OT: Quarantine supplies

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by colomom » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:52 pm

For those of you with asthma, now is the time to refill your script for your rescue inhaler if you might need a refill soon. No one of course should hoard meds, but if your rescue inhaler is getting low be aware that albuterol inhalers are starting to be in short supply.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by zonker » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:07 pm

gov jay inslee has issued a "stay at home" for the state. (he hates the term "shelter in place") this takes place 48 hours from now.

we are well stocked on the tissue front. still a few things we'd LIKE to get, but aren't essentials. i plan on going out tomorrow to get them as we will be out of these non essentials before two weeks is up. not really concerned that the stores will be out of what we want. more concerned to see how the general public reacts to this.

to reiterate, we have hand sanitizer in the car. but still there is the "ick" factor of standing next to people in check out lines.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by Lucyhere » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:04 pm

prodigyplace wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:49 pm

Jump into the shower?
Just don't understand the tp hysteria. Of course it's nice to have... but, in a situation like we are in and you don't have any, how about a nice warm shower with SOAP?! My brother-in-law was brought up not to use tp because it wasn't sanitary. He always got into a shower after. That always seemed strange to me. But, now it doesn't seem so strange. No way I'm going to stand in line for tp. Now, ice cream, that's another story... I'd stand in line for days (w/gloves and mask) for a gallon of chocolate chip ice cream.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by prodigyplace » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:22 am

Pugsy wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:28 am

My mom just called. She's out of TP and wanted me to bring her some. Sigh...I have 2 rolls myself.
Somebody on another forum found flushable wipes were available in stock.
I di not think they are good for a septic system though.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by Dog Slobber » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:45 am

prodigyplace wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:22 am
Pugsy wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:28 am

My mom just called. She's out of TP and wanted me to bring her some. Sigh...I have 2 rolls myself.
Somebody on another forum found flushable wipes were available in stock.
I di not think they are good for a septic system though.
They are also terrible for plumbing systems because they are so slow to break down.

I installed a seat attached Bidet. Very inexpensive and easy to install. Wasn't sure how I would feel about it, turns out I like them. I especially like using it when reading D.H.'s posts, makes me feel cleaner.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by Pugsy » Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:04 am

prodigyplace wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:22 am
Pugsy wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:28 am

My mom just called. She's out of TP and wanted me to bring her some. Sigh...I have 2 rolls myself.
Somebody on another forum found flushable wipes were available in stock.
I di not think they are good for a septic system though.
I wouldn't risk flushable products of any kind...septic which I am on or the in town sewer that my mom is on. She has enough drainage issues in that old house without adding in another potential plug.

We only have one store in the little town that I shop in. WalMart and the closest other WalMart or another grocery store (and it is teeny tiny) is a 30 minute drive one way and there's no guarantee that it will have products that my local WalMart doesn't have. If I absolutely need something critically then I will start driving around but if I find something that will work then that's what I will get.

No hand wipes or flushable (I wouldn't flush them though even if they said it was okay) wipes were available yesterday and no TP but I was able to get some cheap generic napkins and a box of facial tissues. They will do for now.
The bidet thing...while interesting not practical in my situation. My mom has to use a bed side commode. She's not able to walk to the bathroom.
She can put the soiled paper product in a plastic bag and the body waste can be flushed down the toilet after she does her business.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by prodigyplace » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:40 am

Pugsy wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:04 am

We only have one store in the little town that I shop in. WalMart and the closest other WalMart or another grocery store (and it is teeny tiny) is a 30 minute drive one way and there's no guarantee that it will have products that my local WalMart doesn't have. If I absolutely need something critically then I will start driving around but if I find something that will work then that's what I will get.
If you order at least $30 do those Walmart stores offer order pickup? Might save some driving around.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by Pugsy » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:17 am

prodigyplace wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:40 am
If you order at least $30 do those Walmart stores offer order pickup? Might save some driving around.
To be honest I don't know. Remember where I live....the next closest WalMart to me is in a town about 2K people bigger than the town I am in.
Probably if I drove into Springfield those WalMarts might offer curbside pick up but I haven't seen anything at the WalMarts here near me that makes me think they offer it.
Springfield is my next largest town and about an hour's drive to the closest one in Springfield.
At this point.... I am good for the most part and there is no urgent need to make the drive and most likely their shelves are depleted as well....a lot more people in Springfield and the surrounding area to be needing the same stuff that I need. Yes a bigger store but also drawing from a larger block of population to be sucking up products.

