Feeling different in the morning, depending on type of mask used?

[Revived1]

Has anyone else experienced this? When I started on CPAP, a few months ago, I started with a full face mask, (the Resmed Mirage Quattro FF Mask). It got my hourly events down to below 1 per hour, and each day, I'd wake up feeling really wide awake right from the first day I used it.
I tried a couple of other masks, and have settled on the N30i nasal mask, but I seem to find that I don't have quite as much energy when I wake up, even though the events are usually still below 1 per hour. Is this just my imagination, or has anyone else found this to be the case when going from a full face mask to a nasal mask?...or even just one type of mask to a different type...nasal or full-face.
I guess there's a chance that I'm just getting used to having energy again after not having had it for many years. Anyway, would be interested to know if anyone else has felt a difference with different masks, even though hourly events are the same with both. Thanks.

[khauser]

Do you use Oscar? I would be looking for evidence of leaks.

Why did you switch masks if the first was working so well for you?

[zonker]

I guess there's a chance that I'm just getting used to having energy again after not having had it for many years. Anyway, would be interested to know if anyone else has felt a difference with different masks, even though hourly events are the same with both. Thanks.

can't say that i've tried changing masks. no need to as i've discovered my forever mask.

i'm thinking you've got your answer right there. you've gotten used to the process and getting your energy back.

and i believe in the power of coincidence, too.

whichever the ever and whatever the what, i'd take it as a win and move on.

[Revived1]

Thank you for the replies.

Do you use Oscar? I would be looking for evidence of leaks.

Why did you switch masks if the first was working so well for you?

I would love to use Oscar, and I have downloaded it on my computer, but maybe because I'm currently hiring a machine, no info. will go from the SD card to Oscar. I'll be getting my own machine soon, and I'll get Oscar sorted then. Re: leaks, the machine gives me a smiley face in the leaks section, so I think it's okay in that respect, but thank you for that suggestion.
Re: why I switched masks, the Quattro was only working well in getting my numbers down, but it was waking me all the time with leaks, and I couldn't really get it under control. I'm only a newbie at this whole thing, and I don't think the Quattro is a good mask for beginners....or maybe it's just this particular beginner. Not sure.
I just wondered if maybe there was more oxygen pushed into the body by some masks than others, but if no-one else has noticed this happening, it's probably just my imagination. I'd been thinking that if it was something that happened to everyone, I might give the Quattro another go. Since it's not the case, I'll just keep the Quattro for if I get a cold or something along those lines.
Thanks again for the reply.

[Revived1]

I guess there's a chance that I'm just getting used to having energy again after not having had it for many years. Anyway, would be interested to know if anyone else has felt a difference with different masks, even though hourly events are the same with both. Thanks.

can't say that i've tried changing masks. no need to as i've discovered my forever mask.

i'm thinking you've got your answer right there. you've gotten used to the process and getting your energy back.

and i believe in the power of coincidence, too.

whichever the ever and whatever the what, i'd take it as a win and move on.

Hi zonker. I'm glad you've found your forever mask. That's great. I think I'm going to stick with the N30i for a long time, too. Not sure if it's my 'forever' one, but I'm finding it suits me for now, at least. Because I started my treatment in the COVID 'era', I couldn't try on any masks, and just had to pick one, so I just picked the one that I thought was best...not really knowing what were the most important parts of masks.
Re: taking it as a win and moving on, yep...I'll do that. I think it must have been coincidence, as you mention. It probably just happened that I had a little less energy, or got more used to having energy, at the same time as I changed masks.
Thanks for your reply. I love reading your posts on here, along with all the other people who give advice and have a good sense of humour.
While I'm on the subject, thank you to everyone who helps us newbies on here. It's great that you give your time to help others. I've learnt a lot on here, and will keep learning a lot, for sure.

[Pugsy]

I just wondered if maybe there was more oxygen pushed into the body by some masks than others, but if no-one else has noticed this happening, it's probably just my imagination.

