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[Dog Slobber]

How can you tell if someone is a Vegan?
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Don't worry, in no time at all, they'll tell you.

From this article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... h-animals

But in a vegan’s ideal world, slaughter and unnecessary pain would no longer exist – and when you know there is a more compassionate alternative, it’s hard not to mention it once or twice.

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over and over.

[chunkyfrog]

Some soil is not appropriate to grow crops.
Dust bowls result from tilling land that is too fragile for any use but grazing.
My own state has vast areas of stabilized sand dunes, capable of sustaining only forage grasses.
There are huge scars where some idiots thought they could plant.
Some of these areas may never recover from that abuse.
Imagine miles long blowouts--beaches hundreds of miles from a shore.
I lived on a large cattle ranch.
We had a generous garden, but only for our table.
Large scale tillage destroys this delicate land.

[chunkyfrog]

Texans could have averted this disaster, or minimized it,
if they had chosen to keep a stockpile of coal for emergency power.
Coal is cheap and easy to store--but to accumulate a reserve requires PLANNING.
Obviously something not considered in Texas.
Put the blame where it belongs.

[Goofproof]

Texans could have averted this disaster, or minimized it,
if they had chosen to keep a stockpile of coal for emergency power.
Coal is cheap and easy to store--but to accumulate a reserve requires PLANNING.
Obviously something not considered in Texas.
Put the blame where it belongs.

Sounds to me like Texas allowed to many Californians to defect to Texas, causing them not to plan well. Jim

P.S. Coal for steam generation doesn't store well after it's mined.... Steam Coal oxidizes, and burns when stored, unless it is hard packed by a bull dozer to keep air from it, even then it still degrades. We would have to store it on the ground, to make room to meet different requirements, at different power plants.

[chunkyfrog]

Texans could have averted this disaster, or minimized it,
if they had chosen to keep a stockpile of coal for emergency power.
Coal is cheap and easy to store--but to accumulate a reserve requires PLANNING.
Obviously something not considered in Texas.
Put the blame where it belongs.

Sounds to me like Texas allowed to many Californians to defect to Texas, causing them not to plan well. Jim

Some Californians are like locusts--you can't stop them.

[babydinosnoreless]

This sounds like you have never spent time on a beef ranch. Beef cattle are treated lovingly, fed near-perfect diets, always have clean water and have medical checks twice per day. They are social animals and have a good social life 24x7. They lead better lives than most humans on the planet.

Oh, they also die very quick deaths. If you have any experience in human society, you know that the majority of humans suffer, sometimes for long periods and sometimes horribly, before they die.

If everyone were vegetarian, cows would have no life at all.

I lived next door to a cattle farm and saw many of those when I lived in rural Missouri. The cries of the mothers when the calves were removed was heartbreaking. Also, there are feed lots that are inhumane and spread disease. As Paul McCartney said, if slaughterhouses had glass walls, there would be more vegetarians.

There are 2 boxes hit on the bingo card with this post:
"Describes the happy farm animal they once saw somewhere."

"Asks what would happen to the cows if we didn't eat them."

Lived across the street from a dairy and down the block from the feed lots. My uncle the truck driver drove the cows to the slaughter house which wasn't too far from where my cousins lived. I've played with the baby pigs fed the chickens and collected the egss. I have zero problem eating beef, chicken or pork. I will NEVER give it up for the nasty chemical filled gmo fake food Gates and pals are pushing. You all can take your plant based poison and file it in the round can. It will never be part of my families diet.

[palerider]

We have Adventist friends who eat vegan/vegetarian.
I respect their choices, but they benefit from decades of nutritional research
to minimize the hazards of that diet.
Please respect the choices of those of us who consume beasts and their milk,
and consider it both nutritious and palatable.

I will always respect the wide-scale suffering of animals over taste buds and questionable nutrition. They are feeling beings, not "meat" or "beasts" and are subject to the same suffering and joys of other living creatures

Then they should vote.

[palerider]

I will always respect the wide-scale suffering of animals over taste buds and questionable nutrition.

This sounds like you have never spent time on a beef ranch. Beef cattle are treated lovingly, fed near-perfect diets, always have clean water and have medical checks twice per day. They are social animals and have a good social life 24x7. They lead better lives than most humans on the planet.

