How to stop ResMed's report transmission

[OfftoNeverNeverland]

Themaskedman, you raise an excellent point. Putting aside your data being collected past the 90 day compliance, and who knows whether your usage afterwards may used by insurance to deny future claims such a heart condition worsened by sporadic use. There is a more subtle reason that some may not appreciate. The cellular modem sends location data that is stored along with your sleep data and that location data can tell someone where you likely slept on a particular night. This is like GPS location on your smart phone. So how can that be an issue some may post? Well, if you get into a divorce situation the attorney for the other party can subpoena that location CPAP data from resumed or PR and show that while on your "business trip" to Cleveland, your cpap broadcast data from Honolulu or some such place romantic. Or, if you filed an insurance claim or disability claim because your back is so damaged you cannot work etc yet your cpap cellular modem showed somebody with controlled OA had a nice week in a Disneyland hotel in Orlando over spring break. Any 5th amendment or other privilages or HIPAA protections do not apply when third parties hold your data and you may have done a crime like adultery (still a felony in many states and in the military) or may have committed insurance fraud. So the moral is to disconnect the resumed modem card internally or airplane mode it. If a respironics dreamstation, pull the modem out as airplane mode in that device reverts to transmission capable setting after 72 hours without telling you. Use your SD card only as it holds pap data but as it is not a cell phone modem itself, no location data is generated.

[palerider]

The cellular modem sends location data that is stored along with your sleep data and that location data can tell someone where you likely slept on a particular night.

This, by the way, folks is *PURELY* a *GUESS* with no substantiation whatsoever.

This is like GPS location on your smart phone.

Given that most phones these days have a gps receiver, *something the cpap *does not*, no, it's not like the GPS location on your phone.

So how can that be an issue some may post? Well, if you get into a divorce situation the attorney for the other party can subpoena that location CPAP data from resumed or PR and show that while on your "business trip" to Cleveland, your cpap broadcast data from Honolulu or some such place romantic. Or, if you filed an insurance claim or disability claim because your back is so damaged you cannot work etc yet your cpap cellular modem showed somebody with controlled OA had a nice week in a Disneyland hotel in Orlando over spring break.

Ridiculous.

[chunkyfrog]

I find other people's nuttiness very entertaining.
Enjoying kettle chips, seasoned with my favorite--dill pickle.

[palerider]

I find other people's nuttiness very entertaining.
Enjoying kettle chips, seasoned with my favorite--dill pickle.

I wonder how many people had to break out their epi-pens (hopefully generic version) while reading this thread.

[babydinosnoreless]

I find other people's nuttiness very entertaining.
Enjoying kettle chips, seasoned with my favorite--dill pickle.

I wonder how many people had to break out their epi-pens (hopefully generic version) while reading this thread.

Raising hand. This thread is giving me hives. in the last month my husband and daughter's SO have teamed up and stuck old nest and wyze camera's out front hooked up a nest thermostat and today installed smart switches on my lights and an alexa in my living room. Has anyone seen the SNL skit Alexa for Seniors ? Let me just say I don't know about all this tech stuff. Grumble.

It started out with a burned out light bulb and hey I have one of these cool smart ones you can try. Look its dimable.... today it was I have an extra echo (is that what the Alexa things are called? ) we can run the lights off of that so you don't have to get up to turn them on and off (hubby has had back issues). At least its keeping him busy and daughter significant other is really good about including him in the whole (which screw do you recomend to hang this.... etc making him feel included) still I'm just not sure about all this.

[metsfan302]

It may sound NUTS to some people, but I kind of agree with OfftoNeverNeverland.

I don't see why it could not be used against someone - if indeed it can show were it pinged towers etc etc..... could def be used by law enforcement if that were the case and if that apnea suffering criminal brought his machine along with him lol .... kind of like how smart watch data has been used against someone or ez pass etc

but then I look at the other side like pale is saying - how do we know such data exists

[babydinosnoreless]

It may sound NUTS to some people, but I kind of agree with OfftoNeverNeverland.

I don't see why it could not be used against someone - if indeed it can show were it pinged towers etc etc..... could def be used by law enforcement if that were the case and if that apnea suffering criminal brought his machine along with him lol .... kind of like how smart watch data has been used against someone or ez pass etc

but then I look at the other side like pale is saying - how do we know such data exists

Its all IMO invasion of privacy rights and we are just inviting stuff like this into our homes because its convenient and easy. Of course its also 1:30 am and I can't sleep so maybe I am just a sleep deprived parinoid old dinosaur.

