they're dead.
I'm not feeling any benefit from the Statins I take daily. Should I stop taking them?
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Your response suggests anything but taking the point.
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1. point taken in regards to I understand the point you're trying to make, although by way or your statin analogy, I'm not sure you do.Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:09 amYour response suggests anything but taking the point.
Given your CPAP is interfering with your sleep, and you believe you are not deriving any benefit, unplug it and put it in the closet.
Why are you here?
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Po-tay-toe / Pa-tot-oh.ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:29 amNo. The function of CPAP is to splint the user's airway open during sleep.
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