New-ish User, Terrible Results Taking a Nap

[zonker]

With the P10 being so narrow on the side I prefer both it and the Bleep with a non-CPAP-dedicated head pillow - one that is soft, but resilient that is, still gives my head support. It's worth investing the time in finding one that will be comfortable for you.

on the advice of someone here(chunkyfrog?) i have trained myself to sleep on my side with my nose over the edge of the pillow. this gives my p10 plenty of room as it is pretty much suspended.

took me awhile to get into the routine, but now it's habit.

[decker12]

I apologize but I think I am getting your masks confused?

I didn’t think you were using the N30?

I thought the P10 moves and wakes and P10i is more back pain? (same mask basically with teletubby or snufalufagus?)

And the p10 causes marks across the cheeks?

Just to confirm because the model numbers drive me crazy too and I've typed them in so many times I know I must have mis-typed at some point in this thread! Here's what I own:

Resmed P10i: Nose pillows, medium size pillows, this is the lightweight one with a couple of thin straps, hose out the nose. Used it from August to September. Have to go very tight to prevent it from shifting around, and that leaves marks on my face and shoves the pillows deep into my nose. No back pain when I wake up with this.
https://ap.resmed.com/hubfs/p10-quiet-a ... resmed.png

Resmed P30i: Nose pillows, medium size pillows, hose out the top, more plastic/bulkier than P10. Have been using since October 1st. Comfortable for me and works well, but I wake up with back pain using this. Going tighter or looser does not change my morning back pain.
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For the next few days I am going to give up on my P30 (and my back pain!) and switch back to the P10. I do have those padacheek cozies (well, an off-brand) which I will try to rig up into my P10 tonight and see how it goes.

[ozij]

Just to confirm because the model numbers drive me crazy too and I've typed them in so many times I know I must have mis-typed at some point in this thread! Here's what I own:

Resmed P10i: Nose pillows, medium size pillows, this is the lightweight one with a couple of thin straps, hose out the nose. Used it from August to September. Have to go very tight to prevent it from shifting around, and that leaves marks on my face and shoves the pillows deep into my nose. No back pain when I wake up with this.
https://ap.resmed.com/hubfs/p10-quiet-a ... resmed.png

P10, no "i". Welcome to the family of mis-typers. I'm a terrible one too. Have you tried different size pillows for this one? Looked at the instructions for placing the straps on your head? If you have, then maybe it's not for you. If you haven't - do. The placement of the straps on your head is counter-intuitive (to me at least) but it the instructions do work.

For the next few days I am going to give up on my P30 (and my back pain!) and switch back to the P10. I do have those padacheek cozies (well, an off-brand) which I will try to rig up into my P10 tonight and see how it goes.

Good luck, and keep us posted!

[lynninnj]

I find the conventions frustrating myself.

F-full
P-pillow
N-nasal

"i" hose going up the cheeks and attaching over the head

No P10i just P30i.
But theres an N30 and an N30i.

::Shrug::

Edit: Howd it go last night with the juice turned up to 9?

[decker12]

Howd it go last night with the juice turned up to 9?

It actually went pretty well with the P10! Those padded sleeves on the mask straps definitely helped and I was able to tighten the straps a bit more knowing I had the extra padding. No lines on my face this morning either. I did have a little bit of humidity leakage - strangely not in my nose, but it did kind of like leak out the side of the nose pillow mounting area where there's tiny vent holes. So it just got my pillow a little wet. That being said, it's the first time I've ever had humidity problems but it's also the first couple of days of using the heated hose and the first night using the P10 WITH the heated hose. I'm using the heated hose, on Auto heat (whatever that means!), Humidity set to 5. I also have my hose covered in a padded cozy sleeve, otherwise the cats go nuts when they hear the plastic tubing scraping against my night table. So I don't really want to remove that. Should I change the heat level or the humidity to prevent the moisture build up?

The air was fine at a 9, to be honest I didn't really notice a difference from a 8. I think tonight I'll increase the starting ramp up pressure from 6 to 7 and tack on another 5 minutes to the ramp up timer. It takes me longer to fall asleep after I've made adjustments to my mask or settings.

But yeah! Good night's rest last night and woke up without the sore back. I'll give it a few more days and check my stats from SleepHQ.

[lynninnj]

Howd it go last night with the juice turned up to 9?

It actually went pretty well with the P10! Those padded sleeves on the mask straps definitely helped and I was able to tighten the straps a bit more knowing I had the extra padding. No lines on my face this morning either. I did have a little bit of humidity leakage - strangely not in my nose, but it did kind of like leak out the side of the nose pillow mounting area where there's tiny vent holes. So it just got my pillow a little wet. That being said, it's the first time I've ever had humidity problems but it's also the first couple of days of using the heated hose and the first night using the P10 WITH the heated hose. I'm using the heated hose, on Auto heat (whatever that means!), Humidity set to 5. I also have my hose covered in a padded cozy sleeve, otherwise the cats go nuts when they hear the plastic tubing scraping against my night table. So I don't really want to remove that. Should I change the heat level or the humidity to prevent the moisture build up?

