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Re: bleep changed?

Post by Pugsy » Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:11 pm

onward60 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:15 pm
I see the options at Sureseal. I've never tried Bleep so I don't want to buy the package. I just want to buy whatever I would absolutely need to see if it will work for me. What would that be?

Also, does a person really need all that stuff in the annual kit? The price is horrifying!
No...a person doesn't need all that stuff in the annual package.

There is a small package or test package available for people to test the Bleep and there will be a similar product package for the Eclipse.

Give me a little bit to go find a link to a direct test box of the Bleep stuff.

I will get back with you shortly.

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by Pugsy » Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:25 pm

At SureSeal...the original Bleep
Starter package...$79 ...includes the frame/hose and 2 weeks worth of the DreamPorts...and the DreamPreps which you don't really need..plain old alcohol swabs works and it's cheap.
https://suresealcpap.com/product/bleep- ... er-bundle/

There will be a similar starter package for the Eclipse available soon but at SureSeal now they are offering the Eclipse as 2 products
https://suresealcpap.com/product/bleep-eclipse-halos/ 2 weeks worth of halos...17.99
https://suresealcpap.com/product/bleep- ... tic-frame/ magnetic frame...59.00
These 2 products give you a complete mask and what you get if you ordered a starter package.

On Amazon right now....original Bleep
2 weeks worth of the Dreamports 16.99

https://www.amazon.com/Bleep-Dreamports ... ems&sr=1-1

and the frame/hose part called the Dreamway connector kit...$54.00 for Prime members (so you might see something different)
https://www.amazon.com/Bleep-LLC-DreamW ... 13d670b6bc

The Eclipse starter pack will be available on Amazon in 2 or 3 weeks hopefully.

I do suggest starting with the Eclipse....

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by onward60 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:46 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:25 pm
At SureSeal...the original Bleep
Starter package...$79 ...includes the frame/hose and 2 weeks worth of the DreamPorts...and the DreamPreps which you don't really need..plain old alcohol swabs works and it's cheap.
https://suresealcpap.com/product/bleep- ... er-bundle/

There will be a similar starter package for the Eclipse available soon but at SureSeal now they are offering the Eclipse as 2 products
https://suresealcpap.com/product/bleep-eclipse-halos/ 2 weeks worth of halos...17.99
https://suresealcpap.com/product/bleep- ... tic-frame/ magnetic frame...59.00
These 2 products give you a complete mask and what you get if you ordered a starter package.

On Amazon right now....original Bleep
2 weeks worth of the Dreamports 16.99

https://www.amazon.com/Bleep-Dreamports ... ems&sr=1-1

and the frame/hose part called the Dreamway connector kit...$54.00 for Prime members (so you might see something different)
https://www.amazon.com/Bleep-LLC-DreamW ... 13d670b6bc

The Eclipse starter pack will be available on Amazon in 2 or 3 weeks hopefully.

I do suggest starting with the Eclipse....
I wonder if I wait for amazon if it will be cheaper. My brother has Prime and let me piggyback onto his account. Will I need to get my script to the seller? Also, what are the odds I will need the hose hanging thingy they show in the year package?

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by Pugsy » Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:02 pm

onward60 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:46 pm
I wonder if I wait for amazon if it will be cheaper.
It will likely be very close in price but we have no way to know what Amazon sellers will be asking.
onward60 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:46 pm
Will I need to get my script to the seller?
A script is only required by some people (not all) when a complete mask package is sold. One package containing both the frame and the halos.

When the 2 pieces are purchased separately as they are shown on SureSeal or Amazon when they start selling it, no RX is required.

Replacement parts for any mask don't require a RX but a complete package does. Makes no sense but that's how it is done.
People often buy each part to a mask separately and they just build their own masks with the parts.
A way around the RX requirement if someone can't get a RX.
onward60 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:46 pm
what are the odds I will need the hose hanging thingy they show in the year package?
I don't use a hose hanger....tried it years ago before I even heard about the Bleep and it annoyed me so I haven't ever used one or felt the need.

