Prevalence of "Moderate-to-Severe OSA" in the 40-85-Yrs. General Population

[esel]

odd increase of cancers, allergies, immune diseases… in people under the age of reproduction
Just to be fair.

So, he is obligated to provide multiple legitimate sources?

Sorry for my fast replies... And yes, I wish you could be right.

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https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news ... -children/

I wish I could understand the graph you posted. How do they age adjusted the data ?

[ChicagoGranny]

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news ... -children/

That is an activist/alarmist group, and the article provides no citations that show childhood cancer (CC) rates are increasing. The citation they provide from the CDC is a discussion of CCs from 2013 to 2014. The discussion is focused on geographic variability in CC rates. There is no discussion or data presented about the changes in rates over the time period.

If you read activist/alarmist blogs, you are not getting the truth.

I wish I could understand the graph you posted. How do they age adjusted the data ?

In brief, if a population is living longer and not dying from heart disease and pneumonia, that population will have more cancer deaths. (You have to die of something.)

Since this seems to be a totally new topic to you, here is a description of age-adjusted death rates - https://health.mo.gov/data/mica/CDP_MICA/AARate.html

[jnk...]

A 2016 explanation of overall cancer statistics for the U.S. by the CDC:

https://youtu.be/MJp4IfboItw?t=118

On the other hand, I believe the statistics originally mentioned were about incidence increases in specific younger age groups. That is a beaten horse of a different color. In the UK, for example:

European age-standardised (AS) incidence rates for cancers in young people males and females combined increased by 33% in the UK between 1993-1995 and 2013-2015. Over the last decade in the UK (between 2003-2005 and 2013-2015), AS incidence rates for cancers in young people males and females combined increased by 15%. In males AS incidence rates remained stable, and in females rates increased by 25%. -- https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health ... eading-Two

I am by NO means anything near an expert on such matters. But I believe that it may be that if certain cancers are being caught at an earlier age, that will tend to throw off age-specific incidence rates in any given population. The trick may be in how widely or specifically one frames the question. That can lead to people talking past one another on such matters during statistics wars. Especially when one party wants to prove that progress is being made and another party wants to prove there is still much to be accomplished and wants to make that point by showing things are getting worse even as things are getting better. Or something like that.

The way it usually works is that one decides what point to make before one finds a way to frame available data to make that point.

Maybe that will happen less once humans are taken completely out of the science picture in the future and robots take control of all health questions.

[esel]

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news ... -children/

If you read activist/alarmist blogs, you are not getting the truth.

OK, you nailed me there...

My favorite readings are DNA sequences.
You don't need to read too much between the lines.

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Interesting in these sequences is the finding that grapes can have 2 to 4 different loci. Grapes are 2n (two set of chromosomes in each cell) but, like some other plants have two distinct cell layers. By cloning the plant, you keep mutations in one or the other cell layer. If the plant is propagated through the seed only the genetic content of cells from layer 2 are passed on to the next generation. Humans figured this out ~2000 years ago, the age of some grape clones growing today, as the quality and taste of the wine was lost in seed plants and kept in clones.

Since this seems to be a totally new topic to you, here is a description of age-adjusted death rates - https://health.mo.gov/data/mica/CDP_MICA/AARate.html

Thanks and yes this is a totally new topic to me. Do I need to adjust my age or does it mean that I should be dead by now My brain is full...

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I am still not able to understand your figure. How can a single (age adjusted) value per year, differentiate cancer incidences in children over time?

[ChicagoGranny]

Interesting in these sequences is the finding that grapes can have 2 to 4 different loci. Grapes are 2n (two set of chromosomes in each cell) but, like some other plants have two distinct cell layers. By cloning the plant, you keep mutations in one or the other cell layer. If the plant is propagated through the seed only the genetic content of cells from layer 2 are passed on to the next generation. Humans figured this out ~2000 years ago, the age of some grape clones growing today, as the quality and taste of the wine was lost in seed plants and kept in clones.

Are you a plant biologist? It's a fascinating field of endeavor.

[esel]

Are you a plant biologist? It's a fascinating field of endeavor.

Yes, it just happened that there was no way I would have become a mechanical engineer (like dad or my two brothers) nor become a math freak like mom... The food never tasted right having only math problems to discuss at the table.
They even gave me a PhD (for symbiotic bacteria fixing nitrogen in soybeans). But don't tell anyone I know now what people think of them.

[ChicagoGranny]

Dr. Esel!

You can't even write a prescription for 800 mg Symbiotic Bacteria!

[jnk...]

We love most all PhDs. And some Professors. Even an MD or two here and there. Heck, I even love soybeans.

I mean, as long as they've all spent enough time in a pressure cooker.

[ChicagoGranny]

soybeans

In my farming forum last night, farmers were telling dumb things they have done.

Left the clean out door open on bottom of combine, was scratching my head thinking these beans sure looked better than this!!!

[esel]

Dr. Esel!

You can't even write a prescription for 800 mg Symbiotic Bacteria!

Don't need to! You are eating some every day.
Now that you know you eat them, you still need to become a legume to synthesize the Leghemoglobin (quite similar to your hemoglobin) to bind and transport the oxygen (O2). This horribly oxidizing molecule needs to be kept away from the bacteria in order for them to fix Nitrogen.

Since this seems to be a totally new topic to you, here is a description of age-adjusted death rates - https://health.mo.gov/data/mica/CDP_MICA/AARate.html

by the way, could it be that the CPAPer community (now a longer living population) is screwing up the statistics of age-adjusted 2000 US standard population published in 1998 ??? Just a thought as that adjustment was used to provide your figure ?

"1940 and 2000 U.S. standard populations acquired from:
Anderson RN, Rosenberg HM. Age Standardization of Death Rates: Implementation of the Year 2000 Standard. National Vital Statistics Reports; Vol. 47 No. 3. Hyattsville, Maryland: National Center for Health Statistics. 1998."

[ChicagoGranny]

by the way, could it be that the CPAPer community (now a longer living population) is screwing up the statistics of age-adjusted 2000 US standard population published in 1998 ???

Probably. Gramps has been using CPAP for 25+ years. He says without it, he would have been dead years ago.

Now that you know you eat them, you still need to become a legume to synthesize the Leghemoglobin (quite similar to your hemoglobin) to bind and transport the oxygen (O2). This horribly oxidizing molecule needs to be kept away from the bacteria in order for them to fix Nitrogen.

Are you doing things to help fix CO2 in the soil?

[esel]

Are you doing things to help fix CO2 in the soil?

nop, only on my head...

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But I can tell you right now it does not work cannot put my FF mask on

[ChicagoGranny]

But I can tell you right now it does not work cannot put my FF mask on

Let me give you a trim, Handsome.