[metsfan302]

lol right - its 4:47am here i was sleeping till oh about 3am - no clue why but I cant sleep an entire night without fragmented sleep ugg. Now I am replying to conspiracy theory threads etc

[babydinosnoreless]

lol right - its 4:47am here i was sleeping till oh about 3am - no clue why but I cant sleep an entire night without fragmented sleep ugg. Now I am replying to conspiracy theory threads etc

Yep. I know what you mean. Last night was terrible I slept less than 5 hours. My air app is going to send me emails today for sure.

[metsfan302]

Lol gotta love getting yelled at by an app now a days, I see you did get the proper amount of sleep..... no gold star for you

[babydinosnoreless]

Lol gotta love getting yelled at by an app now a days, I see you did get the proper amount of sleep..... no gold star for you

That stupid app yells at me all the time. Your mask is leaking to much, blah blah. In October, its my machine then I am deleting my air and going to airplane mode.

Well my ahi was 0.0 but thats probably because I was never really all the way asleep.

[Dog Slobber]

Lol gotta love getting yelled at by an app now a days, I see you did get the proper amount of sleep..... no gold star for you

That stupid app yells at me all the time. Your mask is leaking to much, blah blah. In October, its my machine then I am deleting my air and going to airplane mode.

To reduce or stop MyAir emails you can goto your MyAir profile, Notifications and then uncheck notifications you don't want to receive.

[babydinosnoreless]

Lol gotta love getting yelled at by an app now a days, I see you did get the proper amount of sleep..... no gold star for you

That stupid app yells at me all the time. Your mask is leaking to much, blah blah. In October, its my machine then I am deleting my air and going to airplane mode.

To reduce or stop MyAir emails you can goto your MyAir profile, Notifications and then uncheck notifications you don't want to receive.

Ooh thank you. I just turned it all off !

[OfftoNeverNeverland]

Palerider, I am going to have to start charging you tuition. Any time any form of cellular modem (CPAP type or let's say even a cellular flood water meter sitting on a sluice gate on a lake far far way) is used the way it was engineered, the computer logs in that signal (a form of serial number software code) and that activity is called by IT guys, as "the hand-off." That hand-off data is stored and that cell tower unit (could be a repeater on top of a local water tower) is a known landmark with known Lat./Long. coordinates. Now with time/distance calculations done by the software itself, the location of that cpap signal is easily triangulated (calculated) and is logged and stored. Why? Because the computer needs to estimate the next hand-off to the next nearest tower/repeater so your calls are not interrupted as you drive around chatting with your friends. Unknown by me if resumed or PR people get location data besides PAP data, but no matter, as that location data is stored forever. And yes my friend, the location feature on your smart phone works the same way if it is a cellular phone as it is a time/distance calculation done by the timing of RF (radio) signals that emanate from your cell phone (like a walkie talkie) to a tower/repeater and back again that are recognized and logged in--that is how a cell phone works. Check your location history of your smart phone on your google account if you have google maps installed and location-on and you can see where your phone has been all over the USA throughout its history provided your phone was on and pinging towers (about every 15 minutes usually) as you moved around. Satellite phones work differently as they commonly only transmit up to geosynchronous satellites (see Iridium) and your location is triangulated that way rather than triangulated by ground repeaters like your smart phone. Your common smart phone "GPS" location is not working if your phone is out of cell tower/repeater range.

The point you are missing about CPAPs is that unlike other devices, these new-fangled CPAPS with cellular modems embedded in them are a fairly new feature and work automatically behind the scenes without user input (the CPAP calls out every day before local noon time in most models). You do not even know it DID that as a typical user (most of us CPAP people are older and "playing the back-nine" so to speak) so this CPAP world is a new challenge. We all know our phones, computers, ipads, phones, cable TVs, are logged into a network and that time, tracking/location data is kept. You can plan for that and leave your phones, computers, ipads turned off or left behind if you want/need to. The difference my friend is that few users appreciate that their CPAP (depending on model) has an automatic cell phone feature embedded inside that transmits and receives data without them knowing about it! It doesn't stop after T-minus 90 days compliance. Any attorney or police agency can get your CPAP LOCATION data by subpoena if it were to become legally relevant (perhaps you are a Silver-Alert elderly person who failed to return home and may need medical attention (you know how adult children can worry); all it takes is for Grandpa to use his CPAP w/ modem the night after a one-armed bandit frolic at the Golden Nugget in Vegas and Grandpa is found the next day! So wake up (after a low or 0.0 AHI evening) and smell the coffee!

[metsfan302]

Knight, Your avatars are epic, thank you