You can make your own hose hangar though with some stuff laying around the house...or shop online for a different one that isn't so expensive because it doesn't just have to be the hose hangar that gets placed in the bundles.
One of the reasons I passed on a pre order of the annual bundle. I didn't want a hose hangar at all..wouldn't use it and its a waste of money for me. So I didn't buy the annual bundle and got the quarterly bundle instead.

Now others using any cpap mask like to use the hose hanger. I know some people think they are just critical to their needs but a lot of people like me just don't care about it.

I wouldn't go buying it straight away before I even tried the Eclipse. I would wait and see if I even needed it. Try the Eclipse first.

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by onward60 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:10 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:02 pm
onward60 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:46 pm
I wonder if I wait for amazon if it will be cheaper.
It will likely be very close in price but we have no way to know what Amazon sellers will be asking.
onward60 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:46 pm
Will I need to get my script to the seller?
A script is only required by some people (not all) when a complete mask package is sold. One package containing both the frame and the halos.

When the 2 pieces are purchased separately as they are shown on SureSeal or Amazon when they start selling it, no RX is required.

Replacement parts for any mask don't require a RX but a complete package does. Makes no sense but that's how it is done.
People often buy each part to a mask separately and they just build their own masks with the parts.
A way around the RX requirement if someone can't get a RX.
onward60 wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:46 pm
what are the odds I will need the hose hanging thingy they show in the year package?
I don't use a hose hanger....tried it years ago before I even heard about the Bleep and it annoyed me so I haven't ever used one or felt the need.

You can make your own hose hangar though with some stuff laying around the house...or shop online for a different one that isn't so expensive because it doesn't just have to be the hose hangar that gets placed in the bundles.
One of the reasons I passed on a pre order of the annual bundle. I didn't want a hose hangar at all..wouldn't use it and its a waste of money for me. So I didn't buy the annual bundle and got the quarterly bundle instead.

Now others using any cpap mask like to use the hose hanger. I know some people think they are just critical to their needs but a lot of people like me just don't care about it.

I wouldn't go buying it straight away before I even tried the Eclipse. I would wait and see if I even needed it. Try the Eclipse first.

Thanks. This makes sense.

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:33 am

My hose hanger:
* Dollar store swing arm plant hanger (screwed to the wall)
* duck tape
* broken fishing pole
* elastic bands, or sewing elastic

Tape pole to the swing arm; attach elastic to line guides; hang hose on elastic.

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by jlsmithseven » Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:22 am

Does anyone else feel like the hose hanger just doesn't work well with the Bleep? When I was using the Dreamwear with the connection at the top it was wonderful because I move around a lot in my sleep and I never felt the connection. I always feel it with the Bleep because of the weight on my nose. Is the Eclipse better at all? Do most of you keep the machine on the floor with the Bleep?

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by Pugsy » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:04 am

jlsmithseven wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:22 am
Does anyone else feel like the hose hanger just doesn't work well with the Bleep? When I was using the Dreamwear with the connection at the top it was wonderful because I move around a lot in my sleep and I never felt the connection. I always feel it with the Bleep because of the weight on my nose. Is the Eclipse better at all? Do most of you keep the machine on the floor with the Bleep?
You may have misunderstood.....I don't like nor have I ever used a hose hanger but that is just me. I just have never felt like using a hose hanger has been needed for me. My headboard is metal with scrolling metal and I have tried pulling the hose through one of the scrolls to be using the headboard as a hose hanger to hold the hose upwards like a hose hanger does.
I just never saw that using a hose hanger improved anything but mainly I don't feel the need to improve anything....I have always been quite happy with how I route the nose.

And folks.....remember if you use a hose hanger if you get any condensation in the mask itself and the hose goes up over your head that water has no where to go but stay in the mask....water can't run up hill. With my preferred high humidity setting and a cold bedroom setting....I am quite familiar with condensation at the mask itself. I have tons of experience in that area. My preferences set me up for the joy of rain out and I just accept it and deal with it. It's a minimal issue. With the heated hose and the hose cozy I rarely get water in the hose itself...when I get condensation it is 95% of the time at the mask level where the water pools in the barrel of the "pillow".

