Do you trust the sizing tools for the CPAP cushions? Are some brands' more reliable than others? I'm struggling with finding good masks, and with the combination of covid restrictions and a very unhelpful respiratory therapist at my medical supply company, I haven't been able to try different sizes on. So I'm stuck at home, printing out sizing guides and making private-pay orders, and since my face isn't the exact proportion of what I think the mask makers consider to be standard, I'm a little less confident about the sizes that the unhelpful person has recommended to me.
One specific one that I'm looking at is the Philips Comfortgel nasal mask. I printed the template and watched the video of a guy being sized, but his face is rounder than mine (the bone structure of my face is a somewhat long and narrow). Width-wise, I'd fit the small cushion, but vertically, it looks like the medium would cover the same amount of nose as the guy in the video. I haven't worn this type of mask yet, so I don't know how high up the nose the nasal mask has to be to keep it from pushing in on the nostrils from above, and I also don't know how far out to the side a nasal mask can go before it leads to leaks with side sleepers.
Any thoughts on either general sizing reliability or the fit of that specific mask?
Sizing Tool Reliability, esp. for Nasal Masks
Re: Sizing Tool Reliability, esp. for Nasal Masks
I think the Comfort Gel is on the way out. Prices have been reduced down to $33. That would not happen if the mask was going to continue,
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Re: Sizing Tool Reliability, esp. for Nasal Masks
Interesting point. Is there a nasal mask (over the nose style) from Philips that is newer than Comfort Gel? They don't make it easy to figure out which ones are the most up to date.
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Re: Sizing Tool Reliability, esp. for Nasal Masks
Of course it's not. They want to sell masks that will never fit.
I suggested using 3d imagery for no-touch mask matching over ten years ago.
They do it for eyeglasses, but . . . GREED.
I suggested using 3d imagery for no-touch mask matching over ten years ago.
They do it for eyeglasses, but . . . GREED.
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Re: Sizing Tool Reliability, esp. for Nasal Masks
Wouldn't surprise me. And wouldn't that 3d imagery be wonderful? Instead I had a Resp. Therapist watch me attempt to size myself in a zoom meeting, and advised me to get sizes that are too small. On the other hand, if they start using 3d imagery, it will definitely be with a proprietary machine that will make it harder to measure without their involvement.chunkyfrog wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:15 amOf course it's not. They want to sell masks that will never fit.
I suggested using 3d imagery for no-touch mask matching over ten years ago.
They do it for eyeglasses, but . . . GREED.
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Re: Sizing Tool Reliability, esp. for Nasal Masks
Your zoom "fitting" sounds like a DISASTER!
Obviously, the 3d tool would have to be independent of all manufacturers to be useful.
The computing power of most smartphones should be equal to the challenge.
Even a single lens video could be processed to generate fair 3d images.
3d images of different masks could be compiled into an online database,
--with or without permission--as long as the service is non-profit.
Facial recognition is done all the time--mask matching is next.
Obviously, the 3d tool would have to be independent of all manufacturers to be useful.
The computing power of most smartphones should be equal to the challenge.
Even a single lens video could be processed to generate fair 3d images.
3d images of different masks could be compiled into an online database,
--with or without permission--as long as the service is non-profit.
Facial recognition is done all the time--mask matching is next.
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Re: Sizing Tool Reliability, esp. for Nasal Masks
I don't know about phillips but resmed has an over the nose, the N20, that works well for me. The smaller the better IMO less area to leak from. Take a look at it, if you like I'm sure I have an old small cushion I can send you to give you an idea on sizing.
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