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Muse-Inc · Post by **Muse-Inc** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:31 pm

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/3d-face- ... 7DxQgRy6Jg

roadcycler · Post by **roadcycler** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:41 pm

Well that sounds about right. My sleep doctor told me that as soon as I walked into the office she knew I had sleep apnea just by looking at me before reviewing my overnight sleep results.

D.H. · Post by **D.H.** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:44 pm

The CPAP machine was invented in Australia in 1980. The first CPAP patient (who they were afraid would die during the test because he was so ill) lived on CPAP for 34 years, dying of cancer not known to be related to this sleep problems.

The overnight sleep test was developed around the same time. THe paradigm was based on the notion that Sleep Apnea was a vary rare disease, and not too many patients would need this test. The demand for the test skyrocketed when it because apparent how common Sleep Apnea was.

D.H. · Post by **D.H.** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:49 pm

roadcycler wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:41 pm
Well that sounds about right. My sleep doctor told me that as soon as I walked into the office she knew I had sleep apnea just by looking at me before reviewing my overnight sleep results.

My sleep doctor looked at my medical history, my answers to the questionnaire, and he examined me. Based on that he said that he was sure that I had Sleep Apnea and I had it "severely" (his word). He also said that if CPAP did not work (or I could not tolerate it) that I would need surgery. Fortunately, it worked. That was in 1999.

LSAT · Post by **LSAT** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:51 pm

roadcycler wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:41 pm
Well that sounds about right. My sleep doctor told me that as soon as I walked into the office she knew I had sleep apnea just by looking at me before reviewing my overnight sleep results.

She saw you coming and also saw $$$$$$$$$$$$$

zoocrewphoto · Post by **zoocrewphoto** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:54 pm

roadcycler wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:41 pm
Well that sounds about right. My sleep doctor told me that as soon as I walked into the office she knew I had sleep apnea just by looking at me before reviewing my overnight sleep results.

When the tech was getting me ready for the sleep study, she said that I did have the classic physical anatomy for sleep apnea. Small chin, scalloped tongue, etc.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:54 pm

LSAT wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:51 pm

roadcycler wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:41 pm
Well that sounds about right. My sleep doctor told me that as soon as I walked into the office she knew I had sleep apnea just by looking at me before reviewing my overnight sleep results.
She saw you coming and also saw $$$$$$$$$$$$$

He walked in and she saw new brakes and radial tires for her Mercedes.

Jim

kteague · Post by **kteague** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:30 pm

The details of that would be interesting to see, to know the specifics of the anatomic commonalities sleep apnea sufferers share. When I was new here there were a couple members who had narrow airways and they posted their x-rays - I could ooo and aah over that stuff all day.

Hope the studiers then give attention to the outliers and exactly what makes their cases different and how to keep them from slipping through the cracks. Seems this tool will be of more rule-in than rule-out value. Thanks for sharing.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:09 pm

Now that they are using 3d tech, how about using it to match masks
with the people they are most likely to FIT?
AND DO IT CROSS-PLATFORM--as a service, instead of a sales tool.
Too many people are intimidated by a hopeless, costly quest for a mask that
DOES NOT HURT,
and give up on cpap.

Arlene1963 · Post by **Arlene1963** » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:35 am

Here's a link to the study published in The Journal of Clinical Sleep Medicine.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... hotography

Interesting research.

roadcycler · Post by **roadcycler** » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:56 am

She saw you coming and also saw $$$$$$$$$$$$$
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He walked in and she saw new brakes and radial tires for her Mercedes.

Jim
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Boy are you wrong. She drives a Ferrari

Actually here in Canada the sleep doc and the suppliers are not affiliated I was allowed to choose between any provider in our town. ( They all had the exact same price double or triple the online price ) but my medical will not reimburse me if I do buy online

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:25 am

roadcycler wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:56 am
She saw you coming and also saw $$$$$$$$$$$$$

He walked in and she saw new brakes and radial tires for her Mercedes.

Jim
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Boy are you wrong. She drives a Ferrari

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In that case she will need jack stands and blocks, it's going to take more than one sucker, to pay her repair bill. Before you get a new doctor, check the parking lot, see what they are driving, Hope for a Pinto!

Jim

babydinosnoreless · Post by **babydinosnoreless** » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:55 am

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:09 pm
Now that they are using 3d tech, how about using it to match masks
with the people they are most likely to FIT?
AND DO IT CROSS-PLATFORM--as a service, instead of a sales tool.
Too many people are intimidated by a hopeless, costly quest for a mask that
DOES NOT HURT,
and give up on cpap.

+1

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