The mask type itself doesn't really affect the amount of oxygen going into the body...it's all the same room air oxygen going into the mask and then into the lungs. From an oxygen level standpoint...no difference.
Now there still might be a difference in other factors that can affect sleep or therapy or how you feel.

You should still be able to use OSCAR....data on the SD card isn't relative to a machine being rented or not.
What message do you see or get when you try to download? Is your machine model the AutoSet you show in your profile? If so, the data is there and should show up.

[zonker]

Hi zonker. I'm glad you've found your forever mask. That's great.

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i got VERY lucky. the p10 was the fourth mask i tried. and i read on here that very often people have to go through all kinds to get to "the one".

i didn't have much choice, though. i'm a full bearded fellow and i was NOT going to shave. stubborn, i am! but thought i would have to do a full face because i was convinced i was a mouth breather. but couldn't get a seal because of the beard.

but using the p10 turned out good. i use a rig to keep my yap closed and have carried on ever since.

here's hoping you find your "forever" mask soon!

[Revived1]

I just wondered if maybe there was more oxygen pushed into the body by some masks than others, but if no-one else has noticed this happening, it's probably just my imagination.

The mask type itself doesn't really affect the amount of oxygen going into the body...it's all the same room air oxygen going into the mask and then into the lungs. From an oxygen level standpoint...no difference.
Now there still might be a difference in other factors that can affect sleep or therapy or how you feel.

You should still be able to use OSCAR....data on the SD card isn't relative to a machine being rented or not.
What message do you see or get when you try to download? Is your machine model the AutoSet you show in your profile? If so, the data is there and should show up.

Thank you for your reply, pugsy. Yes, the machine is the Autoset shown in my profile.
Just now, after reading your reply, I had another try at getting the info. off the SD card, and I have my info. on Oscar now!!! OMG, I am so excited!!! I've been looking at everyone else's Oscar results on here for so long, and wishing I could use it. Now, I can! I'll have to work out how to put things on here properly, but I'll have a go at that a bit later. Funnily enough, last night was the worst night I've had since starting CPAP. I had over 3 events per hour, which is nothing major, but funny that that would happen just the night before I was able to get the info. off the SD card. I tried the SD card thing the wrong way before. Tried to get the info. onto the computer from the SD card so I could put it onto Oscar, but now I realise it goes directly from the card to Oscar.
I think my results will be a bit garbled because I also have delayed sleep phase syndrome, so sometimes my sleep will go across midday, eg. 7am to 2pm, and Oscar will cut it at midday, but never mind. I'm just glad to have access to it, at this point. Thanks again for your help, pugsy. (It was only when you asked what message I get that I realised I had to download it directly).

[Revived1]

Zonker, I thought I was a mouth breather too. That's why I chose a full face mask at first. It was only when my sleep doctor said it was probably because of my sleep apnea that I slept with my mouth open, i.e. trying to get more air, that I thought I'd try a nasal mask. When I tried it, I found that, with the apnea being treated, I didn't open my mouth when I slept any more.
I can imagine it would be tricky finding a mask when you have a full beard. That would surely add to the difficulty of finding one. My uncle has a beard, and just told me lately he is on CPAP, so I must ask him which mask he uses. Funny...A few months ago, I barely knew what a CPAP machine was. Now, I find them fascinating, esp. all the types of masks!
I love everything about my current mask except for the fact it blows air straight downwards, and even though it's not unbearable, it's a bit annoying. I'm going to make a little "shelf" or something like that to try to redirect the air. Not sure how I'm going to make it, but I'll give it a good go, anyway.

[Pugsy]

I think my results will be a bit garbled because I also have delayed sleep phase syndrome, so sometimes my sleep will go across midday, eg. 7am to 2pm, and Oscar will cut it at midday,

It's not so much OSCAR but your machine that is splitting the day at noon.
ResMed machines start a new sleep session or reporting period at 12 PM or Noon per the machine clock. OSCAR just reports what the machine records.
Now if you find this too annoying (and you do it often) you can change the machine clock so that it thinks Noon is a bit later and your reports won't look so wonky. Night workers who end up being day sleepers will do this so it makes for cleaner reports.

