Covid-19 CPAP Heated Tubing Temp

[Goofproof]

I didn't have to register as a Doctor in my Avatar, But I've seen them played on T.V.! Jim

Doctor House, "Everyone Lies!"

[Lifeisabeach]

Imagine, if you had testicles, you would also know that there temperature is much lower than your core body temp.

LOL, whut? Did you seriously just come in here and mansplain this to everyone?

[colomom]

Imagine, if you had testicles, you would also know that there temperature is much lower than your core body temp.

LOL, whut? Did you seriously just come in here and mansplain this to everyone?

Going out on a limb, but the posters reference to testicles made no sense in the comment. My guess is it was likely a combination of autocorrect and posting while sick with fever rather than “mansplaining”.

There actually is some science that backs the OP’s thinking, it does seem that Covid 19 really thrives in certain temperatures. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... id=3550308
An important point is that the evidence doesn’t seem to say that it doesn’t also spread in hot/ humid climates, it simply points out that certain temps/ humidities may result in greater spread.

To the OP,
Be aware that your CPAP can vent the virus into the bedroom, so hopefully your significant other is able to sleep in another room. I don’t know if turning up the hose temp could help, but if it makes you feel better it probably doesn’t hurt. Hang in there, hope you are on the mend!

[palerider]

It’s too bad there are a few people on this forum that don’t have medical knowledge and are quick to shoot down ideas that are plausible. If you knew anything about the human body, you would know that the temperature in the sinus cavity and bronchi to the lungs is much lower than in your blood. Imagine, if you had testicles, you would also know that there temperature is much lower than your core body temp. So, with that maybe you can be less naive and willing to learn something. We’re all in this together and I hope you don’t treat all the people on this forum the same way you’re treating me.

Ah, I understand you were looking in the mirror and admonishing yourself. Heed your words well.

Oh, and trust me, Pugsy's balls are bigger than yours.

[palerider]

If you want to be respected as an expert, you might want to give your real name and credentials. And if you have proof that heated air beats the virus when a heated body doesn't, please feel free to post it. I suspect that the East coast with major areas of problem also have higher population density.

A wise person once said that when someone on the internet leads off with their credentials ("DrBozo") they're almost certainly a goof..

[Lifeisabeach]

Imagine, if you had testicles, you would also know that there temperature is much lower than your core body temp.

LOL, whut? Did you seriously just come in here and mansplain this to everyone?

Going out on a limb, but the posters reference to testicles made no sense in the comment. My guess is it was likely a combination of autocorrect and posting while sick with fever rather than “mansplaining”.

There actually is some science that backs the OP’s thinking, it does seem that Covid 19 really thrives in certain temperatures. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... id=3550308
An important point is that the evidence doesn’t seem to say that it doesn’t also spread in hot/ humid climates, it simply points out that certain temps/ humidities may result in greater spread.

First of all, that science you refer to is more about the spread of the virus in the climate. He already has the virus in him. You can't apply "that" science to your own insides. That's junk medicine.

However, as a corollary to this, there is an increasing acceptance that fevers shouldn't treated as something that should be, well, treated, unless they get dangerously high. In other words, fevers are the body's response to kill viruses, so they say to avoid taking fever reducers unless you reach 103° F (adults). However, that said, raising the temperature and humidity of the air coming in through your nose isn't going to impact the viruses already in your body one lickity bit. This is akin to people claiming they can treat their infection by using hair dryers. It's nonsense. He's practicing armchair medicine and trying to lecture people here on what's plausible or not plausible and on what we know or don't know about human physiology. Hell, he's asking his doctor for medication based on overhyped reporting. Geezus.

[chunkyfrog]

Take your meds.
Get as comfortable as you can.
Stay away from people, but phone the people you care about.
It's OK to touch your face--the damage is already done.
Most important of all: STOP watching the "news".
The "facts" change every day--nobody can keep up.

[Goofproof]

Most important of all: STOP watching the "news".
The "facts" change every day--nobody can keep up.

