Oxygen and CPAP Connection Questions

[zonker]

User, (and service) manuals are available online, get to lookin.

how likely do you think it will be that the op does this?

[palerider]

User, (and service) manuals are available online, get to lookin.

how likely do you think it will be that the op does this?

Somewhere between 0.0001% and none.

But a boy can dream.

[MarylandCPAPer2]

The delivery man from the DME placed the oxygen adaptor directly to the Airsense 10 hose connector, then connected the hose. When I was in the hospital, the oxygen adapter was connected between the hose and the hose to my mask. Any thoughts on which is more effective?

I don't know what you mean. If you're asking whether it makes any difference which end of the hose the adapter goes to, then the answer is "it doesn't".
Resmed makes a heated hose designed specifically for use with oxygen, the ClimatelineAir™ Oxy, get one of those for your next tube replacement, it's got an O2 connector built in. [/quote}

The DME delivery man put the O2 adaptor directly into the A10's hose connector in the back of the A10. I didn't get to sleep until I moved the O2 adaptor to connect the hose and the mask, at the mask connection, as it was in the hospital. Just woke up from about 12 hours of sleep with the CPAP and am ready to go to bed. I have a heated hose but never used it. If I stick with the unheated hose, does the O2 adaptor/connector location to the CPAP machine matter?

I am exhausted and can't even imagine that lugging a tank to the grocery store for the tiny amount of oxygen I get would do anything except make me even more short of breath than I already am, especially with a COVID mask over the nasal cannula. 4 lbs is heavy for me.

You REALLY need to get over this mask fixation you have. Masks don't restrict your breathing, they don't restrict oxygen, they don't cause buildup of CO2, the only effect they have on breathing is *MENTAL*.

If *ANYTHING*, having a mask over the cannula will *INCREASE* the amount of oxygen you get.

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I wore a mask over the cannula at home while the DME was here and then was short of breath after going 10 feet to check mail after he left. When I took the mask off, because the DME guy was gone, I may have been slightly less winded. The COVID mask DOES make a difference in my breathing during exertion.Maybe not so much sitting still with a mask. You don't have to believe it. I experience it. I am not anti-COVID mask. I just know it makes my breathing harder in the summer heat outside and during activity (aka walking). I don't see other people in the store having the same problem. It is MY problem with MY breathing.

Is 2 Liters of O2 going to make that big a difference? Would I get more O2 if I used a shorter O2 line? Right now, the line I am using is 50 foot long. The next shortest length is 25 feet, which I don't think is enough for me to drag the line all over the house. The Ox concentrator is in the living room and most of my activity is at the other end of the house or on another floor, so I picked the longest O2 line they offered. They left me with 25 foot, 7 foot and 4 foot long lines, I think. The 7 foot and 4 foot lines would be used with the portable tank.

How long does it take for a person to feel a positive effect from using continuous 2L oxygen?

Thank you for your help.

Maryland CPAPer2

[palerider]

The DME delivery man put the O2 adaptor directly into the A10's hose connector in the back of the A10. I didn't get to sleep until I moved the O2 adaptor to connect the hose and the mask, at the mask connection, as it was in the hospital. Just woke up from about 12 hours of sleep with the CPAP and am ready to go to bed. I have a heated hose but never used it. If I stick with the unheated hose, does the O2 adaptor/connector location to the CPAP machine matter?

As I said, it does not matter where on the hose you put the adapter.
it's much more convenient to put the adapter by the cpap, instead of on the mask end of the hose, because then you don't have another hose coming up to the mask that you have to manage.

I wore a mask over the cannula at home while the DME was here and then was short of breath after going 10 feet to check mail after he left. When I took the mask off, because the DME guy was gone, I may have been slightly less winded. The COVID mask DOES make a difference in my breathing during exertion.Maybe not so much sitting still with a mask. You don't have to believe it. I experience it. I am not anti-COVID mask. I just know it makes my breathing harder in the summer heat outside and during activity (aka walking). I don't see other people in the store having the same problem. It is MY problem with MY breathing.

I don't believe it, I wear a mask for *hours* at a time every day I'm in the clinic, if you're having trouble breathing through your "covid mask" then you need to get a different mask.

Would I get more O2 if I used a shorter O2 line?

No

How long does it take for a person to feel a positive effect from using continuous 2L oxygen?

minutes.

[klm49]

So sad people can't keep their political views off the pages. I seriously doubt the current President changed the rules to have Medicare pay for oxygen.

https://www.medicarefaq.com/faqs/medica ... n-therapy/

So sad that some people can't avoid twisting things into something they're not.

trump
noun: trump; plural noun: trumps

(in bridge, whist, and similar card games) a playing card of the suit chosen to rank above the others, which can win a trick where a card of a different suit has been led.
the suit having the rank above the others in a particular hand.
"the ace of trumps"
(in a tarot pack) any of a special suit of 22 cards depicting symbolic and typical figures and scenes.
a valuable resource that may be used, especially as a surprise, in order to gain an advantage.
noun: trump card; plural noun: trump cards
"in this month General Haig decided to play his trump card: the tank"
informal•dated
a helpful or admirable person.

verb
verb: trump; 3rd person present: trumps; past tense: trumped; past participle: trumped; gerund or present participle: trumping

(in bridge, whist, and similar card games) play a trump on (a card of another suit), having no cards of the suit led.