Oh, they also die very quick deaths. If you have any experience in human society, you know that the majority of humans suffer, sometimes for long periods and sometimes horribly, before they die.

If everyone were vegetarian, cows would have no life at all.

You can't reason with people who've decided to have an emotion about something.

[palerider]

Some vegans will not drink beer that has been clarified with ising glass.
(Dried fish swim bladder.)
Or marshmallows, gum drops, or jelly beans--(gelatin.)
Grim, to say the least.

Nah, not grim, there are vegan versions of most food these days that come without the cruelty of factory farming. Marshmallows, gum drops, and jelly beans are not that high on my must-haves, but YMMV. The longer I'm away from a meat/dairy-based diet, the more healthier I find myself eating and enjoying it. Taste buds do change for the better.

Nobody cares what you decide to do with your life.

Where you cross the line is when you're preaching and judging others.

"How do you know if someone's a vegan???? Don't worry, THEY'LL TELL YOU! (AND TELL YOU and tell you"

edit: oops, it's been done

[babydinosnoreless]

Texans could have averted this disaster, or minimized it,
if they had chosen to keep a stockpile of coal for emergency power.
Coal is cheap and easy to store--but to accumulate a reserve requires PLANNING.
Obviously something not considered in Texas.
Put the blame where it belongs.

Sounds to me like Texas allowed to many Californians to defect to Texas, causing them not to plan well. Jim

Some Californians are like locusts--you can't stop them.

Snicker. I'm hard core conservative Arizonan through and through but technically I was born in LA. I personally think we put the fence on the wrong border we should have put it between California and the rest of the country.

[palerider]

Texans could have averted this disaster, or minimized it,
if they had chosen to keep a stockpile of coal for emergency power.
Coal is cheap and easy to store--but to accumulate a reserve requires PLANNING.
Obviously something not considered in Texas.
Put the blame where it belongs.

The problem is more complex, (speaking as a Texan), at it's root was the aggressive deregulation of the power industry, removing all incentives to *PREPARE* for extremes, so we had 30+gigawats of power plants trip off the grid, Gas fired powerplants that had inadequate protection against the coal, even one of the nuclear plants had cold related problems, and yes, I think even some coal plants.

Had there been alternative fuel, (not coal, because you can't burn coal in a gas plant, but you *CAN* burn oil), if they had provided adequate insulation, if if if if....

The *idiots* at Faux "news" immediately targeted their lie machine at the wind farms and some of the turbines that froze (because they'd been allowed to cheap out on constructing those, and didn't have anti-icing capabilities (Wind turbines work in northern Europe, Sweden, Norway, Antarctica for god's sake) but that was only about 5gw of power that dropped off the grid, it was *minor* and wind is still producing more than they forecast in this situation.

No, it wasn't 'no coal', it was an inadequately regulated industry.

[palerider]

Texans could have averted this disaster, or minimized it,
if they had chosen to keep a stockpile of coal for emergency power.
Coal is cheap and easy to store--but to accumulate a reserve requires PLANNING.
Obviously something not considered in Texas.
Put the blame where it belongs.

Sounds to me like Texas allowed to many Californians to defect to Texas, causing them not to plan well. Jim

Spoken like someone who has no connection with facts.

[Tricky Wash]

An atheist, a crossfitter, and a vegan walked into a bar.

How do I know?

Within five minutes they had told everyone in the bar.

[ChicagoGranny]

The cries of the mothers when the calves were removed was (sic) heartbreaking.

Since you are into anthropomorphizing, here are two anecdotes.

A young friend told me about her ride with her parents to the freshman dorm for the first time. It was a 2.5-hour drive and she bawled all the way. Her mother later told her she bawled all the way home that day.

My youngest daughter cried and didn't want to let go of me when we dropped her at the dorm. Four years later, she cried because her college life was over when we picked her up after graduation.

You are free to eat whatever you choose.

[ChicagoGranny]

You can't reason with people who've decided to have an emotion about something.

"Reason and logic will not change a person's position when they didn't get to that position with reason and logic." - Neil deGrasse Tyson