OT: constant cyber-harassment

[palerider]

Bullying is often exhibited by adolescents. We can hope that PR is actually a 13 old youth who will mature out of the difficult maturation stage that he or she is processing through. In the interim, ignoring his/her rants can be effective. Bully’s do not tend to persist if their behavior is not rewarded by recognition. The majority of the advice that PR offers, shows no great insight. He/she repeatedly tells people seeking help, to turn up their minimum, set the machine limit to wide open, and occasionally reduce pressure support.

Don't you just have to feel sorry for people like the above, whose existence is so miserable and pathetic that the only joy they have is to get on the internet and make snide, cutting remarks towards others?

All one has to do is look back through the posting history of that account.

They're not here looking for help, they're not here trying to help others... they're just here to deride and denigrate other people, presumably so they can feel they're better than some unknown person on the internet.

Sad.

[babydinosnoreless]

1. OT threads.......common knowledge that you participate at you own risk since the gloves are off.

Zonker said this thread is a, "duke it out thread", which I take to mean is, "gloves are off".

Which is it?

Zonker is not the moderator Pugsy is. I would go with what she says.

Btw the only posts I ever see you leave are bashing PR. I don't see you attempting to help others. Why is that ?

[nanwilson]

Zonker said this thread is a, "duke it out thread", which I take to mean is, "gloves are off".

Which is it?

Zonker is not the moderator Pugsy is. I would go with what she says.

Btw the only posts I ever see you leave are bashing PR. I don't see you attempting to help others. Why is that ?
[/quote]

Baby Dino, THAT is the truest statement (in red) that I saw today! BRAVO!!!!!!!!


And YES I have been here 10 years too Lucy, and all I ever see from you is the bashing of PR .... or me for that matter

Have a great day.. cheers
Nan

[Lucyhere]

I don't see you attempting to help others. Why is that ?

I don't feel comfortable in that role, altho it's good that some people do I guess. I manage my own therapy, not others. In the past, I've welcomed people, but that's Zonker's role now and he does it very nicely.

BTW... I was posting to Pugsy, not Zonker.

Anyway, have a nice weekend... it's a gorgeous day.

[Goofproof]

A person has a right to say what they think, (However wrong they may be), be we have the free will not to read the CRAP, maybe we would be better off choosing that option. Jim

"The Right to Remain Silent", is a good Right. However, it's not chosen enough.

[Goofproof]

A person has a right to say what they think, (However wrong they may be), be we have the free will not to read the CRAP, maybe we would be better off choosing that option. Jim

"The Right to Remain Silent", is a good Right. However, it's not chosen enough.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt..."

For some, Doubt is a Terrible Thing To Waste! Jim

[palerider]

Of course palerider will now explain, or more likely, try to get someone else to explain for him why "his comments weren't snide cutting remarks"...very, very SAD!!!

Not at all. I'm quite sure that others can understand the clear distinction between an account that has posted nothing helpful, ever, and someone who even you say has helped you. (Not that I'll be wasting my time on that again).

And yet palerider is supposed to be one of the "leaders" here on this forum!

You continue to exhibit failures to understand even the simplest of things. If anybody here feels I'm some sort of leader, then they themselves have chosen to view me in that manner. I am not, not have I ever been even remotely in any way shape or form a 'leader' here.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt..."

Do you realize what you just said?

[chunkyfrog]

Probably not.
(Croaks--snidely)

[zonker]

guys? our moderator has said in essence "knock it off or the thread gets locked".

can we knock it off, please?

thank you.

[babydinosnoreless]

edit:

OT threads.......common knowledge that you participate at you own risk since the gloves are off.
If you don’t like the atmosphere in OT threads.....don’t read them.
If you don’t want a bloody nose....don’t get in the middle of the fist swinging.
Yes, Johnny hopes that people willl grow up and play nice but he also knows he doesn’t always get what he hopes for.
Thus the OT Threads where the gloves are off.