You can change the machine clock if you want to. Just be careful...don't do like I did and accidentally also change the calendar date and make a big mess.

https://www.respshop.com/manuals/ResMed ... %20her.pdf

[joeljjk11]

Different mask types can require different pressures. A FFM requires more pressure than a nasal pillow for example. Just something to consider.

[zonker]

Funny...A few months ago, I barely knew what a CPAP machine was. Now, I find them fascinating, esp. all the types of masks!

yeah, no kidding. some people get into so much that they start "preaching" to their family and friends, trying to get THE into the fold as well!

[Revived1]

I think my results will be a bit garbled because I also have delayed sleep phase syndrome, so sometimes my sleep will go across midday, eg. 7am to 2pm, and Oscar will cut it at midday,

It's not so much OSCAR but your machine that is splitting the day at noon.
ResMed machines start a new sleep session or reporting period at 12 PM or Noon per the machine clock. OSCAR just reports what the machine records.
Now if you find this too annoying (and you do it often) you can change the machine clock so that it thinks Noon is a bit later and your reports won't look so wonky. Night workers who end up being day sleepers will do this so it makes for cleaner reports.

You can change the machine clock if you want to. Just be careful...don't do like I did and accidentally also change the calendar date and make a big mess.

https://www.respshop.com/manuals/ResMed ... %20her.pdf

Thanks for the info., Pugsy. I understand what you say about the machine, and not Oscar, starting a new reporting period at midday. I'll see how I go, and change it if my sleeping pattern ever becomes regular...even regularly late. I'm still learning what sleep disorder/s I've got, but I've always taken a lot of sleeping medication to help me try to go to sleep at the same time each night, or more usually, at about 2 each morning. Now that I have a sleep doctor, I asked him what sort of med. he recommends for sleeping, and he said, "None". I do understand, though, even thought I'd rather have more regular sleeping hours. Now that I'm taking no sleeping med., I'm learning fully what sort of sleep disorders I have. He's said I have the one that I mentioned above, and he thinks I'm a non-24 hour sleeper, so that if I let my natural sleep-times kick in, I'll go to sleep about half an hour later each night, and end up sleeping all day, eventually, and then go through the whole thing again. Gawd, what a pain. I'm at the stage now where I'm sleeping about 6am to 2pm, but in a few days time, I imagine it will be 8am to 4pm, and so on. I had a good look at my Oscar graphs, and they certainly are dissected. Never mind. You know what? I was so excited yesterday to have access to my Oscar charts that I was going to post them on here, but then I realised people really only post them on here when they need help with something! I think I was just going to share them for the sake of it because I was so excited to have them, but now I've had time to contemplate people don't just post them for the sake of it, I'll wait until I have something really worth posting, i.e. post them at a time when I need some help with something, and not just post them because I'm excited to have them!
If I do change my machine, I'll make sure not to change my calendar date like you accidentally did. It sounds like something I would do, though. I'll probably be on here some day asking the question, "How do you fix a Resmed when you muck up the calendar date?"
Thanks again for your help.

[Revived1]

Different mask types can require different pressures. A FFM requires more pressure than a nasal pillow for example. Just something to consider.

Good point, Joel. I certainly felt there was a lot more pressure coming through the FFM I had than the nasal one I have now....especially when I was having leaks at high pressures! I'm so glad I found the nasal mask I have now.

[Revived1]

Funny...A few months ago, I barely knew what a CPAP machine was. Now, I find them fascinating, esp. all the types of masks!

yeah, no kidding. some people get into so much that they start "preaching" to their family and friends, trying to get THE into the fold as well!

Zonker. I don't think any of my family or friends will be coming into the fold. I told my ex-husband about the whole CPAP thing, (we're still good friends), and he said, "Oh my God. If I ever need to go on anything like that, I'll throw myself off a cliff.", or words to that effect. I don't think there's going to be any convincing him to try it. He used to snore like a chainsaw when we were together, but apparently he doesn't snore any more, and says he wakes up fresh as a daisy every day, so hopefully he won't need CPAP anyway.