The air was fine at a 9, to be honest I didn't really notice a difference from a 8. I think tonight I'll increase the starting ramp up pressure from 6 to 7 and tack on another 5 minutes to the ramp up timer. It takes me longer to fall asleep after I've made adjustments to my mask or settings.

But yeah! Good night's rest last night and woke up without the sore back. I'll give it a few more days and check my stats from SleepHQ.

Great! So glad to hear that the pieces are falling into place, hopefully.

But come on and dish!

where did the ahi land? (again i know it’s not everything)

my understanding is auto adjusts to maintain a steady level based on ambient air.

[lynninnj]

One more thought about the ramp.

If you get up to use the bathroom in the middle of the night it probably doesn’t take as long to fall back to sleep. If you set it on longer ramp but fall right back to sleep it’s still has to ramp and may prove harder to prevent events.

I find even awake but post ramp period I am not bothered by pressure increase. Not sure why I use it at all myself other than to allow myself just a few minutes to settle before events and flow limits register.

hope that made sense

[Julie]

Lower the humidity and see how that goes.

[decker12]

Had an interesting night's sleep last night with the P10. Woke up at about 5AM and the mask and the air just didn't feel right. It felt like I couldn't exhale properly, almost like a vent was blocked (nothing was). The inhale felt "off" too. The air from the mask felt too warm (but I was fine with it all night), it all just felt too stuffy, and my stomach/body just felt very "full" like I was stuffed up like a balloon. I need to check out the data from the SD card to see what could have been going on. I took off the mask.

However I did fall back asleep without the mask and my wife confirmed that I was snoring like crazy for that extra 90 minutes. That's the first time I actually fell asleep for more than 10 minutes without my mask in months. Now I feel like I have an aching (but not really sore) throat, but it's in the upper part of my throat. Before I go freaking myself out thinking it's COVID somehow (I was not exposed to anyone all week), is that something that sounds normal when you somehow get to sleep without your mask? For me it was only about 90 minutes of sleeping without my mask.

[decker12]

Lower the humidity and see how that goes.

Now that I'm using the heated hose, I no longer have an option for setting the Humidity level unless I turn off "Auto". So I can't move it from a 5 to a 4. Which means I then have to pick a temperature for the heated hose if I want to lower my humdity level. Any idea what temperature I should set it to? Should it be slightly warmer than my typical bedroom temperature or closer to my body temperature? Can I turn Temperature OFF of Auto, set the Humidity to a 3, then put Temperature BACK on Auto, and will it stick to the 3 I just put in?

[Pugsy]

You can set both humidity and heated hose temperature separately if you wish.
You don't have to use "auto" for either unless you want to.
I have a heated hose...prefer lots of humidity so set to 8 and the heated hose temp could be either "auto" or manual and set to 86 degrees and I need that much heated air with that much added moisture.

[decker12]

You can set both humidity and heated hose temperature separately if you wish.
You don't have to use "auto" for either unless you want to.
I have a heated hose...prefer lots of humidity so set to 8 and the heated hose temp could be either "auto" or manual and set to 86 degrees and I need that much heated air with that much added moisture.

I don't see those settings in my Resmed 11. When I plug in the NON-heated hose, I can set the Humidity.

When I plug in the heated hose, I cannot set the Humidity unless I turn off "Auto Climate Control". When I turn that to Manual, I have to choose a humidity level AND a Tube Temperature. That's the crux of my question. I have no option to change the humidity level AND keep the Tube Temperature on Auto.

I don't mind turning Auto to Manual, but I just don't know what temperature I should try first. Shame that SleepHQ doesn't show me what my tube temperature was set at when it's on Auto, that way I could get an idea if Auto meant 72 or 86.

[Pugsy]

Do you have some sort of digital cooking thermometer to check the hose air temp?

[decker12]

Do you have some sort of digital cooking thermometer to check the hose air temp?

Great idea! I'll check the air temp as soon as I remove my hose in the morning but before the auto-shut down turns off. That'll give me a great place to start!

[lynninnj]

Do you have some sort of digital cooking thermometer to check the hose air temp?

Great idea! I'll check the air temp as soon as I remove my hose in the morning but before the auto-shut down turns off. That'll give me a great place to start!

Someone posted it here once and sorry I just can't remember what was said. I will see if I can get time later to check my owners manual.

I thought that auto keeps adjusting to a steady temp and humidity, varying based on ambient conditions. I haven't fiddled with this much but for some reason 82 degrees keeps coming to mind (the sleephq settings data usually says 27c which i think can be 80 or 82 on the machine.)

You could try to look at your old daily sleephq and see what settings show up for humidity (i know you didn't have the heated hose) but there ya go its a start. When I get home later I can maybe check.

How are the AHI coming along?

Edit: Tube temp 82 humidity setting of 5 for me. HTH