All that said....mark started this thread and it seems to be derailing to a “let’s attack one person thread because of how he talks’.....that’s going off topic in an off topic thread and becoming a personal attack thread.
Knock it off or this thread will get locked. Fair warning.

Translation: We can all gang-up and beat the hell out of Jedimark (founder of our very own Sleepyhead), but once you start taking shots at palerider, game's over!!! - - If you want to beat-up Jedimark, it's fair game! - - If you touch the sensitive-palerider, game over!!! - Lock up the thread!!!

As a former moderator of many debate type conversations.
I see why pugsy jumped in. Jedimark opened himself up by starting the off topic thread. PR did not. If PR opened up a OT thread that said debate me then it would be ok. He didn't. You don't get to bash PR for stuff not pertaining to the original topic. The only thing you could bash PR for would be his comments to Jedi.

[jimbud]

. Case in point: Who would ever tell someone they spelled a word wrong or that "their grammar is lacking" on an internet forum?!?!

You got your panties in a bunch over that! Poor baby. Who needs a diaper change?

JPB

[Pugsy]

So does anyone have anything actually helpful to the OP in this thread????
Or is it now a discussion only about someone said something that someone else didn’t care for??? Either what they said it or how it was said?

News flash folks.....there’s more than one instance of attempted bullying IMHO going on in this thread by more than one offender.

Those of you who think you want to tell Johnny what to do in his sand box.....you are guilty too.

It’s okay for you to say how you feel but not someone else????? Sorry folks but whatever is good for the goose is good for the gander.
You can’t have it both ways.

IF YOU DON’T LIKE JOHNNY’S SANDBOX......GO FIND A SAND BOX YOU DO LIKE. Quit expecting him to change his rules. It’s not going to happen just because you don’t like someone or something the said or how they said it.

Or use the Foe button and save yourself a lot of aggravation. It’s not your job to to point out anyone else saying something you don’t like or agree with.

You guys have gone from attacking the message to attacking the messenger and that’s not acceptable.

[babydinosnoreless]

Edited to delete my post

[palerider]

I really don't need your wise words of wisdom

Well then, it's clear where we all stand.

Have a nice day.

[jnk...]

. . . anything actually helpful . . .

I'll try. But I'll probably fail.

Some of the people I learn most from are people with a very different code of conduct from mine. I try to set an example here as best I can, and then I try to let the rest of the chips on others' shoulders fall where they may. I will sometimes comment on behavior if I assume my comment is welcome and that it might be helpful and not inflammatory. After all, we all need reminders. Including me.

But my general rule of thumb is that if I look inside a thread that it turns out I really don't like, I close it. The thread. Not the forum. That is enough to help keep me from getting upset or upsetting others. Most of the time, anyway.

I usually find that if I'm personally attacked verbally in some way, virtually or in real life, replying will likely just draw more attention to the attack, not less. Adding fuel rarely stops that kind of fire. And walking away seems to help my reputation more than hurt it. Walking away takes more strength than throwing a verbal punch in kind. Observers know that.

Not having strict rules of behavior here may facilitate larger numbers of people being helped in the long run. But don't expect that to be pretty or pleasant all the time. No matter where you hang the air-freshener, the stink will always be discernible in the background in a "lightly-moderated" Internet forum. Just try to keep the smell from overwhelming Pugsy's threads when she's helping newbies. Please.

Life can be a very painful thing for many people, and when they feel like they have been backed into a corner, even if it's just because they've backed themselves into their own circumstance by their own behavior, their lashing out can feel to them like the right thing to do. I still try to be helpful to them from a distance when I judge that I can do so without endangering my own physical, mental, emotional, or spiritual health in the process.

But if any one of us believes Mark is in any sort of pain, why do things to increase that pain, if it is clear you are not in a position to help alleviate it? Just let him express it. If what he says feels like a personal attack to anyone, maybe the smart thing still is to step back, not toward, and thereby let one's own reputation be helped in doing so, as a favor to oneself and to the board.

Or not. It's the Internet. So people do what they want.