I have never placed my machine on the floor...my machine sits on a little table that is just about level with my mattress....maybe ever so slightly lower than the mattress. Having the machine on the floor really doesn't help the water drainage for me. I have had water in the hose enough I get a racket and got up out of bed to hold the hose directly vertical and the water doesn't drain well back into the water chamber. Might have something to do with the bend at where the hose attaches to the machine....it's not totally vertical.

Stuart is a cpap user himself...longer than I have been using cpap and he just loves how the hose hanger works for him. Once he discovered the hose hanger thing it made a remarkable difference FOR HIM and that's why he recommends a hose hanger.

I don't really notice any weight on my nose. Or at least not enough to annoy me...but again everyone is different and we all have little things that bug us that might not bug someone else. Everybody is different...those masks where the hose attaches at the top of the head like the DreamWear of ResMed's version have always annoyed me....but others love it and prefer it. I don't care for it.
Again folks...stop and look at where the hose is going if you get condensation....it can't go up hill and since the majority of any condensation I might get is right in the mask itself...it's gonna stay in the mask because of pretty much always having to go up hill.
Take a step back and look at where the water would have to go to. From the mask itself...there is quite often an uphill road to things even if a relatively short distance uphill.

When I am laying in bed I simply don't feel the weight of any mask on my nose...now sitting up in bed is a different story but I don't sleep sitting up in bed. I lay down in bed.

We only had 2 or 3 beta testers for the Eclipse that are here on the forum that I know of. You aren't going to get much in experience from anyone until a lot of others start using the Eclipse.

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by onward60 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:57 am

chunkyfrog wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:33 am
My hose hanger:
* Dollar store swing arm plant hanger (screwed to the wall)
* duck tape
* broken fishing pole
* elastic bands, or sewing elastic

Tape pole to the swing arm; attach elastic to line guides; hang hose on elastic.
You are so creative!

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by onward60 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:01 am

Newbie question. Who is Stuart ?

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by Pugsy » Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:34 am

onward60 wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:01 am
Newbie question. Who is Stuart ?
Owner and inventor of the Bleep.
A sleep tech himself who happens to also have OSA and has been on cpap for over 20 years.
He came up with the idea for the Bleep from his own mask struggles.

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by onward60 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:47 am

Pugsy wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:34 am
onward60 wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:01 am
Newbie question. Who is Stuart ?
Owner and inventor of the Bleep.
A sleep tech himself who happens to also have OSA and has been on cpap for over 20 years.
He came up with the idea for the Bleep from his own mask struggles.
That is so cool.

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by jlsmithseven » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:58 am

Just curious, how did you get picked to do beta testing I would love to do that.

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by Pugsy » Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:20 am

jlsmithseven wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:58 am
Just curious, how did you get picked to do beta testing I would love to do that.
It's all in who you know or whose ass you kiss. :lol:

Myself....back when the original Bleep was just being discussed Jason did a review on it and it wasn't even in production.
I assume Stuart contacted Jason because of his presence on the internet and his forum.
Anyway, I saw Jason's video and I contacted Jason and begged him (and promised to kiss his cute ass) to get me in touch with Stuart because I desperately wanted to try the Bleep. Jason contacted Stuart about me.
I still had to wait probably a year or so before Stuart contacted me and then got with me to get me some Bleep supplies to try in Dec 2018.
I had to sign a NDA as well...which is why I couldn't tell people about the Eclipse trial until Stuart gave me permission to go public.

Now there are Beta testers for the other masks as well...I have no idea how those get picked but probably DME used is a factor.

There is work involved when Beta testing....lots of detailed reporting is needed and often sending lots of reports to Stuart is also needed.

The couple of people here on the forum that also did the Beta testing...I recommended them because I thought they would be good testers.
Beta testers are supposed to look for problems and report on any potential issue that they see that someone else might have.
They have to be nit pickers. :lol: Beta testers are supposed to try to break stuff just to see how easy it is to break something or have problems. It's that feed back that manufacturers need in order to build a better product.

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Re: bleep changed?

Post by jlsmithseven » Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:41 am

Ah I see, well job done well so far the Bleep is a fantastic product and I would’ve given up on cpap by now. For some reason I keep coming back because even on my worst night with dreamports is still better than no mask.