What they are saying as Facts, are mostly Guesses, or outright Falsehoods put out in the effort to change the way we react to the situation we find ourselves in We need to ask ourselves what is the needs of the source of the news, and who gains $$$ from it and why. Then judge is it makes sense or is true. Most people see or hear something, and automatically accept it as true, (And Pass it on as such), nowadays especially if it's repeated over and over.

When you have no answer, what you here enough becomes Truth, not Really. Truth isn't that easy! Jim

[zonker]

If you want to be respected as an expert, you might want to give your real name and credentials. And if you have proof that heated air beats the virus when a heated body doesn't, please feel free to post it. I suspect that the East coast with major areas of problem also have higher population density.

profile says chiropractor.

[zonker]

We’re all in this together and I hope you don’t treat all the people on this forum the same way you’re treating me.

can't speak for others, but as for me, yes i do. when someone comes in shouting the odds and telling me how i'm supposed to respond, that annoys me. you don't get to come into my house and set the parameters for a discussion. and anytime anyone does that, i will speak out as i did in my response to your "i don't wanna debate this" nonsense.

now, if you want to keep an open mind and discuss things here regarding cpap, then please pull up a chair and let's talk.

if you are just going to dictate terms, please find another forum in which to do so.

apneaboard is that way==============>

[chunkyfrog]

" . . . chiropracter . . . "
In high school, I knew a family whose son was studying to be a chiropractor.
He had to repeat a MARKETING class.
I thought that was odd, but I tucked it away.
Years later, my husband was sent to a chiro for back pain as a result of an industrial accident.
They had an insane level of high pressure sales materials--
and aggressively pitched us for ongoing "treatment" --whether we needed it or not.
A couple deaths in our town were attributed to some morons going to a chiropractor
instead of a "regular" doctor.
Chiropracters scare the crap out of me--I'd feel safer with a Navajo medicine man.

[palerider]

If you want to be respected as an expert, you might want to give your real name and credentials. And if you have proof that heated air beats the virus when a heated body doesn't, please feel free to post it. I suspect that the East coast with major areas of problem also have higher population density.

profile says chiropractor.

Well spotted, and that says so much.

[TropicalDiver]

There has been a lot of recent articles about the temp Covid 19 flourishes. 50-80 deg Fahrenheit. I just turned up my Resmed S10 to 86 degrees last night. I’m on day 12 of dealing with the virus and sometimes feel it’ll never end. Using heat packs and hot bathes are great as well, but we have this setting on our machines that may make a world of difference. Any comments or suggestions are welcome since we’re all in this together!

My comments:
a) Whatever works for you (even if only a placebo effect) -- at worst there is no effect in this case.
b) I have seen no decent analysis that confirms any of what you are saying (inside a person). Do you know of any?
c) Lungs are already above 80. Please see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3980358

[roadcycler]

Just remember that this virus is associated with bats. During hibernation their core temp can go as low as 10 degrees C and can reach above 40 C during flight. The human body raises its temp (fever) to up to 40 C to try to kill the invasive organism. This virus is able to withstand an extreme temperature differential and that is part of the problem with the human body unable to deal with this virus under certain circumstances. The body also releases cytokines to aid in the eradication, but since the high temp (fever) does not necessary work it releases a cytokine storm that actually affects the body's own organs damaging them.

So by increasing the hose temp to 86 F ( 30 C ) in theory should not have any affect on the virus viability.

"6. Bats are considered as distinct from other heterotherms in that, at all seasons of the year, their resting temperature and metabolic rate is dependent on the ambient temperature. This also is due to their lack of thermoregulation. They are the only mammals in which the resting metabolism is a direct function of the body temperature, rather than of the ambient temperature. Nevertheless, when active, they can maintain body temperatures of 40° C. or above." Link https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/a ... alCode=bbl

Here is a link for cytokine storm https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.4886543

[zonker]

profile says chiropractor.

Well spotted, and that says so much.

<shrug> i'm not saying one way or the other. just that this is what he put in his profile.

make of it what you will.