Of course, in French, 'trump' is slang for FART

Unfortunately your verbosity is truly a waste as the quotes in the original post tell the story and please no pseudo lecture on grammatical rules as it is quite obvious what was inferred.
p.s. you need a new French slang dictionary

[Pugsy]

Enough with the snarky comments already.
Get back on topic or risk having further off topic posts removed.
One warning and this is it.

[MarylandCPAPer2]

After unhooking the O2 line from the CPAP and hooking it up to the O2 cannula line, I noticed water or air bubbles in the cannula line. I eventually got some water splashed in the nose by the nasal cannula. Does this mean the O2 concentrator or line is finally working or that something it is NOT working?

I also noticed that the humidifier tank line on the o2 concentrator is at "Minimum." The DME delivery man filled it on Friday afternoon (about 48 hours ago) to maximum with bottled spring water I had on hand. He said to empty, clean, and refill the humidifier tank about once a week. He said it didn't use up water such that it would need to be refilled more than once a week. Aside from the need to use distilled water, which I plan to buy before I use this miserable machine (02 concentrator) any more, is it unusual for the O2 concentrator to use up the humidifier water so soon (and spit at me through my nose)?

The A10 CPAP machine routinely requires refilling at least once every 6 hours or so, and has since the day I got it.

I still am not convinced I got ANY oxygen from the O2 concentrator through the cannula or CPAP machine, UNTIL the rainout incident. After that, I believe that something is making it through the O2 line, if only water. Any ideas?

This is a serious post. Only serious replies requested.

[palerider]

Of course, in French, 'trump' is slang for FART

p.s. you need a new French slang dictionary

You're absolutely correct, my bad...

It's a British slang word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux848MsW_b4

My apologies.

[palerider]

After unhooking the O2 line from the CPAP and hooking it up to the O2 cannula line, I noticed water or air bubbles in the cannula line. I eventually got some water splashed in the nose by the nasal cannula. Does this mean the O2 concentrator or line is finally working or that something it is NOT working?

It means that water is condensing in the line, the concentrator either works within a couple of minutes, or it's faulty. Does it have an O2 purity monitor built in?

I also noticed that the humidifier tank line on the o2 concentrator is at "Minimum." The DME delivery man filled it on Friday afternoon (about 48 hours ago) to maximum with bottled spring water I had on hand. He said to empty, clean, and refill the humidifier tank about once a week. He said it didn't use up water such that it would need to be refilled more than once a week.

Another incorrect statement by your DME.

I still am not convinced I got ANY oxygen from the O2 concentrator through the cannula or CPAP machine, UNTIL the rainout incident. After that, I believe that something is making it through the O2 line, if only water. Any ideas?

Belief is a difficult thing to shake. It's quite easy to see whether there's any flow, watch the flow meter and put your finger over the end of the canula tips... see how the ball in the flow meter drops?

Whether you believe that the concentrator is working or not, act like it is, so you don't end up like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDLIyjwtNrg

And don't leave the canula laying around while the concentrator is running:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bXIhtXrRVA

Notice how the flame travels up the tube, causing the tube to burn from the inside out, as it behaves like a blowtorch.

Be *exceedingly* careful, no matter what you believe

[MarylandCPAPer2]

After unhooking the O2 line from the CPAP and hooking it up to the O2 cannula line, I noticed water or air bubbles in the cannula line. I eventually got some water splashed in the nose by the nasal cannula. Does this mean the O2 concentrator or line is finally working or that something it is NOT working?

It means that water is condensing in the line, the concentrator either works within a couple of minutes, or it's faulty.

Is it a good thing if water is condensing in the line, or a malfunction?

The water or air bubbles and rainout appeared after the O2 concentrator had been running for 48 hours and the line from the concentrator had just been moved from the back of my A10 machine to the nasal cannula. Doe that give an indication if it is working or faulty?

Or does it mean that the humidifier bottle is at the minimum line and needs attention?

Does it have an O2 purity monitor built in?

yes

The oxygen concentrator model I got is an Invacare Platinum XL, Home Fill Compatible with Sens O2. User manual (not provided by DME) is at:
http://www.invacare.com/product_files/1118353.pdf

Service manual is at:
https://www.manualslib.com/products/Inv ... 06550.html

Thanks for the warnings. I don't smoke. So far, I have had the oxygen line from the concentrator to the cannula attached to my nose or the oxygen line unplugged from the cannula line and into the A10. I left the house for a while and turned the O2 concentrator off for the duration.

Please pardon me if I am not using the correct terms. I am asking serious questions to which I don't know the answers, even if my questions sound stupid.

Maryland CPAPer2

[palerider]

Or does it mean that the humidifier bottle is at the minimum line and needs attention?

If the water is at minimum, then *THAT* means it needs more water.

Alternatively, you could see if you care if there's added humidity or not.

Does it have an O2 purity monitor built in?

yes

Then you're getting oxygen, otherwise the alarm would start shrieking, the red light would come on, and the unit would shut down.

[MarylandCPAPer2]

My CPAP hose is now making gurgling sounds while the oxygen concentrator humidifier is hooked to my CPAP. It is not sending any unwanted water or rainout. Is this normal or a malfunction?

MdCPAPer2

[khauser]

My CPAP hose is now making gurgling sounds while the oxygen concentrator humidifier is hooked to my CPAP. It is not sending any unwanted water or rainout. Is this normal or a malfunction?

MdCPAPer2

That is rainout. If it isn't reaching your nose, call yourself lucky.

OR perhaps you have the water level too high in the humidifier and the O2 is bubbling, but that's pretty unlikely...

If it is rainout you would see moisture bubbling about in the hose near the CPAP machine. A heated hose would be my recommended solution.