So far I haven't needed to do any more driving than the 5 miles into town. I don't have flour yet but it isn't critical that I have flour.

I will modify my way of doing things if I have to but right now there is no urgent need. Unless I just have to go anywhere...I am staying at home. When I do have to go like yesterday to find something for my mom...I will get a few extras of stuff to have on hand so I can go longer between this visit to town and the next one. It's why I also got other food supplies yesterday for my mom. Keep my niece from having to into their WalMart.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by prodigyplace » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:09 pm

Good! Just keep safe.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by Midwest_non_sleeper » Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:41 pm

Update:

Daughter and I successfully made it through quarantine just fine. At around day five, she lost all sense of smell, and consequently, loss of taste. Three days later, and I lost my own sense of smell and taste. It took around five days for hers to return to relative normal, while mine lasted a few days until normalcy.

Come to find out, one of the symptoms for Covid-19 seems to be a lost of sense of smell (which actually causes the sensation of a loss of taste, though you don't really lose your taste, it's just that your sense of smell is so intrinsically intertwined with taste...). We are both fine and have no other symptoms whatsoever. I was taking both of our temperature twice daily and being very meticulous with cleaning and disinfecting. I actually wore nitrile gloves and a P100 respirator anytime I had to go in her room to take her temperature, etc (yes, I have P100 respirators...doesn't everyone? No wonder my wife calls me a "prepper". In reality, I have had to respond to more than one community chemical leak / accident in my line of work, and I typically now carry respirators pretty much everywhere. They're also great for autopsies, of which I have been to...well, many.)

I will never know if we had it, as we will likely never get an antibody test, I just find the coincidence of both of us losing our sense of smell near the same time as...well, highly coincidental - and I'm not sure that I believe in coincidences quite that much.

So, if you suddenly lose your sense of smell, pay attention to that, because it could be a sign. Don't panic, just pay attention.

I hope everyone is doing well in this highly anxious and charged time. Keep a clear head and reason your way through things. Everything will turn out ok. With all that said, be mindful that you may experience disaster. I'm of the mind that before this is through, just about all of us will know someone, or know of someone that was lost to this. Brace for that.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by Pugsy » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:05 pm

Midwest_non_sleeper wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:41 pm
I will never know if we had it, as we will likely never get an antibody test
You might rethink that thought a bit later. Might be nice to know if you are immune to it when/if it comes around a second time this fall.

My husband and I attended an awards dinner Feb 27....wife of the president of the company set next to us and talked about how sick she had been lately. Didn't think too much about it at the time...then on March 29 my husband and I came down with something...
Fever, cough, extreme fatigue, minor sore throat. The cough was horrible....kicked our butts and it was a full week before we felt half way decent and another week until we were pretty much 100%.
I don't know what we had....we were too sick to go anywhere to spread it though...
It might have just been some other bug but I plan to get the antibody test to know for sure because of my mom...she's 87 and it would kill her if she got it. She's extremely frail.
If I had it...I will likely be immune to it for at least some time interval...they will eventually figure out time limit or not on immunity.
I want to know just in case this thing resurfaces this coming fall or winter so that I can better care for my mom without risking giving it to her should I maybe not have had it and catch it and be one of those people who are asymptomatic and still transmits it.

I know...a lot of maybes and ifs but when it comes to my mom....no amount of extra precaution is too much.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by Pugsy » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:46 pm

Good news....I finally got some flour. :lol: :lol: The hoarders didn't know about a little Amish store in the next town over...they had flour....they take the big bags and repackage it into 5 lb bags.
While there I got some home made oatmeal raisin cookies....OMG they were to die for good. Missed out on their donuts though.

And I think I already reported I found some alcohol....and one kind forum member send me some purell wipes which are essentially alcohol. I just found them in my mail box this morning. I need to go thank him.

We are all doing okay...my sister stumbled on toilet paper for my mom as she happened by a Dollar General store when the delivery truck was there and there was a delivery of TP. I have enough to get by for a little while longer and it helps when you know someone...the young man who found me some alcohol at my local feed store told me yesterday that they ordered some TP and it will be in this week and he is going to set some aside for me. :lol:

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by Midwest_non_sleeper » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:49 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:05 pm
Midwest_non_sleeper wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:41 pm
I will never know if we had it, as we will likely never get an antibody test
You might rethink that thought a bit later. Might be nice to know if you are immune to it when/if it comes around a second time this fall.

My husband and I attended an awards dinner Feb 27....wife of the president of the company set next to us and talked about how sick she had been lately. Didn't think too much about it at the time...then on March 29 my husband and I came down with something...
Fever, cough, extreme fatigue, minor sore throat. The cough was horrible....kicked our butts and it was a full week before we felt half way decent and another week until we were pretty much 100%.
I don't know what we had....we were too sick to go anywhere to spread it though...
It might have just been some other bug but I plan to get the antibody test to know for sure because of my mom...she's 87 and it would kill her if she got it. She's extremely frail.
If I had it...I will likely be immune to it for at least some time interval...they will eventually figure out time limit or not on immunity.
I want to know just in case this thing resurfaces this coming fall or winter so that I can better care for my mom without risking giving it to her should I maybe not have had it and catch it and be one of those people who are asymptomatic and still transmits it.

I know...a lot of maybes and ifs but when it comes to my mom....no amount of extra precaution is too much.
Pugsy, you misunderstand. I didn't say that because I choose not to get us tested, I say that simply because we do not fit the criteria to be tested.

If we are offered an antibody test at some point in the future, I will surely jump at the chance, because like you, I would rather know if I have antibodies against it or not. That's very valuable information to know.

On a sidenote, regarding the immunity question: A test was conducted with Rhesus monkeys. The scientists infected several monkeys with Covid-19, and kept another group as an uninfected control group. The infected monkeys got sick, exhibited all of the symptoms that humans seem to suffer, and then got better. They then infected ALL of the monkeys, including the original infected monkeys as well as the control group. The previously infected monkeys did get reinfected, however, it only manifested as a very brief rise in temperature that quickly broke and they exhibited no other symptoms. Meanwhile, the control group got very sick. A month later, all of the monkeys tested positive for antibodies against Covid-19.

This test lends credibility to the idea that Covid-19 acts similar to any other virus when it comes to human immunity, your body will very likely develop antibodies that will provide some level of protection from a subsequent infection. This does not, of course, mean that a different mutated strain could not cause havoc though.

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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by zonker » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:51 pm

Midwest_non_sleeper wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:49 pm


On a sidenote, regarding the immunity question: A test was conducted with Rhesus monkeys. The scientists infected several monkeys with Covid-19, and kept another group as an uninfected control group. The infected monkeys got sick, exhibited all of the symptoms that humans seem to suffer, and then got better. They then infected ALL of the monkeys, including the original infected monkeys as well as the control group. The previously infected monkeys did get reinfected, however, it only manifested as a very brief rise in temperature that quickly broke and they exhibited no other symptoms. Meanwhile, the control group got very sick. A month later, all of the monkeys tested positive for antibodies against Covid-19.

This test lends credibility to the idea that Covid-19 acts similar to any other virus when it comes to human immunity, your body will very likely develop antibodies that will provide some level of protection from a subsequent infection. This does not, of course, mean that a different mutated strain could not cause havoc though.
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Re: OT: Quarantine supplies

Post by Pugsy » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:59 pm

Midwest_non_sleeper wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:49 pm
Pugsy, you misunderstand. I didn't say that because I choose not to get us tested, I say that simply because we do not fit the criteria to be tested.
Sorry, I did misunderstand. I thought you were referring to the antibody test and not the current diagnostic test to see if you have it or not.
Even if my illness hadn't happened in late Feb when there was no testing at all...and it happened today...I wouldn't meet criteria to get a test as it stands right now. I wasn't sick enough and hadn't been around anyone I knew who had it.

It won't be long though before a lot more people like us who weren't sick enough can get tested though...and just watch the number of positives sky rocket when that testing becomes available.
Right now too many really sick people and not enough test kits available but eventually that will change as far as testing capabilities catch up to need.

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